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[blah64]

Balmung31 wrote...

Honestly? Not much better.

It REALLY depressed the heck outta me. Any time I think of playing ANY of the games, I get a sick feeling in my stomach.

I don't think I can play these games ever again...

And yes, I'm being serious. Mock me all you want, but it's how I feel.

You're not alone in the least.

[iamthespark]

I finished it on Friday and I'm still feeling what happened. Most of my sadness comes from the idea that my Shep didnt come home to Liara.

It is much harder dealing with something when there is no epilogue, no closure. I felt empty. I mean, it happened in DA:O (character death that is), but my actions were shown to have an effect on the characters I cared about.

I feel a lot better when I read the "was it a hallucination" thread.

[Doctoglethorpe]

Same here. Felt extremely depressed like a part of my life was over. Becoming so attached to a video game may seem foolish to some but I can't help how it is. I was literally heart broken by the ending.

Then I came hear and began reading threads full of theories about how this is not the end by any means, weather the hallucination theory ends up beign true or even if it just leads an an expansion where things get put back together a bit and we get some real closure, it all made me feel hope again. Hope is better than emptiness, which is what the game left me with.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but thank you BSN.

[balance5050]

I'm sorry, but fighting for five years just to have the universe end is shambles is not a good ending. I just want to say, the only way to get the ending where shep wakes up on earth is by holding on to the intention that you've had since ME1; DESTROY THE REAPERS! control and synthesis choices are symbolism for what they already have/want, and you agreeing to those essentially means they have broken your will finally and you've become indoctrinated.

What the catalyst says to you is mostly lies, its WHAT YOU DO that matters, your actions. otherwise you could have chose the endings from dialogue wheel.

I don't think everyone appreciates having f***ing circuit board skin.

Modifié par balance5050, 12 mars 2012 - 05:45 .

[commandoclone87]

I'll admit, after losing my ME2 saves and playing through a fresh Shep on this one, there were some moments I actually teared up (Mordin's heroic sacrifice) among others. Sadly I rushed the end the first time without making sure that my readiness was high enough. Watched as Shepard sacrificed herself to save a galaxy at the cost of her own homeworld and the relays.

Honestly, I have no problem with Shepard giving his/her life to save the galaxy. I knew that Shepard's story would not have a happy ending since Mass Effect 1. I find that Shepard's sacrifice in the context of the series as a whole adds a lot of weight to the ending. Yes, the relays are destroyed, but if the Protheans were able to build one, the current civilzation couldn't be more than a few decades behind them and there is still FTL travel (longer than relays, but still viable).

All in all, could the ending have been better though? Yes it could have even if Shepard still died, they could have wrapped it up a little better. Maybe show the rebuilding process and surviving squad members or just provide a little more detail than what was given. Maybe the God/AI/ascended being was a little much, but tolerable (there's been much worse).

Either way, the endings are not what I enjoyed about the series. What I've enjoyed is the journey. Watching Shepard rise above the rank and file, saving civilization from utter destruction, learning about new races and cultures and getting to know my squad on a personal level.

Not disputing why some people hate the ending, Just why I'm not angry about them.

[Vyrii]

I finished the game a few days ago, since then I've been in an epic battle with EA to post on the forums. THAT was apparently the boss battle that BW wanted you to have.

I've had a pretty large hole in my chest since the end, I at least had the support of my RL LI to comfort me in my loss. I just can't believe that I've spent hundreds and hundreds of hours on these games. I spent 80 hours on the 3rd, probably well over 200 on the second, and I can't even begin to imagine how many hours on my countless play through of the first. This isn't even including all the time I've devoted to the... 'universe'. Fanfiction, art, daydreams... for what?

I've found some comfort in the hallucination theory. Some reason to keep waiting. I know that the fanfiction base will explode with rage if it hasn't already. I haven't been able to read any since the incident.

I don't know when I got so attached to the characters. I don't know when my reality started blending with the ME universe. I didn't realize that it would have such a profound affect on me. I'm surviving. I slept 20 hours yesterday, didn't want to wake up.

Funnily enough I got my N7 tags in the mail today. A gift from my other half. It was like losing everything all over again.

