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Just Out OF Curiosity Has Any One From Bio Ware Commented On the Backlash Over The Ending


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While they seem intent on waiting for more people to play, I don't know that it is wise to wait much longer. There are always people that wait to get games for various reasons, and if they find out what we already know, they might very well skip this game. There are also rumblings of people thinking they'll just go ahead and trade their games. I know that one of the devs said that what they have planned will make us want to keep our games forever, but they don't have forever to convince people that such is the case.

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killnoob wrote...

They probably have a plan though.

As much as I hate the ending, I still have faith in bioware writers. Most of the time they delivers so there must be a real ending but they're not telling until everyone's done with the game.


You do know most of the writers from one and two, did not work on 3 right?

I respect your opinion, but your faith is misplaced based on the better writers of the past. Especially.
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Wait, Shepard's armor really changes between the platforms? I'll need to check that. I can't imagine that happening by *accident*, in which case we've just been fooled so hardcore that I need to sit down and re-evaluate my life.

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It's suppose to be the same armor Shepard had on it just got badly damaged from the reaper attack that knocked him/her out

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VerdantSF wrote...

t1striker wrote...

shep not wearing his armor when he gets up...

I was so wrapped up in the impending doom, I totally missed that detail!


Shep is still wearing their armor. It's just burned and broken from the beam.    

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Tamcia wrote...

t1striker wrote...

Indoctrination(dream) after getting hit by the reapers laser is flooding the forums and from thinking about it and all the evidence it might be true. they were teasing indoctrination thoughout the whole game(remember the geth interface how shep would imagine things like the gun), and then the kid in all the dreams ends up as the catylist, shep not wearing his armor when he gets up, gun not running out of ammo, anderson ahead of shep, the tim ending up just like saren, and in only one "ending" shep wakes up in rubble on earth(my assumption). it just seems to add up into a dream(indocrination). and if im right what a brilliant freaking ending.


This makes sense. It absolutely makes sense!!! Since Shep main attrtibute was his Will, Reapers tried to break it by allowing him to think he completed the mission! 


Especially since you beat the game and it takes you back before the cerberus base.
Regardless they have pissed so many people off, I doubut it will matter.
If it is true they will plan on charging, but even if the indoctrination is true the ending still sucked.
The problem is, the god child would most likely still be in it.
I went to replay the game, to see if the kid was in the vents so I could shoot at him.
No such luck.
I have nothing against kids, just fictional children composed of light that ruin my game experience and series experience for that matter.

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t1striker wrote...

Indoctrination(dream) after getting hit by the reapers laser is flooding the forums and from thinking about it and all the evidence it might be true. they were teasing indoctrination thoughout the whole game(remember the geth interface how shep would imagine things like the gun), and then the kid in all the dreams ends up as the catylist, shep not wearing his armor when he gets up, gun not running out of ammo, anderson ahead of shep, the tim ending up just like saren, and in only one "ending" destroying all synthetic life shep wakes up in rubble on earth(my assumption). it just seems to add up into a dream(indocrination). and if im right what a brilliant freaking ending.


that would seriously be epic.  the problem is bioware has already stated pre-release that there will be no postgame dlc.  do we really think that this statement was a ruse and they've planned a dlc ending all along?  i highly doubt that.  

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They're not going to admit they're wrong. They're waiting for the full world release so they can spout some bull about us moaning, being the minority.

If they admit they ****ed up, it'll be all over the internet making them look incompetent.

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eternalYouth304 wrote...

t1striker wrote...

Indoctrination(dream) after getting hit by the reapers laser is flooding the forums and from thinking about it and all the evidence it might be true. they were teasing indoctrination thoughout the whole game(remember the geth interface how shep would imagine things like the gun), and then the kid in all the dreams ends up as the catylist, shep not wearing his armor when he gets up, gun not running out of ammo, anderson ahead of shep, the tim ending up just like saren, and in only one "ending" destroying all synthetic life shep wakes up in rubble on earth(my assumption). it just seems to add up into a dream(indocrination). and if im right what a brilliant freaking ending.


that would seriously be epic.  the problem is bioware has already stated pre-release that there will be no postgame dlc.  do we really think that this statement was a ruse and they've planned a dlc ending all along?  i highly doubt that.  


On IGN there was a leak, the company had begun work on Mass Effect 4, then it turned out to be DLC, as bioware cleared it up.
Also if you beat the game it clearly said, blahblah blah shepard legend, he can now play DLC.

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eternalYouth304 wrote...
  the problem is bioware has already stated pre-release that there will be no postgame dlc 


Really? Do you have a source? Not that I don't believe you, I'd just like to read it. That's certainly discouraging. It could change once they see the outrage of their fanbase, but they really didn't have any plans for post-game DLC? That's such a shame in itself. Lair of the Shadow Broker was easily one of the best experiences in ME2.

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If it was indoctrination, at least the DLC could provide a new end/epilogue. I hope Bioware was just being too clever for their own good.

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eternalYouth304 wrote...

that would seriously be epic.  the problem is bioware has already stated pre-release that there will be no postgame dlc.  do we really think that this statement was a ruse and they've planned a dlc ending all along?  i highly doubt that.  


Hey, they've already lied about everything else.

