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[XTR3M3]

For those of you who feel like trolling, know that I will not even respond to your posts. If this is not your thing, move on. I really don't care about "how this isn't right". Ashley is the hottest NPC in the game....with EDI being a close second....so I think both male Shep and fem Shep should be able to "partake in the lady that put the yum back in Williams".

I am currently testing a playthrough now. It seems to work just fine exept for some of the VO lines weren't recorded due to Ashley being designed as a male Shep romance only. Those just get lip sync'd to the subtitiled text. Most of the VO lines do work as it seems there wasn't a whole lot not VO'd by fem Shep actress.  I am about half way through but all is working good so far. I will edit this post after I "seal the deal" with Ashley and my fem Shep and see if the cutscene works. At that point, I will post how I did it. If it doesn't work, there would be no point in posting it. This works from the beginning of the game btw. No crashes as of yet as well.

for those of you who wanted this, keep your fingers crossed.

Modifié par XTR3M3, 11 mars 2012 - 03:15 .

[XTR3M3]

ack....I think I screwed up the presidium meeting with her...ugh! either the scripts didn't fire or me fast forwarding through dialogue to get to the "hook up" faster came back to bite me in the rear....ugh....or hooking up with Traynor first might have screwed that up seeing as I got her cutscene. I thought you could do that and be OK still.....crap.....don't have a save in the right place so hours of gameplay wasted.....

Modifié par XTR3M3, 11 mars 2012 - 10:38 .

[SierraGHOSTN7]

For me everything did work till the conversation with Ash in the hospital.
I rushed through the game, so I may have missed something... nah.
Please, try try try again! I'm curious now.
I'll be trying this too, but I want to replay from the beginning - ME1, to be prepared for the ME3 as good as I can and make those decision which I want.

[Xeranx]

I have one that I imported, but she romanced Jack as well. Considering how the game plays I'm not looking forward to sidelining the Jack romance to see if the Ashley romance carries on, but we'll see how late it happens in game. If it works out, I can probably report on both.

[goodventure]

Keep testing you guys, I'm looking forward to your results. :]

[SierraGHOSTN7]

Anyone any progress?

[droid105]

Hi, just asking if I have Ashley romance in ME1 (mod) and worked in ME2 (picture in cabin) will I get to continue the romance in ME3?   Has another player who did that mod tried playing ME3 to see if romance can continue?

[SierraGHOSTN7]

@droid105 - it's in the testing stage. I had the beginning of Ash romance, later I propably rushed through game too much, that I missed something and the romance didn't continue. You need to wait for others or better, test yourself. I had the beginning and til the hospital - that was the continuation of Ash's romance.

Btw - your icon is creepy... I hate banshees. Especially in co-op, they are such a pain in the butt to kill.

Modifié par Astaiir, 12 mars 2012 - 04:07 .

[The Enforcer OS]

What testing criteria is in use? According to audio files, strat guides and players, it isn't possible. I don't know why she would be different than Kaiden, but supposedly it isn't possible.

[Jaely]

I would like to know what platform you all are trying this on. As far as I know on the xbox and I think PS3 it's not possible. I do know that you can kind of do it on the PC one do to some kind of character loading or mod but I would really like to know if it is possible for Fem Shep to romance Ash that would be really cool.

[goodventure]

Any more updates on this? A modded ManShep who romanced Kaidan in ME1 works in ME3 because he has the extra dialogue with Kaidan, but I'm wondering if modded FemShep who romanced Ash in ME1 works in ME3 at all...

[XTR3M3]

platform = PC
I tried again with a "clean" slate and for some reason everything works fine until I think either the memorial where you don't get the paragon trigger or at the very least the commons encounter for "shore leave". The audio files aren't there of course but my fem Shep lip syncs to the subtitles so it is OK since Ms. Hale didn't record fem Shep + Ashley lines. I did the romance choices right. There must be a gender check in the middle of the game when the final flag is checked for a serious romance. If that is the case like I think it is, this might not be possible until Gibbed finishes his ME3 save game editor. That is in its alpha form right now with very limited functionality.

I have a sneaking suspicion that the fem Shep + Ashley romance will have to include gender changing the PC with Gibbed's editor like we had to do in ME2 to fem Shep + Miranda or Tali.

[SierraGHOSTN7]

@XTR3M3 - I seriously hope not. It would be horrible if you'd have to make gender-switch during the game multiple times...

[Quething]

Yeah, weirdly, there are lines for the Mars segment. The bitterly unsatisfying "friend" lines during the discussions of Cerberus and Liara's condescending little "when did she get good at her job" thing don't trigger in an imported romance; femShep says all the "standing romance" lines just fine instead. Then there's a sudden Meer voiceover after the Eva fight... even though every line after the first is identical to the friend version and *does* have a Hale voiceover somewhere. Then in the hospital we get lipsynch but no audio for some lines, which is again strange... because you can't generate a lipsynch file without audio to synch it to.

