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[Serendipity999]

I'll admit, I had very low hopes going into ME3 after the....disappointment of DA 2.  However, ME 3 has been one of the best gaming experiences I've ever encountered.    After the way DA 2 ended I was expecting the worst but, having finished ME 3 a few hours ago I was quite surprised.   Great game, awesome ending.  Thank you.   Don't mind the haters.

[dakka dakka]

just out of curiosity, how do you consider the ending great?

was the destruction of galactic civilization a victory?

[Evil_medved]

DA 2 was great, just hated by silly oldfarts who can't accept change.

ME3 was epic, up to last 5 minutes. Is not about hate, its about ~6 major plotholes which are impossible to explain.

Modifié par Evil_medved, 11 mars 2012 - 10:22 .

[SLPr0]

dakka dakka wrote...

just out of curiosity, how do you consider the ending great?

was the destruction of galactic civilization a victory?

This post was a fish hook. Best to just ignore it.

Anyone who hated how DA2 ended could not have possibly accepted this.

[dakka dakka]

SLPr0 wrote...

dakka dakka wrote...

just out of curiosity, how do you consider the ending great?

was the destruction of galactic civilization a victory?

This post was a fish hook. Best to just ignore it.

Anyone who hated how DA2 ended could not have possibly accepted this.

not a fish hook. Just honestly baffled and want to hear a coherent response other than "Ending is great! Suck it haters!" real mature 

[dakka dakka]

delete double post

Modifié par dakka dakka, 11 mars 2012 - 10:27 .

[The Angry One]

Gotta love the BioWare White Knights.
You aren't helping BioWare you know, nor yourselves.

[jada_pinkett]

I loved the ending too. Leaving it open to interpretation. Also just because its not a happy ending and as dakka says "the destruction of a galactic civilization" doesnt mean its not a good ending. People are wierd.

[dakka dakka]

jada_pinkett wrote...

I loved the ending too. Leaving it open to interpretation. Also just because its not a happy ending and as dakka says "the destruction of a galactic civilization" doesnt mean its not a good ending. People are wierd.

while I can accept sad and tragic endings, If the entire galaxy got destroyed to make way for new life I would be upset of course but I could accept the ending.

Instead we don't have any real resolution as to what happened. Just some vague images. How is this a good ending if it doesn't resolve anything?

Remember, this was supposed to tie up loose ends and be a final game for the series......we didn't get that.

[SLPr0]

jada_pinkett wrote...

I loved the ending too. Leaving it open to interpretation. Also just because its not a happy ending and as dakka says "the destruction of a galactic civilization" doesnt mean its not a good ending. People are wierd.

Lets put it in more real world terms.

Its not the "destruction of a galactic civilization" as much as its the "destruction of an extremely compelling and lucrative science fiction intellectual property that is far more deserving of sequalization than most of the crap churned out with a 2/3/4 at the end of its name these days."

This ending didn't just "destroy the galaxy" it does, for all intents and purposes, end Mass Effect, as a franchise, because everything that made Mass Effect what it was, is no longer plot viable.

[United_Strafes]

Nice troll thread, I feel for ya if you actually believe the ending was great, extremely low standards.

[Ranicus56]

Hell i liked the way DA2 ended but i do not like ME3 ending. The ending didn't even feel like ME at all.

[jada_pinkett]

Why does an ending have to tie up loose ends. If every question get s explained then whats the point of imagination. Which is what playing video games or any form of story media is about. There are no ending that tie up all loose endings.

[byne]

jada_pinkett wrote...

Why does an ending have to tie up loose ends. If every question get s explained then whats the point of imagination. Which is what playing video games or any form of story media is about. There are no ending that tie up all loose endings.

It doesnt have to tie up all loose ends, but it should maybe at least refrain from raising several new questions, not keeping with the feeling of the entire series, and generally not making any damn sense.

[deathscythe517]

...no writing a book is about imagination, drawing a picture is about imagination, READING a book means you're looking into the imagination of another, ADMIRING art is when you're looking into the imagination of another. While Mass Effect 3 is a game it also has a story and while overall the imagination is good the person who imagined the ending might as well have come in with no prior knowledge of what the hell was going on because that's about what it feels like when you get an ending ripped from another game but missing the point of that game and completely screwing up the lore/universe it's being pasted into.