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realpokerjedi wrote...

eternalYouth304 wrote...

t1striker wrote...

Indoctrination(dream) after getting hit by the reapers laser is flooding the forums and from thinking about it and all the evidence it might be true. they were teasing indoctrination thoughout the whole game(remember the geth interface how shep would imagine things like the gun), and then the kid in all the dreams ends up as the catylist, shep not wearing his armor when he gets up, gun not running out of ammo, anderson ahead of shep, the tim ending up just like saren, and in only one "ending" destroying all synthetic life shep wakes up in rubble on earth(my assumption). it just seems to add up into a dream(indocrination). and if im right what a brilliant freaking ending.


that would seriously be epic.  the problem is bioware has already stated pre-release that there will be no postgame dlc.  do we really think that this statement was a ruse and they've planned a dlc ending all along?  i highly doubt that.  


On IGN there was a leak, the company had begun work on Mass Effect 4, then it turned out to be DLC, as bioware cleared it up.
Also if you beat the game it clearly said, blahblah blah shepard legend, he can now play DLC.


i'm not sure exactly sure what that has to do with postgame dlc.  could you elaborate a bit more, please?  if you're just refering to dlc in general, yes of course Shepard is playable in that regard, but i was talking about the possibility of the ending changing with new dlc, which bioware has said won't happen. 

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taylortexas wrote...

eternalYouth304 wrote...
  the problem is bioware has already stated pre-release that there will be no postgame dlc 


Really? Do you have a source? Not that I don't believe you, I'd just like to read it. That's certainly discouraging. It could change once they see the outrage of their fanbase, but they really didn't have any plans for post-game DLC? That's such a shame in itself. Lair of the Shadow Broker was easily one of the best experiences in ME2.


i've read it more than once.  i'm sure if you do a google search something will pop up.  and yes it most certainly could change, but we're going to have to wait and see if that pans out. 

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I've tried to ask on general forum but some dude locked my topic. seems my money is not good enough for both game and customer service. I think here's the last product of EA\\Bioware I'll ever purchase.

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AlphaDormante wrote...

eternalYouth304 wrote...

that would seriously be epic.  the problem is bioware has already stated pre-release that there will be no postgame dlc.  do we really think that this statement was a ruse and they've planned a dlc ending all along?  i highly doubt that.  


Hey, they've already lied about everything else.


what's discouraging to everyone (us and them) is that i honestly don't think they think they've lied about anything.  they're probably very pleased with the game (as they should be.  it's FANTASTIC sans a few minutes).  and really, 'lied' is probably too strong of a word.  i honestly believe they had absolutely no idea this would be the reaction.  it's a shame.  hopefully this can be rectified in some manner.

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eternalYouth304 wrote...

taylortexas wrote...

eternalYouth304 wrote...
  the problem is bioware has already stated pre-release that there will be no postgame dlc 


Really? Do you have a source? Not that I don't believe you, I'd just like to read it. That's certainly discouraging. It could change once they see the outrage of their fanbase, but they really didn't have any plans for post-game DLC? That's such a shame in itself. Lair of the Shadow Broker was easily one of the best experiences in ME2.


i've read it more than once.  i'm sure if you do a google search something will pop up.  and yes it most certainly could change, but we're going to have to wait and see if that pans out. 


and to make this clear, this was said WELL before the release of the game and, obviously, before the reaction of the fanbase.  

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eternalYouth304 wrote...

AlphaDormante wrote...

eternalYouth304 wrote...

that would seriously be epic.  the problem is bioware has already stated pre-release that there will be no postgame dlc.  do we really think that this statement was a ruse and they've planned a dlc ending all along?  i highly doubt that.  


Hey, they've already lied about everything else.


what's discouraging to everyone (us and them) is that i honestly don't think they think they've lied about anything.  they're probably very pleased with the game (as they should be.  it's FANTASTIC sans a few minutes).  and really, 'lied' is probably too strong of a word.  i honestly believe they had absolutely no idea this would be the reaction.  it's a shame.  hopefully this can be rectified in some manner.


Yeah, you're probably right; I'm just a bit cranky at the moment. I'm actually rather empathetic towards the situation of the writers right now. But a lot of us DO feel hurt and betrayed, and the only way for them to really fix this would be to do something they already said they wouldn't.

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I wish to believe the indoctrination theory, I hope that it is true, and that if Shepard stays true to what has been his driving force since discovering the reapers, and that is to destroy them, you wake up in the rubble strewn mess that might well be where Harbinger brought down his wrath.

IF this is the case, and the last 5 minutes was Shepard fighting against the indoctrination, and the true ending is secreted away on BWs servers, awaiting the games global release and maybe another week to allow as many people as possible to get to that point, then kudos to BW for one of the most memorable deceptions of all time.
I honestly dont believe that they could script such an emotional monstrosity, and I was close to tears far to many times, to just give it such a hopeless finale. The scriptwriters would be furious, and rightly so, having worked so hard to get you there, they just take it all back and say it was a waste of time, the future is hopeless.

If it is not, then I will never look to BW or EA for my gaming fix again.

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Something tells me that BioWare did give us a serious twist at the end and we are about to be told soon. I believe the indoctrination theory. What makes Shepard immune to indoctrination given that he has been in constant contact with them.

The better question is... do the reapers win then?

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