[DRAGONFIRE50000000]

I had hoped to send a message to bioware to do my part so the end will change but i had it very difficult when i saw the end. there is no good end only bad. mass effect was more or less my live. i just hope bioware will change the end so my world will not be broken

[Phoenix NL]

I'm so glad I'm not alone in this! I finished the game last night and I felt so empty at the end. After playing the first two games multiple times with careful consideration of my choices and cultivating relationships and with my LI Kaidan this is what we're left with. I always knew I was going to be sad at the end of ME3 as it would be the end of Shepard's story who we've gotten so close to over the past 5 years but like this leaves me depressed! I wanted my Shep to survive and have a future with Kaidan. What happened to all of my squadmates and the people I met along the way? Why after 5 years of loyalty is this what we get rewarded with? Though there's possibly a ray of hope for us - https://twitter.com/...942797880541185

[PayneUK]

I’ll start off by saying; Mass Effect for me was on the verge of going down as my favourite piece of fiction ever, feeling attachment to something that isn’t real is something billions of people do every day on TV shows, books, hell even faith ‘otherworldly powers’ requires this sort of attachment, a computer game is just another method of telling a story, something we as a species have done since the dawn of our time and “games” have allowed us to make them more compelling than ever. How? By letting the audience become part of it, Bioware had done this magnificently in this series.

So by saying that I am sad and disappointed, even 24 hours after finishing holds no shame for me, partly because I know this is the end of the Shepard story but mainly because of the way that end came about. I hit the credits thinking ‘who the hell was that woman on my screen and what has she done with MY Shepard’. Apart from the very basic ability to finish the game it felt that none of my choices since I first set foot on New Eden with Jenkins and Alenko had made any difference what so ever, I had been given the blissful illusion of integration into the Mass Effect universe and then had horribly taken away.

I won’t get into the story as this is already a TL;DR, and I’ve already deleted about 5 paragraphs about individual moments but I want to say that I thought this was about me as Shepard, the person that found the other option, the way no-one had thought off or had given up on, about the determination to say ‘no’ in the face of overwhelming opposition and if you got it right, WIN.

I did not win Mass Effect, to me you can’t, you don’t have the option to do so and while time apparently heals all I don’t think I will try again. By this point after ME1 and ME2 I had already started up my second save, which I think is what disappoints me the most, I genuinely feel that right now that the last 10 minutes of this game will never allow ever immerse myself back into this otherwise magnificent story.

[Captain_Obvious]

I'll echo what haloisi says above; it's finished but Shepard didn't win. More to the point, Shepard never even had the possibility of winning. It's false hope that is more disappointing than an honest defeat.

[Zhen-Lin]

All I know is is the bioware don't give us better alternative endings in DLC, me and my friends are never going to buy bioware products ever again'

I have also put up a post here:
http://social.biowar...5/index/9826133

[Lucubration]

I'm actually still a bit sick to my stomach.  Mass Effect, the one inviolate game I've played in years... was violated.   This is the sort of thing that will honestly haunt me for some time.  Sound dramatic?  It's deserved.

The only kind of 'epic finale' feeling I've taken away from all of this is an incredible sense of bitter defeat and betrayal.  Not in the context of the story, either, but with regards to the development and delivery of the game.  The ending has to be the biggest - and easily the most successful - trolling I've seen in decades.

Sometimes you can walk away from an initial disappointment and, after reflection, find hidden meaning or closure.  All I've experienced is the taste of bile in my mouth slowly turning to ashes.

[skyworkeralan]

I actually activated my account here and refresh everyday to get even the slightest indication that things may change ME3...first time for me for any game.

Man I love this franchise and this is the worst way to witness the finale of a great space opera...imagine the catalyst brat show up at the end of the return of Jedi and telling Luke that the only way to destroy the empire and bring balance to the galaxy is to choose either wipe out the clones or control them by picking the color you want. Or you can hit the death star and synthesize with them. It's just lame.

I mean, the legend of Shepard can totally conclude on a cheesy note and I will still love it. The charm of the franchise (or any franchise) lies in the expansion of franchise universe through official medias (novels, comics, movies etc) long after the series ended, as Star Wars and Gundam series proved so. How hard could it be to make a cheesy ending? They just missed a huge opportunity to influence a whole new generation of Mass Effect nerds for god's sake!

On an off note, I just watched Love Never Dies with my girl friend the other day. It Is the sequel for the great musical The Phantom of the Opera and I had a bad feeling about this musical from the start. And the end of it proved me right again. I just witnessed two ****ty ending from two of my beloved franchises in a single week. I'll just pretend Love Never Dies never happened, but it is hard for me to do so for ME3 after so many years of emotional attachment.

