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[destroyer 654]

I dont exactly love it and cherish it but at the same time im not going to stop playing the game or never play a bioware game like some people here are. Im not going to take it that far however i do hope they give out some-free- dlc to change or at least modify the endings. Overall amazing game, flawless untill the last 10 minutes.

[Leonia]

Nothing metaphysical in ME? Did you not talk to Sovereign in ME1? I'm satisfied with the endings, confused by the Normandy thing but otherwise perfectly happy with how it finished. There could have been more, we always want more when our favourite story is over, but all in all it wrapped up nicely.

[JeffZero]

leonia42 wrote...

Nothing metaphysical in ME? Did you not talk to Sovereign in ME1? I'm satisfied with the endings, confused by the Normandy thing but otherwise perfectly happy with how it finished. There could have been more, we always want more when our favourite story is over, but all in all it wrapped up nicely.

Man, whenever I find someone else on the BSN who's satisfied with the endings I feel like I'm shining my rifle's flashlight on a golden shiny wire of hope after a miles-long sprawl through pitch black.

[prsquared]

Without getting into the details, I liked the game, and the ending was an acceptable one for a Sci Fi game. Thing is, people who like the minute details(like me) will be left disappointed. You won't feel like playing/reading/watching anything related to ME after it.

[JeffZero]

prsquared wrote...

Without getting into the details, I liked the game, and the ending was an acceptable one for a Sci Fi game. Thing is, people who like the minute details(like me) will be left disappointed. You won't feel like playing/reading/watching anything related to ME after it.

I dunno, I'm all about the details and I'm very interested in seeing where they take the franchise going forward. Key phrase: going forward, though. I admit to being far less intrigued by anything set prior, now.

There's going to be some canonization. Either that or lo and behold, they really aren't planning on another Mass Effect project for like five or more years.

[THEE_DEATHMASTER]

I haven't shared plenty of opinions with a lot of forum goers here, and I don't think I will in this case either. I only saw a part of the best ending, I think it's quite hopeful (or at least that's what they wanted it to be, not that everyone is taking it that way). I think some of the open endedness is intended for possible sequels. I think whether Shepard is alive or not is not meant to be answered by them, but by your choice to get that ending or not.

Modifié par THEE_DEATHMASTER, 11 mars 2012 - 07:59 .

[Dark_Caduceus]

Moonshadow_Dark wrote...

I liked the ending. Did my job. Life is safe. I did my job. Next hero, please.

Did you accomplish anything though. The goal of the series has always been defeating the Reapers. If you go down the route to destroy the Reapers however the Godchild just tells you the problem will arise once again as soon as organic life develops AI, so... did you do your job? Was the sacrifice worth it? I feel like I should have gone with Liara's idea and just dissapeared off the grid, pick up all your allies and friends and find a secluded planet to hide away and die on happily...

[JeffZero]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

What ever man, you can condescend to my thinking process as soon as you actually learn to write AND figure out reading comprehension is ok?

I find this sentence deliciously ironic.

what ever big stupid jellyfish are even smarter than mass effect 3 because they're so dumb but not as dumb HAH

[ognick23]

JeffZero wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

Nothing metaphysical in ME? Did you not talk to Sovereign in ME1? I'm satisfied with the endings, confused by the Normandy thing but otherwise perfectly happy with how it finished. There could have been more, we always want more when our favourite story is over, but all in all it wrapped up nicely.

Man, whenever I find someone else on the BSN who's satisfied with the endings I feel like I'm shining my rifle's flashlight on a golden shiny wire of hope after a miles-long sprawl through pitch black.

that made me LOL but i do agree with you Jeff

[JeffZero]

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

Moonshadow_Dark wrote...

I liked the ending. Did my job. Life is safe. I did my job. Next hero, please.

Did you accomplish anything though. The goal of the series has always been defeating the Reapers. If you go down the route to destroy the Reapers however the Godchild just tells you the problem will arise once again as soon as organic life develops AI, so... did you do your job? Was the sacrifice worth it? I feel like I should have gone with Liara's idea and just dissapeared off the grid, pick up all your allies and friends and find a secluded planet to hide away and die on happily...

The goal of the series has been saving the galaxy from the Reapers. The specifics of that endeavor were never written in stone. That's how I view it. You're just as free to view it as you do, but I think it's a very subjective issue.

And hell yes I accomplished things. Just because uniting clans, curing diseases, ending centuries-old stalemates and straight down to giving widows closure isn't reflected in the ending cinematic doesn't mean it didn't happen and it doesn't mean the galaxy's survivors, albeit whilst fumbling in the dark for several hundred years or more while running around the galaxy in a much more difficult way, won't be better off for it.

I don't believe the entire game would be written around such great trilogy-capping accomplishments on Shepard's part if the writers intended to convey that the endgame decision renders any of them meaningless in the grand scheme of things. When they start freely discussing what they were aiming for in the coming weeks, that's something I think they are absolutely going to drive home. Not a lot of people are going to be satisfied with such a response and yeah, maybe they will indeed release alternate ending DLCs because at this rate it seems like a profitable motive. But I do believe they're going to start off by saying that, at the very least.

[JeffZero]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Either that or lo and behold, they really aren't planning on another Mass Effect project for like five or more years.

That's good, because there are a lot of fans who want nothing more to do with ME unless they fix the endings.

