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[AlphaDormante]

Watched it. Then I looked up a video of Shepard killing Wrex after he found out about the sabotage and watched that, too. Then I watched all of the endings again.

Someone save me from my masochism.

[Phoenix_Fyre]

Oh my god.

[Viquey]

The only reason I could watch it all the way through was because I was paralyzed by shock. Oh, Mordin... I think that's worse than Tali's suicide/wiping out the Quarians, which is already horrendous. But... this still takes the cake for worst possible renegade action, in my book. Absolutely soul crushing. 

[Wattoes]

I would put down my xbox control and put blow my own f***ing head off if I did that.

No matter how renegade or evil I made a character, I could never do that.

[Khar-Goth]

Knight Terror wrote...

I don't understand how someone can write that scene. It was done SO well.

And then they wrote the ending.

Yeah... I just do not get that either.

Mordin's final moments Paragon or Renegade, Thane's final moments at his bedside with you and his son, and then...  Mini Space God's speech full of blatant contradictions of the story you just experienced and his magical blue, green and red lights of galactic problem solving.

How the hell do all of those come from the same writing team?

Going from heart-wrenching sadness all the way to stomach-nauseating WTF'ness in just a few hours.

Modifié par Khar-Goth, 11 mars 2012 - 08:14 .

[Fidget6]

Damn, that's almost as bad as letting Meredith kill Bethany in DA2.

[Ablaz3d]

Even worse

Modifié par Ablaz3d, 11 mars 2012 - 08:21 .

[metllicat12811]

if you look at it from the krogan way, then mordin does doserve to die. he helped improve the genophage. the salarians brought it on themselves. and the quarians ABSOLUTLEY deserved what they got. just like catalyst said, the created will eventually oppose the creator. quarians had it coming

[Mr. Gogeta34]

How evil this is stems on whether you agree with the Dalitrass or not. The Krogan breed rediculously fast and are violent by nature... they could absolutely overrun the galaxy if left unchecked.

Very extreme action though... and one I'd never do. Then again, I never believed a word Dalitrass said about them.

Modifié par Mr. Gogeta34, 11 mars 2012 - 08:28 .

[AlphaDormante]

I know at least the guy who wrote Mordin's death scene wasn't the same as the guy who wrote the endings. So...there's that.

[Tony208]

Ablaz3d wrote...



Even worse

pretty brutal as well
and some subtle ruthless voice acting too "I want OFF this planet"

[Valikdu]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Well think about it, they said 24 was one of their inspirations for writing Shepard.

That was about Alpha Protocol, not ME.

[CitizenSnips]

Painful just to watch.

I had to watch the Paragon choice just to cleanse my mind.

Modifié par mushoops86anjyl, 11 mars 2012 - 08:35 .

[Miktia]

I actually chose this action. Even more powerful considering I was otherwise full Paragon. /My/ Shep saw curing the Krogans as a repeat of the mistake. Raising them up for war. And they'd done nothing to redeem themselves in the mean-time. It was like... your best friend going to march off and save the worst army you could possibly imagine. You try to talk them out of it but then... you can't.

I'm not sure if its included in the video (I didn't click, as I'd gathered and already seen it) but theres a scene with Garrus and Joker right after where they're celebrating Mordin and the quiet emotion you get off Shepard is just... wow. Theres another conversation yet again with Garrus near the very end where you finally admit it... Also... wow.

Those three scenes? Probably the best in the whole game. Frankly, a lot of the character stuff was amazing really. Now if we could only improve the ME2-carried romances and the ending...

P.S. To those wondering, you can talk Mordin out of it you have Wreav instead of Wrex, or if Eve didn't make it. If you have them both, this is your only option.

Modifié par Miktia, 11 mars 2012 - 08:41 .

[Arios1570]

In the end, this is the most merciful way of helping the Krogan. If they're cured, they'll overpopulate the planet and die because no mass relays, no new colonies. Not enough people with ships are going to be willing to go, Wrex is on Earth, so new leadership, yeah, keep the genophage and at least they don't die off on an overcrowded world.

That shouldn't be true, but it is.