[MaleQuariansFTW]

I'm curious to know if the people who are saying they "love" the ending know that it's the same ending each time. No matter what, your choices won't matter. The relays are destroyed no matter what.

[Eurhetemec]

SLPr0 wrote...

Lets put it in more real world terms.

Its not the "destruction of a galactic civilization" as much as its the "destruction of an extremely compelling and lucrative science fiction intellectual property that is far more deserving of sequalization than most of the crap churned out with a 2/3/4 at the end of its name these days."

This ending didn't just "destroy the galaxy" it does, for all intents and purposes, end Mass Effect, as a franchise, because everything that made Mass Effect what it was, is no longer plot viable.

Truth. I was looking forward to buying many more ME games and spin-offs over the next decade or two, because I love the setting, the characters and so on. That Shepard was being retired in ME3 I pretty much took for granted. That's fine. But blowing up the entire ME universe? Jeez. Not smart, because it means there's no reason to look into other games which happen to have "Mass Effect" slapped on them.

[jada_pinkett]

Oh i know the endings are relativly the same. And just getting into a fiction story requires imagination. Adding more questions to an ending is a great way to end a series as it gets you more drawn into the overall universe of the series. It makes you think about things on your own terms.

[Rafe34]

jada_pinkett wrote...

I loved the ending too. Leaving it open to interpretation. Also just because its not a happy ending and as dakka says "the destruction of a galactic civilization" doesnt mean its not a good ending. People are wierd.

It's NOT that its not a happy ending. Stop this idiocy.

It's that the three endings make NO sense.

Let's look at the ending, shall we?

1. How does Shep survive in space without a helmet, when he is talking to the Catalyst?

2. How does Shep survive the citadel falling to earth, presumably? (We see his chest rising as he takes a breath if you choose the red ending?)

3. Why does the god-child's explanation make any sense? "Well, we assume that synthetic life will wipe out all organic life eventually, so instead we will wipe out organic life every 50k years." If what he says is true, who cares? Organics would eventually evolve again anyway. It's the same deal, only its not some AI playing god.

4. Without the mass relays, everyone is stuck in the Sol system, which results in massive fighting over the limited resources of a broken and nearly destroyed earth, and the immediate death of all quarians and turians due to no dextro-based food.

5. The destruction of all mass relays, regardless of what ending you choose, just wiped out a ton of life. Trillions upon trillions of people.

6. Why is the Normandy running? Why were they able to get to a mass relay? Why does a control or a synthesis, or a destroy Reaper option take down the ship?

7. Why are people who were in my final squad, (and all your companions were on earth right before the final push, at least), on the Normandy? How did they get there?

Now for the endings. 
8. Destroy (Red)
Why does this also destroy the Geth? The Geth are simply computer programs that are highly advanced, it's not possible for tech to distinguish between them and a computer. If Red option just wipes out all electronics, then the fleets are all now dead in space and everyone in them is going to die. Which would pretty much happen anyway as a result of #4.

9. Control (Blue)
I don't actually have a problem specifically with Blue, other than the ones previously stated in 1, 3 and 4. I think it might actually have been a good ending if Shep isn't absorbed and takes control of the Reapers, and now has to try to convince the fleets he is not indoctrinated and that they need to let the Reapers use the mass relay and get out of the system. Would take one hell of a paragon/renegade score.

10. Synthesis (Green)
This is the one that makes zero sense. Why does Shep need to jump into the stream in order to give his DNA to the catalyst? A simple vial of the blood that is coming off of him in buckets would suffice for that. 
And how the heck does this work exactly? It reconstructs everyone on the molecular level and makes them part synthetic and part organic? "Space Magic."

This is not science, it's just a contrived plot to help forward *their* story. Not mine. It's the same problem, only far worse, as DA2. Bioware wanted to tell us a story, so we were roped into one of their three endings, which is really just the same ending in 3 different colors. Nothing really changes because of our decisions, we don't get to see what happens to everyone, even just as a series of screens with writing.  (ala FO:NV and DA:O) 

Don't tell us we don't like the ending because it's not happy. We don't like the ending because it doesn't make any sense at all.

Modifié par Rafe34, 11 mars 2012 - 10:58 .

[kevchy]

jada_pinkett wrote...

Oh i know the endings are relativly the same. And just getting into a fiction story requires imagination. Adding more questions to an ending is a great way to end a series as it gets you more drawn into the overall universe of the series. It makes you think about things on your own terms.