Modifié par skyworkeralan, 12 mars 2012 - 07:49 .

[Reaper511]

It's a testament to bioware that the quality of this single game and the over-arching story of this total universe is SO high that a "sad" ending can have this kind of impact on people. I feel empty, like I just lost a loved one. Writers, you did well, but you are forgetting your stated goals:

I respect the power of the self-sacrifice and the integrity of the writers' work if they feel this is the ending for them, but I read a nice article on the PA report where the lead BW writer talks about "Respecting player choice" and I feel like in this case the story does not respect player choice. This is not my ending. It may be selfish, but after all the work and time... my shepard deserves a happy ending and as a consumer of escapist fiction I need one for me.

I'm not ashamed (now that I see how far from alone I am) to say that this ending crushed me (full green readiness bar too so it was the "good" ending). I was devastated. I actually said "no!" out loud at my TV when it became clear what my options were. I've spent so much time with these characters, only to see myself forced with 3 different ways to doom everyone I ever knew to a crappy future, and die while I'm at it. No closure about my friends' fates. No hope that this cycle can rebuild and live on. No growing old with my buddy Garrus and shooting bottles and sharing stories.

This is one of the best action games I've ever played, and one of the best RPGs too. But only the film version of "THE MIST" had a more powerfully soul-crushing impact on me when it was over... and I suspect Mass Effect will be a lingering hurt, after the years I've spent getting to know these characters.

The endings you gave us were pretty well-written (could use a BIT more explanation on some stuff since you said this wasn't supposed to be as mysterious as Lost's ending), but they didn't feel like MY ending. They invalidated several of my choices. MY Shepard would not have liked those options... my shepard would have used his incredible persuasion skills to force a new option.

This hurt, Bioware. Kudos to you on the gameplay quality you created, and the power of what you have built, and the incredible experience and ride it has been, but after you worked so hard to invest me in MY decisions, MY actions, and the consequences they wrought... why do this?

[MzAdventure]

50 hours later and I'm still in pain.

[Phoenix NL]

haloisi wrote...

I’ll start off by saying; Mass Effect for me was on the verge of going down as my favourite piece of fiction ever, feeling attachment to something that isn’t real is something billions of people do every day on TV shows, books, hell even faith ‘otherworldly powers’ requires this sort of attachment, a computer game is just another method of telling a story, something we as a species have done since the dawn of our time and “games” have allowed us to make them more compelling than ever. How? By letting the audience become part of it, Bioware had done this magnificently in this series.

So by saying that I am sad and disappointed, even 24 hours after finishing holds no shame for me, partly because I know this is the end of the Shepard story but mainly because of the way that end came about. I hit the credits thinking ‘who the hell was that woman on my screen and what has she done with MY Shepard’. Apart from the very basic ability to finish the game it felt that none of my choices since I first set foot on New Eden with Jenkins and Alenko had made any difference what so ever, I had been given the blissful illusion of integration into the Mass Effect universe and then had horribly taken away.

I won’t get into the story as this is already a TL;DR, and I’ve already deleted about 5 paragraphs about individual moments but I want to say that I thought this was about me as Shepard, the person that found the other option, the way no-one had thought off or had given up on, about the determination to say ‘no’ in the face of overwhelming opposition and if you got it right, WIN.

I did not win Mass Effect, to me you can’t, you don’t have the option to do so and while time apparently heals all I don’t think I will try again. By this point after ME1 and ME2 I had already started up my second save, which I think is what disappoints me the most, I genuinely feel that right now that the last 10 minutes of this game will never allow ever immerse myself back into this otherwise magnificent story.

My feelings exactly!

[iconoclasts]

I fininished it two nights ago. Right after I finished I was in such a state of shock I couldn't sleep. The next morning I looked up the other possible endings and started bawling because they were all so bad. I have felt really awful the last two days. I'm just now playing MP before I tackle SP again. 

[Phoenix NL]

Reaper511 wrote...

