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[Harbinger of your Destiny]

The reapers are enemies that impale victims on a robo pike that turns the corpse into a litteral monster. They then raid a monastary of Ardakt Yakcshi who just want to be left alone specifically to turn them into nightmare fuel. And shepard thinks that the options given to him by the person in charge of this is are on the up and up. I think it was at this point my confusion turned to pure blinding rage.

[The Angry One]

Idiot Child: "Everything that the Reapers do must be done because I say so."

Shepard: "Durrr ok."

[Greed1914]

There are any number of things that Shepard should have at least been able to say. There is what you've suggested. There is also the fallacy of the premise of the cycle in light of the Geth and Quarian peace. None of it mattered because the child lives in a bubble away from everything else.

[Leafs43]

Because whatever came out of the kid's mouth makes no sense and runs counter to all evidence prior to him opening his mouth.

[wetnasty]

That whole blasted by a laser/beaten to a pulp/waking up being spoken to by a cloudy figure thing would make me just want to go with the flow as well tbh. Can't fault Shep there.

[The Angry One]

wetnasty wrote...

That whole blasted by a laser/beaten to a pulp/waking up being spoken to by a cloudy figure thing would make me just want to go with the flow as well tbh. Can't fault Shep there.

It'd make a normal person go with the flow.
Shepard is not a normal person. Shepard. Would not. Give up.

[kevchy]

I just cannot fathom why EDI, the peace between the Geth and the Quarians, cannot be cited as proof to the catalyst why organics and synthetics can co-exist peacefully.

[LotharanAeron]

I found it even more crazy because just a minute earlier with The Illusive Man, Anderson tells him that "there is always another way", which has rather been the sentiment of the heroes through the entire series. There are other examples of dialogue given during the last leg of the game that prove Shepard would never give in to the star-child-thing. It is as if the writers of the game were told they worked on it enough and some random person came up with the star-child scenario and the three endings without looking at the rest of the game or even the series.

[RxP4IN]

The Angry One wrote...

Idiot Child: "Everything that the Reapers do must be done because I say so."

Shepard: "Durrr ok."

And therein lies the problem with the auto-dialogue that was bothering me all game. But then again, the catalyst plot should never have seen the light of day.

[Citizen Q]

Bad writing is the answer to your question.

They railroaded Shepard, and through Shepard, the player, into trusting a mega-genocidal little douchebag monster and just going along with whatever he tells you in order to force some kind of contrived emotional connection, as though we had no emotional connections to the game up until that point.

I was terrified when Ash was almost killed by EVA on Mars.

I shouted with joy as Kalros killed that Reaper on Tuchanka.

I almost cried when Mordin sacrificed himself while humming his little song to cure the genophage.

I felt Honored when Wrex called me his Brother.

I raged at Kai Leng when he stabbed Thane and got away, then I actually DID cry when Thane prayed for Shepard as he died.

But the only emotion that they dragged out of me with that contrived "choice" at the end was fury at Bioware for ruining what was one of the best games I had ever played up until that point.

Modifié par Citizen Q, 11 mars 2012 - 08:45 .

[GoblinSapper]

Citizen Q wrote...

Bad writing is the answer to your question.

They railroaded Shepard, and through Shepard, the player, into trusting a mega-genocidal little douchebag monster and just going along with whatever he tells you in order to force some kind of contrived emotional connection, as though we had no emotional connections to the game up until that point.

I was terrified when Ash was almost killed be EVA on Mars.

I shouted with joy as Kalros killed that Reaper on Tuchanka.

I almost cried when Mordin sacrificed himself while humming his little song to cure the genophage.

I felt Honored when Wrex called me his Brother.

I raged at Kai Leng when he stabbed Thane and got away, then I actually DID cry as Thane prayed for Shepard as he died.

But the only emotion that they dragged out of me with that contrived "choice" at the end was fury at Bioware for ruining what was one of the best games I had ever played up until that point.

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I would like to state that your emergent experiance was analogous to mine.

Tl;Dr, Motto.

[Lyrandori]

LotharanAeron wrote...

I found it even more crazy because just a minute earlier with The Illusive Man, Anderson tells him that "there is always another way", which has rather been the sentiment of the heroes through the entire series. There are other examples of dialogue given during the last leg of the game that prove Shepard would never give in to the star-child-thing. It is as if the writers of the game were told they worked on it enough and some random person came up with the star-child scenario and the three endings without looking at the rest of the game or even the series.

Indeed, that's also what Harbinger itself, a Reaper, says word-by-word at the end of ME2 to the Collector: « You have failed. We will find another way. »

[Almostfaceman]

Citizen Q wrote...

Bad writing is the answer to your question.

They railroaded Shepard, and through Shepard, the player, into trusting a mega-genocidal little douchebag monster and just going along with whatever he tells you in order to force some kind of contrived emotional connection, as though we had no emotional connections to the game up until that point.

I was terrified when Ash was almost killed be EVA on Mars.

I shouted with joy as Kalros killed that Reaper on Tuchanka.

I almost cried when Mordin sacrificed himself while humming his little song to cure the genophage.

I felt Honored when Wrex called me his Brother.

I raged at Kai Leng when he stabbed Thane and got away, then I actually DID cry as Thane prayed for Shepard as he died.

