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Seanabhainn

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Gen.Veers wrote...

I was looking at an article on eurogamer about Mass Effect 3, and noticed this quote from Mike Gamble:  

"Whether you're happy or angry at the ending, know this: it is an ending. BioWare will not do a "Lost" and leave fans with more questions than answers after finishing the game.."

Now that you've seen the ending, would you say BioWare has held up on that promise?<_<


Won't leave us with more questions?  Have they read anything on here or any of the new articles on how WE HAVE QUESTIONS LEFT UNANSWERED?  Buh.

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Paulinius wrote...

I can't find the exact quote, but to paraphrase Mac Walters said "no one cares more about Mass Effect then us (the writing team)."



If this is how they treat things they care about, I feel sorry for their families. 

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Then why did they pull a Lost and leave so many questions that need answering and so many plot holes that made it look like Swiss cheese?

Modifié par Foehamer1, 11 mars 2012 - 06:22 .


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LOL, more and more people are making the connection between LOST and ME3 as hours pass. Hopefully DLCs can fix most of Plot Holes,

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I love how he said that the majority of players will be satisfied by the ending. Everyone I know who has finished the game has responded with either WTF or shock. None have even accepted the ending, much less been satisfied by it.

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hippanda wrote...


"The Catalyst starts going on and on about how the created will always kill the creator. The most critical moment in the game, and yet, there's no option to jerk that kid up by his holographic hair and say, "Bulls***! Look out there. Geth and Quarian, fighting side by side. Look at the Normandy, look at Joker and EDI. We're making it work. Maybe it will last, maybe it won't, but who the f*** are you deny us the chance to try?""

Dude this would have been ****ing brilliant were it introduced to the game , funnily enough this is the sort of answer Shepard has been giving to everyone who said he couldnt succeed in doing x , y or Z throughout ME1 , 2 and the majority of 3 so how in the hell that was not an option at the end is beyond me .

Bioware fix this , YOU JUST HAVE TO .

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Delkarnu wrote...

Paulinius wrote...

I can't find the exact quote, but to paraphrase Mac Walters said "no one cares more about Mass Effect then us (the writing team)."



If this is how they treat things they care about, I feel sorry for their families. 


Lol. :lol:


-Polite

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Phydeaux314 wrote...

The ending has all the clarity of the Lost ending, the faith to the series of the BSG ending, the production quality of the KOTOR2 ending, and the flexibility and relevance to your past choices as the Deus Ex: Human Revolution ending.


And made the Star Wars prequels look good.

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Biotic, will you pretty please stop white knighting? All I see you do is come to these threads and talk smack to the people who dislike the endings. Your not trying to state your opinion, you are telling others their opinion is wrong. So would you kindly stop trolling and let us all get back to bashing BioWare for releasing possibly the worst ending to anything ever in the history of ever?

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Gen.Veers wrote...

I was looking at an article on eurogamer about Mass Effect 3, and noticed this quote from Mike Gamble:  

"Whether you're happy or angry at the ending, know this: it is an ending. BioWare will not do a "Lost" and leave fans with more questions than answers after finishing the game.."

Now that you've seen the ending, would you say BioWare has held up on that promise?<_<

No.

Questions:
1. How the frelling hezmana did Liara who I took with me for the final mission survive and board the Normandy?
2. How did the crew that is to small to sustain a colony actually do it?
3. What happened to the survivors of the fleet deal with being stranded in the Local Cluster or possibly even stranded in just the Sol System of the Local Cluster?
4. How did the massive amount of people survive on just Earth's resources and what they had on board their ships?
5. Since human food is at best inedible for quarians what are they going to eat when their stockpile runs out?
6. Since human food at best is non-nutrious what are they going to eat when their stockpile runs out?
7. Who was the Stargazer descended from?
8. What happened to Edi is she didn't get destroyed?
9. Why during the Synthesis ending does Edi come out 2nd and Liara 3rd but in the Control ending Liara comes out 2nd and Edi third? (Haven't done the Destroy ending yet and haven't youtubed that part yet either)
10. Why doesn't Joker put his arm around Edi during the Control ending like he did during the Synthesis ending?
11. Why do you hate your customers?

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- Why did Shepard submit to the psychopathic entity that's been controlling her/his worst enemy?
- Why did Joker quit the battle?
- Why didn't the god child open the Citadel itself years ago?
- Did the mass relays destroy their home systems or not? And if not, given Arrival, why not?
- How is ANYONE going to survive stranded far from home with no resources?
- Why did Shepard's squadmates abandon her/him?
- Why did Harbinger play next to no role in the narrative despite his previous obsessive interest with Shepard?
- Why did Sovereign claim Reapers are "each a nation, independant." when the god child claims to control them all?


I don't know about the others, but i do know that as Shep is waking up after being lasered by the reaper, you hear over the radio people screaming that Shepard is dead.

As such, his teammates wouldnt have believed they were abandoning him, cause as far as they know he's been charbroiled.

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Gen.Veers wrote...

I was looking at an article on eurogamer about Mass Effect 3, and noticed this quote from Mike Gamble:  

"Whether you're happy or angry at the ending, know this: it is an ending. BioWare will not do a "Lost" and leave fans with more questions than answers after finishing the game.."

Now that you've seen the ending, would you say BioWare has held up on that promise?<_<


*breaks into a laughing fit to cover up the fact she's crying inside*

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Avarenda wrote...