Then how do you explain your squadmates got back on board the Normandy? Also, why do they looked unharmed whereas you got trashed after you got zapped by Harbinger?

No amount of imagination can cover this mistake.

Modifié par kevchy, 11 mars 2012 - 11:00 .

[Angry Finn]

Dear OP,
/Agree. That is all.

~But thats just my opinion, no need to go spreading it around.

[jada_pinkett]

There are many many explinations for all of the unexplained or implossible scenarios.

Also imagination can cover anything. Thats what imagination is. The ending is complete opinion if you like it or not but there is no good or bad to the ending. Its an ending, you percieve it how you want. It IS the ending to mass effect if you liked it or not.

[Michael177]

Agree with the OP... Now for the all the angry people to spend their time saying how everything is a plothole and that's we're all crazy yay!

Modifié par Michael177, 11 mars 2012 - 11:10 .

[HellzMonkes]

Rafe34 wrote...

jada_pinkett wrote...

I loved the ending too. Leaving it open to interpretation. Also just because its not a happy ending and as dakka says "the destruction of a galactic civilization" doesnt mean its not a good ending. People are wierd.

It's NOT that its not a happy ending. Stop this idiocy.

It's that the three endings make NO sense.

Let's look at the ending, shall we?

1. How does Shep survive in space without a helmet, when he is talking to the Catalyst?

2. How does Shep survive the citadel falling to earth, presumably? (We see his chest rising as he takes a breath if you choose the red ending?)

3. Why does the god-child's explanation make any sense? "Well, we assume that synthetic life will wipe out all organic life eventually, so instead we will wipe out organic life every 50k years." If what he says is true, who cares? Organics would eventually evolve again anyway. It's the same deal, only its not some AI playing god.

4. Without the mass relays, everyone is stuck in the Sol system, which results in massive fighting over the limited resources of a broken and nearly destroyed earth, and the immediate death of all quarians and turians due to no dextro-based food.

5. The destruction of all mass relays, regardless of what ending you choose, just wiped out a ton of life. Trillions upon trillions of people.

6. Why is the Normandy running? Why were they able to get to a mass relay? Why does a control or a synthesis, or a destroy Reaper option take down the ship?

7. Why are people who were in my final squad, (and all your companions were on earth right before the final push, at least), on the Normandy? How did they get there?

Now for the endings. 
8. Destroy (Red)
Why does this also destroy the Geth? The Geth are simply computer programs that are highly advanced, it's not possible for tech to distinguish between them and a computer. If Red option just wipes out all electronics, then the fleets are all now dead in space and everyone in them is going to die. Which would pretty much happen anyway as a result of #4.

9. Control (Blue)
I don't actually have a problem specifically with Blue, other than the ones previously stated in 1, 3 and 4. I think it might actually have been a good ending if Shep isn't absorbed and takes control of the Reapers, and now has to try to convince the fleets he is not indoctrinated and that they need to let the Reapers use the mass relay and get out of the system. Would take one hell of a paragon/renegade score.

10. Synthesis (Green)
This is the one that makes zero sense. Why does Shep need to jump into the stream in order to give his DNA to the catalyst? A simple vial of the blood that is coming off of him in buckets would suffice for that. 
And how the heck does this work exactly? It reconstructs everyone on the molecular level and makes them part synthetic and part organic? "Space Magic."

This is not science, it's just a contrived plot to help forward *their* story. Not mine. It's the same problem, only far worse, as DA2. Bioware wanted to tell us a story, so we were roped into one of their three endings, which is really just the same ending in 3 different colors. Nothing really changes because of our decisions, we don't get to see what happens to everyone, even just as a series of screens with writing.  (ala FO:NV and DA:O) 

Don't tell us we don't like the ending because it's not happy. We don't like the ending because it doesn't make any sense at all.

absolutley 100% agree the game was epic until you meet up with the illusive man on the citadel after than a very very sharp decline its like they let EA directly take control and said **** it its the journey that counts...welll its not and the endings and plot holes made me death stare my computer for 20 minutes after im am currently in the disbeleif/rage stage so depressing

[Esquin]

The problem is legacy.

I could handle the control or destroy options, if I got to see how they impact the galaxy i'd just spent 3 games helping to create. This was supposed to be the last song of Shepard. His final act. We were supposed to defeat the reapers. Save the galaxy. And see what that salvation got us.

This doesn't feel like a victory. Not at all.