But the only emotion that they dragged out of me with that contrived "choice" at the end was fury at Bioware for ruining what was one of the best games I had ever played up until that point.

 

Wow. Someone needs to email this to Mac. Short, sweet, powerful, to the point, and right.

[killnoob]

Citizen Q wrote...

Bad writing is the answer to your question.

They railroaded Shepard, and through Shepard, the player, into trusting a mega-genocidal little douchebag monster and just going along with whatever he tells you in order to force some kind of contrived emotional connection, as though we had no emotional connections to the game up until that point.

I was terrified when Ash was almost killed be EVA on Mars.

I shouted with joy as Kalros killed that Reaper on Tuchanka.

I almost cried when Mordin sacrificed himself while humming his little song to cure the genophage.

I felt Honored when Wrex called me his Brother.

I raged at Kai Leng when he stabbed Thane and got away, then I actually DID cry as Thane prayed for Shepard as he died.

But the only emotion that they dragged out of me with that contrived "choice" at the end was fury at Bioware for ruining what was one of the best games I had ever played up until that point.

Epic post is epic.

[Citizen Q]

Almostfaceman wrote...

Citizen Q wrote...

Bad writing is the answer to your question.

They railroaded Shepard, and through Shepard, the player, into trusting a mega-genocidal little douchebag monster and just going along with whatever he tells you in order to force some kind of contrived emotional connection, as though we had no emotional connections to the game up until that point.

I was terrified when Ash was almost killed be EVA on Mars.

I shouted with joy as Kalros killed that Reaper on Tuchanka.

I almost cried when Mordin sacrificed himself while humming his little song to cure the genophage.

I felt Honored when Wrex called me his Brother.

I raged at Kai Leng when he stabbed Thane and got away, then I actually DID cry as Thane prayed for Shepard as he died.

But the only emotion that they dragged out of me with that contrived "choice" at the end was fury at Bioware for ruining what was one of the best games I had ever played up until that point.

 

Wow. Someone needs to email this to Mac. Short, sweet, powerful, to the point, and right.

Feel free to do so if you want, I am so dissapointed with the whole situation I just had to get that off my chest.

Really hope that all the talk on these forums and across the net gets something done, but I am doubtful given Bioware's current trends.

[FoxShadowblade]

Why? Because Bioware are all BIG, STUPID JELLYFISHES.

[Citizen Q]

Nice

[corporal doody]

why did shep take god-kid's every word at face value? no questions what so ever. Just quick...Yeah. Okay. Uh-huh.


Me thinks something foul is afoot on the Citadel.

[AxisEvolve]

Loss of blood/weariness/dying/dreaming/hallucinating/plotholes

[Greed1914]

Citizen Q wrote...

Bad writing is the answer to your question.

They railroaded Shepard, and through Shepard, the player, into trusting a mega-genocidal little douchebag monster and just going along with whatever he tells you in order to force some kind of contrived emotional connection, as though we had no emotional connections to the game up until that point.

I was terrified when Ash was almost killed by EVA on Mars.

I shouted with joy as Kalros killed that Reaper on Tuchanka.

I almost cried when Mordin sacrificed himself while humming his little song to cure the genophage.

I felt Honored when Wrex called me his Brother.

I raged at Kai Leng when he stabbed Thane and got away, then I actually DID cry when Thane prayed for Shepard as he died.

But the only emotion that they dragged out of me with that contrived "choice" at the end was fury at Bioware for ruining what was one of the best games I had ever played up until that point.

I was pretty much the same.  I had the intended emotional reactions throughout.  I had exactly the opposite reaction that I should have had in the end.  

[Phydeaux314]

I'm still upset with the ending, but keep in mind that Shepard is pretty much dying of blood loss and shock by this point. I'll forgive not thinking clearly.

[Diego L7D]

This should have been the dialogue:

Reaper God Child: "Everything that the Reapers do must be done because I say so."

Shepard: "Yeah, well, you know that's just like.. ahh your opinion, man"

[Starspiral]

Citizen Q wrote...

Bad writing is the answer to your question.

They railroaded Shepard, and through Shepard, the player, into trusting a mega-genocidal little douchebag monster and just going along with whatever he tells you in order to force some kind of contrived emotional connection, as though we had no emotional connections to the game up until that point.

I was terrified when Ash was almost killed by EVA on Mars.

I shouted with joy as Kalros killed that Reaper on Tuchanka.

I almost cried when Mordin sacrificed himself while humming his little song to cure the genophage.

I felt Honored when Wrex called me his Brother.

I raged at Kai Leng when he stabbed Thane and got away, then I actually DID cry when Thane prayed for Shepard as he died.

But the only emotion that they dragged out of me with that contrived "choice" at the end was fury at Bioware for ruining what was one of the best games I had ever played up until that point.

QFT

This game made me laugh and cry more than any other game has ever done (I'm nearly 60 and have been playing video games for around 30 years, so I have played a few) - but the ending of this one just left me feeling betrayed.

Before these endings I was thinking how amazing a combined edition would be - with all 3 games and all the dlc in one box set - and I would have bought it without any reservations.... but not now Bioware, not now.

[Dreogan]

Because he broke character.