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MrIllusion

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Despite the reception towards the ending, I get the feeling that there is a specific purpose behind how the ending played out.

If you look at it from a business perspective, Mass Effect is Bioware's flagship title, and it has been mentioned many times that while ME3 is the end of Shepards story, it is not the end of the franchise. However, the entirety of Mass Effect's lore is built on the premise that Mass Effect technology exists, and it is this technology that allows interstellar space travel.

Now if we think about all the possible endings, they all have one thing in common. The Mass Relays are always destroyed.

Without this singularity of events, it becomes problematic for future titles. Titles set after the events of ME3 must take into account the fate of interstellar travel (unless Bioware only intends to make prequels from now on).

So here comes the question:

How do you think they will make interstellar travel possible?


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Sweawm

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New Relays can be created of course, Ilos proved this. Otherwise, civilization can always go back to working on and improving FTL Technology.

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They have stated several times that Shepherds story ends here. I read this as, the series ends here. This is it. Full stop. There are no plans to continue a Mass Effect franchise.

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Sweawm wrote...

New Relays can be created of course, Ilos proved this. Otherwise, civilization can always go back to working on and improving FTL Technology.



YUP....and ALL the greatest scientific minds in the galaxy are in one place....SAFE. The team that built the crucible.

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Hell they can even bring Shepard back if they want to based on the way the game ended in the destruction decision.

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GoblinSapper wrote...

They have stated several times that Shepherds story ends here. I read this as, the series ends here. This is it. Full stop. There are no plans to continue a Mass Effect franchise.


Too much money to be had.

When there's money to be had, I guarantee EA will exploit the living hell out of it.

Look what Microsoft did with Halo.

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GoblinSapper wrote...

They have stated several times that Shepherds story ends here. I read this as, the series ends here. This is it. Full stop. There are no plans to continue a Mass Effect franchise.


Previous articles on Mass Effect with Bioware devs have said ME won't be the end of it's lore/universe. One even said he wished to do an MMO a few years down the line with it.

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Sweawm wrote...

New Relays can be created of course, Ilos proved this. Otherwise, civilization can always go back to working on and improving FTL Technology.


It took their best scientists and resources a massive amount of time to make one relay. Which connected to an existing relay.
Even if they managed to build two, how are they going to get the destination relay in place without waiting several lifetimes?

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I have seen several articles mention more Mass Effect after ME3, and, as for the interstellar travel, the ships still have their internal 'slow' FTL drives. Travel would take longer, but with fuel depots spread out they could get to all the same places.

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Where do they get the fuel though.

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Gowienczyk wrote...

GoblinSapper wrote...

They have stated several times that Shepherds story ends here. I read this as, the series ends here. This is it. Full stop. There are no plans to continue a Mass Effect franchise.


Previous articles on Mass Effect with Bioware devs have said ME won't be the end of it's lore/universe. One even said he wished to do an MMO a few years down the line with it.


Ah? On the one hand I am glad. Well, I would've been.

About when I ended the Geth/Quarian war I thought, man, this would be a great universe for an MMO. I wanna play a Geth Prime!

And then those endings happened and ruined it all.

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thoaloa wrote...

Where do they get the fuel though.


Same places they do now.

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The Angry One wrote...

Sweawm wrote...

New Relays can be created of course, Ilos proved this. Otherwise, civilization can always go back to working on and improving FTL Technology.


It took their best scientists and resources a massive amount of time to make one relay. Which connected to an existing relay.
Even if they managed to build two, how are they going to get the destination relay in place without waiting several lifetimes?

The same way you launch satellites :) In space all you need is motion, now it would probably take a hundred years for the relay to reach its destination, but it's better than nothing.

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if they don't change the endings new relays and a new citadel would be nice. would take a bagillion years to set it up the way ti was though. meaning any sequels will have to be in the far flung future. which makes sense given the after credits movie. but if that's what they wanna do they need to show it in the ending not leave it wide open with a million lose ends.

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Mmm.

Assuming they're not playing fast and loose with the lore, crossing the entire galaxy at FTL speeds (without using a relay) takes about 27.5 years if you cut straight through the center. More realistically, getting from edge to edge would take about 30-35 years since you can't go through the center. It's about four years from Earth to Thessia, a little bit less from Earth to Tuchanka. The Quarian homeworld is about 20-25 years away. Turian homeworld is even closer, about two years.