[XTR3M3]

I bet that the lip sync files are separate from the audio files and the engine they use for the head meshes lip syncs are unisex. If they had the audio files recorded with Ms. Hale. I am sure they would have just gone ahead and allowed a legit fem Shep + Ashley romance. They obviously are OK with same gender romances. I tried one last time and the first place something didn't work right was in fact the memorial service for Ashley's sister's husband. I can't get the paragon trigger to happen with a fem Shep no matter what I do. That must be a gender check location.

I am going to try importing a gender changed Shep that has the Miranda romance flag set and see if I can make a fem Shep + Miranda romance work. Miranda was not one of the "big 3" like Ashley, Kaidan and Liara are so the gender checks might not be there. We shall see. I will post findings later.

[SierraGHOSTN7]

Well, I had the romance-trigger dialogue options on Mars. Yeah, I had this maleShep voiceover at the end of Mars as well. At the hospital I had the same, just lipsynch.
The lipsynch and movements are unisex, just how the model should behave, doesn't depend if you're playing as default or custom.
When did you do the memorial of Ash's sis's husband? Just after you go the e-mail.
And please, let me know how the Miranda's romance will go ok? Good luck.

[Quething]

XTR3M3 wrote...

I bet that the lip sync files are separate from the audio files and the engine they use for the head meshes lip syncs are unisex.

Can't be. Meer and Hale don't deliver lines the same way (even if the directors were crazy enough to ask it of them, it'd be basically impossible given the content volume). Best example is the oft-seen Big Stupid Jellyfish scene in ME1; Meer says it "big. stupid. jellyfish," and the animation Shep does with his/her hand lines up perfectly, each word punctuated by a downstroke. Hale says it more like a single phrase, "big stupid jellyfish" and the hand gesture looks a little weird because it doesn't correspond to anything.

Their pacing is different. The syllables last different lengths, come at different times. The pauses are different, the volume is different. A lip file synched to Meer's voiceover wouldn't line up with Hale's for the same line. It'd look awkward and off.

And now I'm wondering how good their autosynch software is, because that'd be a god-awful amount of dialog to go back and tweak by hand (the native one in the DA toolset isn't that great and requires manual tweaking to match audio files, but that's a different engine).

[XTR3M3]

Well, today I got my fem Shep to say one of the lines with Meer's voice. It shocked the crap out of me and the lip sync for it was DEAD ON even though it was my fem Shep with the male Shep Meer voice. I KNOW they did not intend for that to happen so the lip sync software has to be separate from the audio files or it wouldn't have sync'd perfectly like it did. It reminded me of the live action Scooby Doo movie my kids watched where they switched bodies and Fred's voice was coming out of Daphne's body. The romance still wouldn't trigger though. There has to be a gender check in the game either at the memorial or just before. Miranda had no "seal the deal" option either so there must be a gender check in that apt. in the commons as well. I got her to use the male voice on Mars by gender changing a male import that was a !00% complete save using the ME2 save game editor...the latest one.

It looks like we might be at the mercy of Gibbed's schedule. I would like my male Shep to be able to have a go at that hot little Brittish showering assistant too. I think that she should have been the one to go both ways and the reporter could have been female only. Diana is just not for me.

Modifié par XTR3M3, 15 mars 2012 - 02:35 .

[Aurellia]

I just successfully got past the presidium common stage by using gibbed's mass effect 3 editor to set isFemale to false for this scene only. During that scene, FemShep's face looks like she has been huskified and she talks in Shelapoo's voice but once you are past this assuming you choose the right romance choices the AshleyTrueLove flag is set for FemShep. When I get to that point in the game I'll confirm whether that works without further sex changing.

[XTR3M3]

Yea, I saw that the beginnings of the editor up. I was going to give that a shot too. I also have a save right before going into the commons appt. to talk to Miranda I was going to do a little switch for too. I am just going to switch my male Shep for a female Shep at both places. The editor has the import/export feature there. I am going to check to see if it works when I get some more time. I have a save pre-cerberus base assault where I was going to try a full on gender change as well. Did you notice that only males get the paragon icon during Ashley's sister's memorial?

I wish they would just release a construction set like the elder scrolls people do....well after they get all of our DLC money anyway. It would be nice to just take all of the gender checks off even if that means there is no VO for some scenes, only lip sync'd to the subtitles. I could live with that. Then all you would have to do is gender change your ME2 save from male to female, or visa versa depending on how you butter your bread, before you import it in. It works like that right now until the gender checks kick in.

Modifié par XTR3M3, 18 mars 2012 - 10:20 .

[Quething]

Actually the lip synch files are attached to the audio. That's what you're seeing: when it calls Meer's voice, it calls Meer's .lip files.

That said, having played through the Ash beside conversation, her lipsynch doesn't match what she's saying in closed caption - it's not even words. It's just a default movement track. So that answers that question.

