In the art book it shows his final form as a synthetic parallel to the brute unit, and this is not his finalized appearance in our current content. Does this allude and maybe hint at bioware has locked content for us for some weird PR stunt? and the game we currently have is largely incomplete?
Just a thought I had when reading my artbook.
What of the Illusive Man?
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Gowienczyk
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Posté 11 mars 2012 - 08:28
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Did you read the blurb in the artbook? It's laughable.
"We were originally going with this, but then we wanted the fans to confront something they knew rather than some unknown creature from nowhere."
I swear this is outright trolling. How do we not know TIM? How to we know the damn god child?
"We were originally going with this, but then we wanted the fans to confront something they knew rather than some unknown creature from nowhere."
I swear this is outright trolling. How do we not know TIM? How to we know the damn god child?
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Posté 11 mars 2012 - 08:29
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That might just have been conceptual art that ended up not being used. His final form does seem to suggest some synthetic modifications. But he ends up not being a "boss fight" in the conventional sense, but more of a dialogue villain - which is actually fitting. It's the Illusive Man's ideas that are more of an enemy than the person himself.
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Posté 11 mars 2012 - 08:30
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The Angry One wrote...
I swear this is outright trolling. How do we not know TIM? How to we know the damn god child?
From DA:O? Morrigan? Sorry couldn't resist.
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Posté 11 mars 2012 - 08:31
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That was when they haven't fully iron out the final fights.
Well, instead we can actually talk Martin Sheen to end himself...
Well, instead we can actually talk Martin Sheen to end himself...
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Posté 11 mars 2012 - 08:31
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I'm still holding onto the thought that there will be extension where this is used, and this is their attempt at throwing people off for reading a leaked script. It might be naive hope, but I feel its the only thing that makes sense to me (in combination with some other ideas).
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Posté 11 mars 2012 - 08:34
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TIM never got physically involved in anything so why would he begin now. That would be out of character. Can't say the same for some other characters but they got him right.
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Posté 11 mars 2012 - 08:34
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Tony208 wrote...
TIM never got physically involved in anything so why would he begin now. That would be out of character. Can't say the same for some other characters but they got him right.
Indoctrination, Reaper Modifications. So no, it would not be out of character.
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Posté 11 mars 2012 - 08:35
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Him killing himself was enough of a Saren 2.0 moment. If he turned into a machine husk after that I would have just turned off my console.
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Posté 11 mars 2012 - 08:36
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Keep in mind that a lot of it conceptual art, as is usually the case with any sort of art book. At some point they may have thought of using The Illusive Man as a final boss fight, but opted out for the portrayal we now know. I'm glad that they did. TIM would never hold his own against Shepard, for he's just a simple man. TIM was always about resources and implementing those to achieve something. Kai Leng is much more fitting (albeit a bit one-dimensional) as a physical adversary that you actually have to fight.
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Posté 11 mars 2012 - 08:41
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I think we can take the artbook at its word that this is simply an unused concept that's never going to see the light of development (well, maybe it will for some other character, but not the Illusive Man).Gowienczyk wrote...
In the art book it shows his final form as a synthetic parallel to the brute unit, and this is not his finalized appearance in our current content. Does this allude and maybe hint at bioware has locked content for us for some weird PR stunt? and the game we currently have is largely incomplete?
Just a thought I had when reading my artbook.
The idea of TIM turning into a big hulking brute just doesn't seem right anyway, even if it does remind me of Batman: Arkham Asylum if you know what i mean.
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Posté 11 mars 2012 - 08:43
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I wouldnt mind it; if this theory of "they didnt release the actual ending on disc" is correct, just thought it was an interesting thought to mention.
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Posté 11 mars 2012 - 08:44
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The Angry One wrote...
Did you read the blurb in the artbook? It's laughable.
"We were originally going with this, but then we wanted the fans to confront something they knew rather than some unknown creature from nowhere."
I swear this is outright trolling. How do we not know TIM? How to we know the damn god child?
I believe what they meant was instead of confonting a meaningless boss made up of basic enemies, they wanted you to fight TIM instead, not that we don't know who he is.
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Posté 11 mars 2012 - 09:35
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AxisEvolve wrote...
Him killing himself was enough of a Saren 2.0 moment. If he turned into a machine husk after that I would have just turned off my console.
The whole thing is all too similar, not just shooting himself. Basically the difference is going on about control instead submitting and being useful, and shooting him inside the conversation instead of a boss fight if you don't make him kill himself. He's still just an indoctrinated slave.It's a big waste of an amazing character IMO.
I blame the development budget and/or time though, not really BioWare. As you go towards the end it becomes increasingly clear they stop keeping up with the choices and make it more generic. Even simple things like dlc armor reverting to basic N7 armor when damaged seem to indicate this.
Unless of course the dream/hallucination theory people keep bringing up is correct:blink:
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Posté 11 mars 2012 - 05:34
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Tony208 wrote...
TIM never got physically involved in anything so why would he begin now. That would be out of character. Can't say the same for some other characters but they got him right.
Actually he did, back when he was not yet as "The Illusive Man", he made a contact with a Reaper artifact that, while he didn't turned into husks like the others, that's where he got that freaky eyes. Probably his indoctrination began there.
And like the Prothean VI Vendetta said, in all cycles there're always those who thought they could manipulate Reapers into their service, thus foil any unifying effort to succeed, guess that's where TIM fits in.