[Zulmoka531]

Arios1570 wrote...

In the end, this is the most merciful way of helping the Krogan. If they're cured, they'll overpopulate the planet and die because no mass relays, no new colonies. Not enough people with ships are going to be willing to go, Wrex is on Earth, so new leadership, yeah, keep the genophage and at least they don't die off on an overcrowded world.

That shouldn't be true, but it is.

We only really know that through spoilers or meta gaming though. Think about people who didn't know about the god awful endings.

"I killed Mordin? And it didn't matter? Nooooo"

[Chai Te]

metllicat12811 wrote...

if you look at it from the krogan way, then mordin does doserve to die. he helped improve the genophage. the salarians brought it on themselves. and the quarians ABSOLUTLEY deserved what they got. just like catalyst said, the created will eventually oppose the creator. quarians had it coming

While I agree the Quarians got what they deserved, I don't see this as proving the Reaper God-child right.  The geth only opposed their creators because the creators attacked them.  The early geth still wanted to serve.  The quarians tried to wipe them out and the geth defended themselves.  When the Quarians left/were no longer a threat, the geth let them go.

The renewed hostilies were started by the Quarians attacking first, again.

[Balmung31]

Delkarnu wrote...

I chose to cure the genophage, but part of me thought that Salarian help would be essential to the ending, making it a necessary to defeat the reapers. Do the moral thing and condemn all species for it, or be evil for the greater good, saving all races by sacrificing Krogans.

Would have sucked to do, but would have made some sense in the story, but the ending proved your choices don't matter

I still got Salarian aid despite curing the Genophage, thanks to saving their Councilor on the Citadel. 

So **** that Delatross! 

[Khar-Goth]

Balmung31 wrote...
I still got Salarian aid despite curing the Genophage, thanks to saving their Councilor on the Citadel. 

So **** that Delatross! 

If Kirahhe lived through Vermire in ME1, you get him and the STG as assets.
If you save the Salarian councilor on the Citadel, you get the Salarian 3rd Fleet.
If you betray the Krogan, you get the Salarian 1st Fleet.

Not sure on how the Krogan's work exactly as I like Mordin too much to want to actually follow that story path far enough to find out which, if any, Krogan assets you loose other than Wrex when he finds out and you have to put him down.

[Rafe34]

Does anyone have a vid where you don't tell Wrex about the genophage, then initially try to convince Mordin not to cure it, and then take the "I was wrong," option there at the end, which I assume lets him take it?

Mordin's death was powerfully written and well-done, one of the best scenes in the game. I cried a bit for him. It was just so perfect him curing the genophage and sacrificing his life to do it, and being so perfectly at peace with it that he was singing his silly little song to himself at the end.

How can someone write something that powerful, write something as awesome as the Garrus date on the citadel, heck his entire romance, and then turn around and give us that craptastic ending? I just don't get it.

[AlphaDormante]

Rafe34 wrote...

How can someone write something that powerful, write something as awesome as the Garrus date on the citadel, heck his entire romance, and then turn around and give us that craptastic ending? I just don't get it.

I'm fairly certain that Garrus was written by Patrick Weekes, who coincidentally, also did most of the writing for Mordin (including his death scene). The endings seemed to be handled by lead writer Mac Walters.

So, yeah, two entirely different people.

Modifié par AlphaDormante, 11 mars 2012 - 10:03 .

[Paragon_Sheppard]

I couldn't go passed the point where Shep pointed the gun at Mordin. His death was sad enough the cure way.

I am the very model of a --

Too sad.

[twisty77]

BHynes92 wrote...

After all the horribly evil things I've heard about the various renegade choices in ME3 I'm not looking forward to my true renegade playthrough... oooh, i'm gonna need some kleenex:crying:

This.

I have one pure renegade playthrough. Completely xenophobic, killed off all aliens in the SM (except Mordin, though not for lack of effort), and did everything renegade. Man it's gonna be tough to play that one.

On another note, I started my second playthrough today: FemShep renegade. I'm gonna try and go all the way through that scene and then not pull the trigger at the end with the renegade interrupt.

[kevchy]

Shooting an old friend in the back. classy.