Sucks we have to switch genders to trigger even an imported romance. Like the bad old days of trying to romance Miranda/Tali/Jack in ME2. It's particularly obnoxious because there's absolutely no reason a friend Shepard, independent of any romance, shouldn't be able to take an interrupt to be nice to Ash the same as she can take one to be nice to Steve during his Citadel conversation. We can be buddies with a guy we've just met, but we can't console and support someone who's had our back for like four years now?

Hmn. I wonder what would happen if you set the TrueLove flag before the Citadel conversation, instead of changing genders to make the game set it itself?

[Aurellia]

Reposting from another thread

Game_Fan_85 wrote...

Aurellia wrote...

For what it's worth I was able to create a modded import for FemShep on Xbox 360 who romanced Ashley in ME1. So far it has been working out pretty well. At one point I get Shelaloo voicing FemShep but after that the dialog is just silent. I'll let you know if I can complete the romance this way.

How did you manage that?  Is it done through the ME save editor or with a modded 360?  Do you know if Kaidan/mShep is possible through save edditing or mods?

I learned this from http://social.biowar...3/index/2277020

- Choose a career where you have not romanced anyone in ME2 (Kelly seems OK) since you can not change the ME2 romance flags.
- Go to system/storage and MOVE your save game to a USB stick (entire career) which was a little scary.  You can not copy it for some reason.
- Plug your stick into your PC (or Mac running parallels in my case)
- I used modio to open the stick. (http://www.game-tuts...hp?pageid=modio)
- take this time to click on show file (near the top by the file path) and back up your file
- I clicked on show files and chose the save I wanted to mod and right clicked to extract it to my PC
- I opened it in the modified gibbed save game editor (http://social.biowar...m/project/4373/)
- Make sure you edit the ME1 flags in both ME1 tabs.
- I removed Liara as my LI and set her romance progress to 0
- I set Ashley as my LI and set her romance progress to 6
- make sure that you have saved her on Vimire if not change it so you and and remove Kadien
- edit other options you want to change such as destroying heratics or saving Maelin's data
- save your file with a new number just for good measure
- go back to modio and go to the file list
- right click to inject your save back into the career file
- click on General File Info
- click Rehash & Resign
- then click save to device
- make sure you eject your device safely and then plug into your xbox
- now COPY your file back to your xbox.  Yes you can copy it back.
- import based on your new save entry and you should see your new choices in the import data

Note:  I did also make an import where my FemShep had romanced Kaiden and even one where the ME2 flags for Thane were set along with ME1:Ashley.  I haven't tried that one yet but it may also work.  I see no reason why you can't make a mShep Kaiden import but I can't say what will happen in game.

** UPDATE **

I have sucessfully complete this romance.  There is only one place where the gender flag is checked and that is when they meet at the cafe on the citadel.  

To get past that do, make a save before you talk to Ashley.  Then do this same process but use gibbed's ME3 save game editor to change isFemale to false and go through this scene with what will look like a huskified FemShep model (this kind of adds to the charm in a way because of the sacrifice my FemShep had to endure to win the love of her life) and then once that scene is done edit the save to set isFemale back to true.  To be sure double check that AshleyTrueLove is now set to true but if you did the dialog and everythign right it should be.

Now you can finish the game and enjoy a beautiful SS romance with an occasional voice change (thankfully it isn't too bad) and silent dialog.

Modifié par Aurellia, 18 mars 2012 - 07:59 .

[XTR3M3]

I had done the imported game editing already. I guess a gender "is false" change at the right time is necessary. It was in ME2 so it doesn't surprise me that it is again in ME3. I looked in the current editor released and I didn't see where the "AshleyTrueLove" flag is set. I am running the PC version.

Well since I hated the ending choices....or lack of "good" ones I should say....I am going to have fun watching my hot fem Shep do a hot Ashley, a hot Miranda, a hot saucy little Brittish lady and of course Liara. I am not really that attracted to Liara but I am intrigued with what "embracing eternity" with her would feel like.

Modifié par XTR3M3, 18 mars 2012 - 11:45 .

[XTR3M3]

OK, did the gender switch and the fem Shep + Ashley romance scene worked. Here is the bad news. the bodies are off sync some as it is obvious Ashley is still responding to the male Shep mesh so she ends up kissing your fem Shep on the nose instead of the mouth which is weird and sometimes Meer's voice comes out of fem Shep's mouth instead of just lip syncing. It is not the end of the world but it kinda breaks the enjoyment out of it for me.

[Aurellia]

The AshleyTrueLove flag is accessed by knowing the index of the flag.  You can find the values in
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=zv8mxcxs


It is also worth reading the modding thread.

As for the animations, yes they are a tad off but I found it didn't ruin the enjoyment much for me.  I was so happy to be able to retake this romance that should have been made available in the first place.  There is really very little gender specific dialog in the romance.  So this must have been some arbitrary decision by someone  Maybe they figured giving us Jessica Chobit made it unfair so leave Ashley to the d00d br0z.  *shrug*