I know there are. I know you're one of them. I know GMag is too. I feel for you folks, I do.

This is one campaign I can't fight though.

[Icinix]

Nope.

The total redundancy of any of the choices you made.

The fact that if you go in with minimum and do none of the side quests - or go in with everything maxed out - and you get the same endings with only a token difference that is made moot at the end of it anyway.

The confusion over top tier endings requiring over 5000 war assets, but lack of info about if this is total assets or effective assets.

The complete lack of an epilogue.

The fact that at no point during the dream sequence or the catalyst or the end cutscene did I feel like this was a Mass Effect game - they just felt so out of place for me.

The total destruction and undoing of the Mass Effect galaxy as we know it.

Honestly - it destroyed the wonder and epicness that Mass Effect had built up for me over 3 games and 5 years.

Damn shame - because Mass Effect 3 up until that point is one of the best games in the last few years - but personally with games, I remember the destination more than the journey. We play games for the ending. We watch movies to see the ending. We read books for the ending. They end. The end needs to be amazing and tie everything up or at least leave nothing in the mind of the player about what has happened (The exception to this is of course unless the point of the game is to ask us what is important like Inception etc).

The whole implication of bed time stories and legends just kill the ME universe. Its almost as bad as "It was all a dream".

[ognick23]

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

Moonshadow_Dark wrote...

I liked the ending. Did my job. Life is safe. I did my job. Next hero, please.

Did you accomplish anything though. The goal of the series has always been defeating the Reapers. If you go down the route to destroy the Reapers however the Godchild just tells you the problem will arise once again as soon as organic life develops AI, so... did you do your job? Was the sacrifice worth it? I feel like I should have gone with Liara's idea and just dissapeared off the grid, pick up all your allies and friends and find a secluded planet to hide away and die on happily...

Shepard gave people the option to choose their own fate, if they destroy themselves thats on them but to have the Reapers just destroy everything regardless is even worse and Shepard stopped that which is mission complete to me

[Leonia]

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

Moonshadow_Dark wrote...

I liked the ending. Did my job. Life is safe. I did my job. Next hero, please.

Did you accomplish anything though. The goal of the series has always been defeating the Reapers. If you go down the route to destroy the Reapers however the Godchild just tells you the problem will arise once again as soon as organic life develops AI, so... did you do your job? Was the sacrifice worth it? I feel like I should have gone with Liara's idea and just dissapeared off the grid, pick up all your allies and friends and find a secluded planet to hide away and die on happily...

Doing what Liara suggested sounds very selfish when the rest of the galaxy is in desperate need of repair and recovery.

AI development will take considerable time, especially if you wiped out the quarians and/or geth. But you can't rely on a synthetic viewpoint about the future of organics. Maybe organics will do things differently this time now that they have a second chance, maybe not but either way Shepard give them the chance. It's kind of like the whole argument over free will, you can speculate on what might happen but nobody knows for sure.

Honestly, I didn't view it as Shepard making a sacrifice so much as her attempting to make the sacrifices of everybody else have some meaning. If you chose synthesis, then what was the point of everyone who threw their lives away to defeat the Reapers? If you helped the krogan, don't you want to give them a chance to have a real future? And besides, the relays are gone, all those different races that came together to fight on Earth are stuck there (assuming the relay explosions don't destroy their respective star system like in Arrival).

The war to end all wars brought a unity that the galaxy had never seen before, something the synthetics didn't think was actually possible. It might not be order but we all know that order descends into chaos anyway so you may as well go with chaos in the end.

But this is probably not the right thread for such theoretical debate on the ending choice.

Modifié par leonia42, 11 mars 2012 - 08:11 .

[JeffZero]

leonia, ugh, I could hug you tonight.

[Schneidend]

Really enjoyed the two endings I tried with my main DudeShep, which I'll call "Red" and "Green." Green felt a lot more satisfying and positive, but Red was certainly cool with the triumphant cheer, despite the sad implications for a certain crew member.

[JeffZero]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Either that or lo and behold, they really aren't planning on another Mass Effect project for like five or more years.

That's good, because there are a lot of fans who want nothing more to do with ME unless they fix the endings.

I know there are. I know you're one of them. I know GMag is too. I feel for you folks, I do.

This is one campaign I can't fight though.

Well, at least you're respectful about it. Unlike a lot of pro-ending people (looks at post up the page).

Well you know, I try. :happy:

[Alien1099]

Finished it tonight. I did not like them at all. Great game. INCREDIBLY LAZY ENDINGS that left a LOT to be desired. I'm not having a mental breakdown over it like some people seem to be, but I don't understand how they came up with the endings they did. It still left a lot unresolved, plot holes, and there wasn't much in the way of choice.

[Hatchetman77]

leonia42 wrote...

Nothing metaphysical in ME? Did you not talk to Sovereign in ME1? I'm satisfied with the endings, confused by the Normandy thing but otherwise perfectly happy with how it finished. There could have been more, we always want more when our favourite story is over, but all in all it wrapped up nicely.

Can you help me understand what Soveriegn said that was metaphysical?  He said the reapers were an ancient robotic species that thought organic life was a cancer.  He didn't start preaching about space gods or anything. 

[Leonia]

I wouldn't mind a proper epilogue sequence, for what it's worth, otherwise if people were expecting rainbows and sunshine then I hold no sympathy for them.