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[Militarized]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Why does BioWare refuse to answer this? Aren't 11,000 people enough to make them talk? Even if they do fix things I'm not buying from BioWare again, this mess with the endings is just an example of what's coming.

They're on vacation I believe, though they're sorta checking twitter. This will only get worse I think as more and more finish the game. 

As I've said before, I see a big meeting come monday. 

[Eterna]

Qutayba wrote...

Am I right that the system prevents multiple votes by one person?

Dunno, I've been able to click the options repeatedly over the last few days. 

[Splinter Cell 108]

Militarized wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Why does BioWare refuse to answer this? Aren't 11,000 people enough to make them talk? Even if they do fix things I'm not buying from BioWare again, this mess with the endings is just an example of what's coming.

They're on vacation I believe, though they're sorta checking twitter. This will only get worse I think as more and more finish the game. 

As I've said before, I see a big meeting come monday. 

Vacation my a**, this is a big problem and it should be adressed accordingly. This only shows the lack of importance that BioWare gives to their customers. Apparently 11,000 people isn't enough to do anything. Besides this isn't DA they're dealing with, its Mass Effect and if things are what they seem Mass Effect is WAY bigger than DA in terms of fanbase. 

Modifié par Splinter Cell 108, 11 mars 2012 - 06:21 .

[Animositisomina]

Eterna5 wrote...

Qutayba wrote...

Am I right that the system prevents multiple votes by one person?

Dunno, I've been able to click the options repeatedly over the last few days. 

I've been able to vote every time someone links to the poll, so it's definitely possible to vote more than once per user.

[Deltateam Elcor]

 12000 people versus millions?

Are people stupid on purpose, you have to look more closely at the destroy ending, pref with high readiness.

The answer is there, people just dont want it.

[ABCoLD]

Yeah, the ending wasn't that good.

[pomrink]

Animositisomina wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Qutayba wrote...

Am I right that the system prevents multiple votes by one person?

Dunno, I've been able to click the options repeatedly over the last few days. 

I've been able to vote every time someone links to the poll, so it's definitely possible to vote more than once per user.

I dont think it counts it

[Phoenix_Fyre]

I just voted... last time I checked it was 11,774 votes

[RaptorZefier]

86%, Geeze, on our next episode of one sided fist fights. . .

[SomeKindaEnigma]

Sywen wrote...

The destination killed the journey.

[Qutayba]

Well, I hope they have some way of tracking unique votes then. I think the real numbers are high enough for them to notice, but I would hate for it to be dismissed because of lots of multiple votes. It's not proof of a majority since participants in the forums and participants in that poll are self-selecting, BUT it could serve as an indication of the sentiment.

There are people that like the ending. I don't want a Disney ending, either. That video linked in Aimlessgun's signature would have been a perfect ending, and it's achieved by REMOVING from rather than ADDING to the existing ending. It's very telling. Shep dies, but Earth is saved. Something beyond just the Normandy needs to be saved in the happiest of endings.

[ABCoLD]

21 votes away from 12,000

Edit:  There it goes.

Modifié par ABCoLD, 11 mars 2012 - 06:32 .

[AxisEvolve]

Deltateam Elcor wrote...

 12000 people versus millions?

You obviously don't understand the concept of polling. 

[Animositisomina]

pomrink wrote...

Animositisomina wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Qutayba wrote...

Am I right that the system prevents multiple votes by one person?

Dunno, I've been able to click the options repeatedly over the last few days. 

I've been able to vote every time someone links to the poll, so it's definitely possible to vote more than once per user.

I dont think it counts it

The number goes up, so I assume it counts.

[Lucy Glitter]

 If I got a dollar for everytime I heard that someone was pissed off with the ending, i'd be 11,500 dollars richer.

Modifié par Lucy_Glitter, 11 mars 2012 - 06:47 .

[Militarized]

Deltateam Elcor wrote...

 12000 people versus millions?

Are people stupid on purpose, you have to look more closely at the destroy ending, pref with high readiness.

The answer is there, people just dont want it.

Well... they actually usually gather polling data with way less people then that. So technically it could be quite accurate. 

[UltraBulldozer]

Can someone explain what they didnt like about the ending in depth? I liked mine which was the destroy choice with Shepard living. My only problems are with how we are told that the synthesis choice is the only one that will destroy the Relays yet every single one appears to, The player is left guessing where the normandy and crew end up, and if my shepard is alive how the hell is anyone gonna save him from bleeding out on the debri of the catalyst?   

[Citizen Q]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Why does BioWare refuse to answer this? Aren't 11,000 people enough to make them talk? Even if they do fix things I'm not buying from BioWare again, this mess with the endings is just an example of what's coming.

Numerous reason, I'd imagine.

Though from what I gather, week after release and all, most would be on vacation. With any luck there will be a meeting sh"tstorm on Monday.

[Citizen Q]

UltraBulldozer wrote...

Can someone explain what they didnt like about the ending in depth? I liked mine which was the destroy choice with Shepard living. My only problems are with how we are told that the synthesis choice is the only one that will destroy the Relays yet every single one appears to, The player is left guessing where the normandy and crew end up, and if my shepard is alive how the hell is anyone gonna save him from bleeding out on the debri of the catalyst?   

-The endings take nothing from the games into account, they are effectively in a bubble sealed off from the rest of the ME universe. Not a good move in a game based around choice.