- Why did Shepard submit to the psychopathic entity that's been controlling her/his worst enemy?
- Why did Joker quit the battle?
- Why didn't the god child open the Citadel itself years ago?
- Did the mass relays destroy their home systems or not? And if not, given Arrival, why not?
- How is ANYONE going to survive stranded far from home with no resources?
- Why did Shepard's squadmates abandon her/him?
- Why did Harbinger play next to no role in the narrative despite his previous obsessive interest with Shepard?
- Why did Sovereign claim Reapers are "each a nation, independant." when the god child claims to control them all?


I don't know about the others, but i do know that as Shep is waking up after being lasered by the reaper, you hear over the radio people screaming that Shepard is dead.

As such, his teammates wouldnt have believed they were abandoning him, cause as far as they know he's been charbroiled.

... and then he opens the Citadel's arms and has a conversation with Admiral Hackett.

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Maybe these mean more than what you think... patience.   Something seems slightly off.

Modifié par Kabraxal, 11 mars 2012 - 07:02 .


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Ranicus56 wrote...
I would say more but i would get banned.

Yeah, the new stricter forum rules just before release are probably no coincidence.

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AxisEvolve wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

- Why did Shepard submit to the psychopathic entity that's been controlling her/his worst enemy?
- Why did Joker quit the battle?
- Why didn't the god child open the Citadel itself years ago?
- Did the mass relays destroy their home systems or not? And if not, given Arrival, why not?
- How is ANYONE going to survive stranded far from home with no resources?
- Why did Shepard's squadmates abandon her/him?
- Why did Harbinger play next to no role in the narrative despite his previous obsessive interest with Shepard?
- Why did Sovereign claim Reapers are "each a nation, independant." when the god child claims to control them all?

That's just off the top of my head.

This is what happens when you change your direction at the last minute. I wish the writers would have stayed consistent. 


Not sure how you mean it, but for me it is really the last 5 minutes that breaks immersion, suspension of disbelief, and story continuity all at the same time. The rest of ME3 did remain somewhat consistant (for the most part) with the previous game, and though the theme did take a darker tone none of it was absent in the previous game. It was just a change of focus.

What I think is worst is I think the last 5 minutes breaks consistency with the rest of ME3 itself too. Those 5 minutes completely breaks from the whole series but also stretches things within its own story.

I fear ME3 suffered the Borg effect but on a larger scale and more horrifically. It is a TNG episode where the writers have written themselves into a corner, by making the big bad unbeatable and couldn't think of how the crew can pull this off yet still have it believable (by Star Trek standards at least). So what was an amazing episode had the oddest ending ever... tricking the Borg to go to sleep (which causes them to self-destruct).

I think ME3 fell into the same trap. So by the end it all gets resolved by a Star Child...

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I could live with the main character's death. I just want to know what the hell happened to everyone else. Closure would be nice, thanks.

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What happens with exeryone stuck in the Sol system?
Did ANYTING I do matter?
Somebody who did the minmal gets the same ending as someone who did Everything?

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Lili Dragunova wrote...

I could live with the main character's death. I just want to know what the hell happened to everyone else. Closure would be nice, thanks.


I agree completely. We know absolutely nothing about how things turn out for the galaxi or the crew or how they reacted to the "victory". In my opinion they skipped the most important thing, and that was making sure people felt that there is no loose ends. All we got was a few extremely vague scenes, to allow for some speculation. But at the same time there are so many things that dont make sense if you read into those scenes. If they truely intend on answering all this in a new game, then say so.
The reason im disappointed with an otherwise awesome game, is that im affraid that im gonna be stuck with all those underanswered questions.

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hippanda wrote...

... and then he opens the Citadel's arms and has a conversation with Admiral Hackett.


You make a good point. Forget I mentioned it lol.

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Truly a sad day.

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Reading this one can come to only two possible conclusions.
1) Mike had no idea what was in the game and was just an indoctrinated husk reciting the line from his reaper masters.
2) Mike had spent lots of time in discussions of the concept of the ending that there was an epic reality in their minds that the writers simply failed utterly and totally to translate to the concept into the game.

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Yeah cause the Synthesis ending doesn't raise any questions at all. And what exactly the Catalyst is, and why its plan was "save organics from synthetics by destroying organics with synthetics" is also unanswered.

As far as I'm concerned the Indoctrination fan theory built up here on the forums is my canon, at least it's more satisfying than space magic.

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hippanda wrote...

Avarenda wrote...


- Why did Shepard submit to the psychopathic entity that's been controlling her/his worst enemy?
- Why did Joker quit the battle?
- Why didn't the god child open the Citadel itself years ago?
- Did the mass relays destroy their home systems or not? And if not, given Arrival, why not?
- How is ANYONE going to survive stranded far from home with no resources?
- Why did Shepard's squadmates abandon her/him?
- Why did Harbinger play next to no role in the narrative despite his previous obsessive interest with Shepard?
- Why did Sovereign claim Reapers are "each a nation, independant." when the god child claims to control them all?


I don't know about the others, but i do know that as Shep is waking up after being lasered by the reaper, you hear over the radio people screaming that Shepard is dead.

As such, his teammates wouldnt have believed they were abandoning him, cause as far as they know he's been charbroiled.

... and then he opens the Citadel's arms and has a conversation with Admiral Hackett.

Exactly!  Shepard's squad at that point would ignore even a direct order from Shepard himself to get him back safe.

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I'm going to call Mr. Gamble out and say "bullsh*t". I definitely have more questions then answers now. ugh.