It's a testament to bioware that the quality of this single game and the over-arching story of this total universe is SO high that a "sad" ending can have this kind of impact on people. I feel empty, like I just lost a loved one. Writers, you did well, but you are forgetting your stated goals:

I respect the power of the self-sacrifice and the integrity of the writers' work if they feel this is the ending for them, but I read a nice article on the PA report where the lead BW writer talks about "Respecting player choice" and I feel like in this case the story does not respect player choice. This is not my ending. It may be selfish, but after all the work and time... my shepard deserves a happy ending and as a consumer of escapist fiction I need one for me.

I'm not ashamed (now that I see how far from alone I am) to say that this ending crushed me (full green readiness bar too so it was the "good" ending). I was devastated. I actually said "no!" out loud at my TV when it became clear what my options were. I've spent so much time with these characters, only to see myself forced with 3 different ways to doom everyone I ever knew to a crappy future, and die while I'm at it. No closure about my friends' fates. No hope that this cycle can rebuild and live on. No growing old with my buddy Garrus and shooting bottles and sharing stories.

This is one of the best action games I've ever played, and one of the best RPGs too. But only the film version of "THE MIST" had a more powerfully soul-crushing impact on me when it was over... and I suspect Mass Effect will be a lingering hurt, after the years I've spent getting to know these characters.

The endings you gave us were pretty well-written (could use a BIT more explanation on some stuff since you said this wasn't supposed to be as mysterious as Lost's ending), but they didn't feel like MY ending. They invalidated several of my choices. MY Shepard would not have liked those options... my shepard would have used his incredible persuasion skills to force a new option.

This hurt, Bioware. Kudos to you on the gameplay quality you created, and the power of what you have built, and the incredible experience and ride it has been, but after you worked so hard to invest me in MY decisions, MY actions, and the consequences they wrought... why do this?

I'm totally with you on this. When I heard what the options were it instantly ruined it for me. I even went online in a desperate hope that one of these options wasn't as bad as it sounded. Like you MY Shepard would have never made any of those choices. Sacrifice herself so that the Reapers are destroyed but everyone else is left ok - yes - any of the options presented - HELL NO! My Shepard had integrity and would have found another way like she always did. Through the games I fell in love with the characters and their quirks and I wanted the best for them. I managed to keep everyone alive in ME2 and I was genuinely upset when Thane, Legion and Mordin died. But last night I did find myself lying awake having the ending going over and over in my head and asking why on earth Bioware had done this. I still don't have an answer and it still hurts.

[Darkmood76]

Since completing the game last night, I as well feel much the same as others here in this thread, a mix of disappointment and a hollow feeling that I can't quiet put my finger on.

[RavenWoodRCOM]

It's been almost 48 hours and I'm still feeling the effects of the attempted indoctrination. 
Honestly, I can't really concentrate on anything else. 


^This song has been haunting my mind since the end. 

Modifié par RavenWoodRCOM, 12 mars 2012 - 08:51 .

[OblivionDawn]

Zhen-Lin wrote...

All I know is is the bioware don't give us better alternative endings in DLC, me and my friends are never going to buy bioware products ever again'

I have also put up a post here:
http://social.biowar...5/index/9826133

/signed

[locsphere]

Well... I started eating again. Lost a lot of weight, waiting to hear when the wake is.... Want to be able to be there to put this to rest. We will all be having food after services. Rest in peace ME3. You gave us a Epic fight, but you just didn't have it in you at the end.

[Lost Mercenary]

This is not gonna go away for a long time with people i reckon. Not until we get an answer from bioware at least.

[Mc Amnesia]

Seeing that everyone feels the same as I do, im still thinking about and cant get it off my mind.

[ragecage559]

It's been about 72 hours and it comes and goes. When I am busy at work, focusing on what I am doing I get a few moments of feeling alright and then when things slow down all I can do is sit there in the truck and think about this and I become numb again. Thankfully I don't choke up and tear up like I was, but the numbness is still there. Still haven't played anything (I have Reckoning and Dead Island to finish still) and I have no desire to play anything.

As is, no way I will play the ME series ever again, the more I type here and think about it, I get angrier and angrier at BW for this. I can't fathom how they couldn't know that these kind of reactions wouldn't happen. I feel like this is a big cruel trolling act done by them. I haven't felt this bad since my ex left me and you know what, I had no problems cutting ties with her, and I will have no problems doing the same to BW and EA for that matter if they want to sit there and laugh at our expense.

I need closure on this, seriously.

Modifié par ragecage559, 12 mars 2012 - 09:25 .