- Every good/bad thing you did in the lead up to the end is effectivly erased by the collapse of Galactic Civilization due to the destruction of the relays. This is also the exact opposite of what we we're trying to accomplish, The preservation of Galactic Society.

- Because the relays are destroyed, large parts of every major galactic race are now stuck in the Sol system including a fleet of pirates, a receipe for disaster even if the one stabilizing element, Shepard wasn't dead or incapacitated and Earth's life supporting infrastructure hadn't just been decimated by a Reaper invasion. Not to mention all the Turian's and Quarian's will starve due to lack of Dextro-amino food supplies.

- Shepard has made a career out of taking the option not offered, in any situation from dealing with the Council to dealing with a Reaper. Now, the master of the Reapers, the one being Shepard should consider his arch-enemy offers him 3 horrible solutions to the Reaper problem, and Shep just blindly excepts not only the options, but the limited explanations given to him by a being who just admitted to wiping out untold numbers of CIVILIZATIONS.

-Shep has no chance at a happy ending even if he survives, due to his crew and significant other being stranded on another planet with the relays destroyed. Why they ran from the battle and how the members of Shep's squad on Earth got back to the Normandy is left unexplained.

The three options themselves are also repulsive.

-Control is wrong because the Reapers are evil and the galaxy deserves to be rid of them.

-Destroy is wrong because it kills EDI and the Geth.

-Systhesis is the worst of them because it takes a dump all over the principles of free will and self determination, two ideas which are central to the Mass Effect universe at large.

-The worst aspect of the endings is that all of them destroy the Mass Relays, which will cause the collapse of galactic society thereby rendering all the things you did to bring the galaxy together or make humans dominante irrelevent. I.E. Wrex is now stuck on Earth, rendering the Genophage cure pointless as the Krogan will continue to destroy each other without him.

-Many peoples Shepards (mine included) would never have settled for the 3 options presented, prefering to go down fighting against impossible odds while searching for another way, however this was not an option given to us by Bioware. Just blindly be lead around by a genocidal little bast'ard.

Overall the endings are a travesty and a black stain on what would otherwise be the best Sci-Fi story in recent history.

Modifié par Citizen Q, 11 mars 2012 - 07:16 .

[Citizen Q]

Sorry for the wall of text, but that is just the abbreviated version of all the things I find wrong with the ending. Could go on for days.

All made worse by the fact that It was sooooo good right up until Bioware dropped the Reaper God-Child Deus Ex Machina plot bomb.

[bossk-office]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...
Why does BioWare refuse to answer this?

Because there’s nothing they can say that would make it better. They have nothing to say.

[Tamcia]

panchamkauns wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...
Why does BioWare refuse to answer this?

Because there’s nothing they can say that would make it better. They have nothing to say.

Yup. BW = Reapers.

No matter how hard we try here (just like in game), the outcome will stay the same - bad... 

[J5550123]

Sywen wrote...

The destination killed the journey.

Exactly.

[Ubergrog]

What would my shepard do?

look down at the "kid" and say "go **** yourself you juvenile minded construct. The Geth have proven to be more mature then you, and they have been around for only a few hundred years."

"Your childish 'rock,paper,scissors' mentality just shows you never had justification or reason to do what you did, just the power to prevent anyone from stopping you until now."

"What is my choice? None of the above. I am going to command the normandy to move in, pick me up, and then have the entire fleet fire upon the citidel. Since you just TOLD me you control the reapers, removing you should throw them into disarray. Sure it will take away the center of galactic politics, but if the geth can make a dyson sphere, we can probably make another citidel. When you die, it will throw the reapers into disarray, and give us the opportunity to wipe them out and regroup as needed.

To say it again, go **** yourself"


Insert awesome action moment as the Normandy flies up, picks up shepard, and all of the assembled fleets begin firing on the citidel. the final blow is caused by a kamakazi Batarian cruiser into the Crucible, piloted by our favorite terrorist from the first game, giving the reapers the finger as he goes.


Also, a touching moment as shepard is taken to the medical bay, the doc working furiously on him to stabilize him.  Another dream sequence, which is ended when shepard wakes up to the rising sun over Sol, and the last reaper getting shot to bits by the united fleet.  Love Interest (Liara in my case) walks in, barely able to hold herself/himself back from hugging you and re-shattering your ribcage. 

Dialogue "the war is far from over, but the enemy has lost it's center of operations. The fleets are united, ready and equipped with the knowledge that the enemy can be beaten. The power of the old(flash to Javik, Liara Garrus), young (flash to Krogan, Vega, Kaiden/Ashley ) and the new (flash to EDI and Quarian/geth) gives us hope of a new tomorrow without the reapers.  It is a long trek, but one we must fight to secure our future. The Battle of Sol gave us the one thing that no other cycle had.  Hope.

Epilogue.

Small asari/human child playing with a model of the Normandy in a grassy park.  Zooms out to see Shepard and LI sitting on a bench while holding a much younger second child.  Zooms out further to look up, a dome reveals a starry sky as the new citidel is being built with the aid of all of the races who helped fight. A tall monument displays the faces of all the races whom sacrificed their very existence to help save the galaxy, specifically the Batarians, Elcor and possibly Volus. 




Ta-da. Best ending ever.

Modifié par Ubergrog, 11 mars 2012 - 07:43 .

[Tony208]

There's a lot of people who haven't even reached the ending yet. But they'll get there eventually and they'll come to the same conclusion.