Rebuilding a relay network will take years, but not insurmountable ones.

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You're forgetting the massive amounts of fuel it takes to power shipboard FTL drives, fuel they no longer have steady access to.

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My expert opinion? ....IT'S BONED.

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corporal doody wrote...

Sweawm wrote...

New Relays can be created of course, Ilos proved this. Otherwise, civilization can always go back to working on and improving FTL Technology.



YUP....and ALL the greatest scientific minds in the galaxy are in one place....SAFE. The team that built the crucible.


Oh yeah this didn't occur to me. There's a lot of potential in this.

Probably won't happen in Shepard's lifetime (or whoever survived). But maybe 1000 years into the future, they could change the focus from Mass Relays to Mini Relays :D

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Gowienczyk wrote...

GoblinSapper wrote...

They have stated several times that Shepherds story ends here. I read this as, the series ends here. This is it. Full stop. There are no plans to continue a Mass Effect franchise.


Previous articles on Mass Effect with Bioware devs have said ME won't be the end of it's lore/universe. One even said he wished to do an MMO a few years down the line with it.


They also said our choices would account for something and we'd get to see them come to frution. Did we? Oh, my bad, I forgot about my readiness bar.

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another thing:

we got lots of dead Reaper, we can extract their longer FTL jump technology

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well re enabling and rebuilding of relays is fairly possible. when a new sol realy is built line it up activate it and shoot the oppostie relay trough. the crusible enegniers where ever they are are allready on it

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Darthdoot wrote...

thoaloa wrote...

Where do they get the fuel though.


Same places they do now.


First off, the way travel is depicted in the game isnt even how its described in the codex, ship are supposed to dump their drive core charge via a lighting rod type device into the ground (assuming they land) or into the magnestosphere of a planet.

There is no Fuel involved.

Secondly,  quoted from the ingame codex  "Mass relays are feats of Prothean
engineering advanced far beyond the technology of any living species.
They are enormous structures scattered throughout the stars, and can
create corridors of virtually mass-free space allowing instantaneous
transit between locations separated by years or even centuries of travel
using conventional
FTL drives.
" (Emphasis added.)

The Mass Relays provide a means of getting place to place in decent time. the fact is to rebuild the network, assuming the people can overcome the engineering and manufacturing difficultie, it could take centuaries to rebuild the network, if at all.

The destruction of the Mass Relays is huge blow to the galaxy and galactic civilization.


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or they could just feed the stragglers left on earth cincinnati chili. plenty of gas there.

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Exeider wrote...

Darthdoot wrote...

thoaloa wrote...

Where do they get the fuel though.


Same places they do now.


First off, the way travel is depicted in the game isnt even how its described in the codex, ship are supposed to dump their drive core charge via a lighting rod type device into the ground (assuming they land) or into the magnestosphere of a planet.

There is no Fuel involved.

Secondly,  quoted from the ingame codex  "Mass relays are feats of Prothean
engineering advanced far beyond the technology of any living species.
They are enormous structures scattered throughout the stars, and can
create corridors of virtually mass-free space allowing instantaneous
transit between locations separated by years or even centuries of travel
using conventional
FTL drives.
" (Emphasis added.)

The Mass Relays provide a means of getting place to place in decent time. the fact is to rebuild the network, assuming the people can overcome the engineering and manufacturing difficultie, it could take centuaries to rebuild the network, if at all.

The destruction of the Mass Relays is huge blow to the galaxy and galactic civilization.


Like I said, travel would take a lot longer then it used to, but as someone pointed out earlier, there are tons of reaper remains all over the Sol system now, and the Reapers got from dark space to the edge of the galaxy in a few months, maybe less. If that tech can be reverse engineered then you can easily get a galaxy spanning civilization up and running pretty quickly.

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missing the big point, from what we've seen from Arrival, when a Mass Relay is destroyed it goes super nova, every mass relay in the galaxy was just destroyed... 'fraid there's no one left alive to worry about space travel now.. :(

Modifié par Reapers killed my dog, 11 mars 2012 - 09:19 .