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[Lethys1]

I think the ending is horrible for reasons that have already been explained.

But if the company releases DLC to alter the end, would that really have meaning for anyone anymore?  The curtain's already been pulled back.  It makes it seem almost...fake.  I know in my mind that this all was written by someone,but the illusion is gone, and we'll know that the new end is only because of complaints.  It's very unlikely that they'd want to have changed the ending had there been no backlash.

It also would show us that Bioware themselves don't even stand behind the ending; if they truly believed it was good, they would probably show some conviction since they already sold you copies.   It shows a lack of integrity as a company.  

Anyone really think new alternate endings are the solution to the disappointment?  New endings would disappoint me more out of principle.  They just should have gotten it right in the beginning and this would have been one of my favorite games of ever.  Doesn't even matter how they define getting it right, either, as long as it doesn't involve contradictory AI offering confusing explanations and strange choices.

[coles4971]

Don't care. I'd seriously spend a good £10 for a better ending, I'm that emotionally invested in the ME series.

[revo76]

Lethys1,

13000 people disagree with you.

[Steptroll]

Dude, **** real world morality.

Where is my SHEPARD RANCH.

[kefka004]

They won't get another dime out of me. I'll just youtube it.

[United_Strafes]

coles4971 wrote...

Don't care. I'd seriously spend a good £10 for a better ending, I'm that emotionally invested in the ME series.

So am I, which is exactly why I wouldn't pay for it, outside of the **** endings being some brilliant buildup to something else entirely.

[thoaloa]

Changing things showing no integrity is defeatism. And would me admitting mistakes and fixing them is always wrong.

Countless companies admit their mistakes and fix the issues they find and that doesn't make the have a lack of integrity it show that they care. (Of course if said company goes and makes all their products and requires a backlash/correction then that may start affecting credibility or just become the accepted norm depending on how its handled) Its all about spin control.

The ones that don't listen eventually go someplace else.

[Thrazesul]

I'd still like to see better endings but at this point, I've just made up my own head canon and it's way better than what I saw in game. Still won't be buying anymore from them after this though, unless they can create a good ending first. 

Modifié par Nerana, 11 mars 2012 - 10:26 .

[Evil_medved]

There are plenty examples of complete cannon change. Fallout 3 did it. Final fantasy did it. Valve changed ending of portal 1 coz gamers wanted chell in portal 2.

[Gowienczyk]

If so, I would hope it would be integrated through a patch; but yes I would pay for DLC; game extension and actual cohesive conclusions/closure.

[KillerHappyFace]

I'm on the fence about getting a DLC ending, but I'd probably accept a patched ending as if it was the original.

It would be them admitting to a mistake (and the plot holes show that it was indeed a mistake). Not accepting it would be like shooting Mordin.

The precedent it would set will have dire ramifications, but I'd accept it nonetheless.

[Total Biscuit]

A company actually admitting they screwed up, saying sorry and doing something to fix it shows vastly more integrity than saying 'well we're happy with what we did, and don't care what anyone else thinks, thanks for the money, suckers!'

[m72]

Don't care too.
They have ruined the arguably the best game trilogy with that ending.

They claim from day 1 that all of our decision since ME1 means something, then what?
None of our decisions matter Krogan Turian Truce? nothing. Geth-Quarian Truce? Nothing, Curing the Genophage? nothing.

Did it affect the war effort even slightly besides the numbers on the EMS? NO.

And for a game that sells itself by saying that our every decision means something it's a deathblow. I spent hundred of hours engineering my save game so I can get the ending that I want, and this is what we get?

Bioware can keep the starchild and Normandy crashing (hopefully on earth). But for god sakes display how every decision we take affect the galaxy (you know like what you guys did in DA:O)

I will even pay 15$ for the Ending DLC

[merylisk]

Yeah, as much as I hate to admit it, I totally give enough of a damn about this game and the characters that I would definitely pay for a better ending.

[Nowhereman19]

m72 wrote...

Don't care too.
They have ruined the arguably the best game trilogy with that ending.

They claim from day 1 that all of our decision since ME1 means something, then what?
None of our decisions matter Krogan Turian Truce? nothing. Geth-Quarian Truce? Nothing, Curing the Genophage? nothing.

Did it affect the war effort even slightly besides the numbers on the EMS? NO.

And for a game that sells itself by saying that our every decision means something it's a deathblow. I spent hundred of hours engineering my save game so I can get the ending that I want, and this is what we get?

Bioware can keep the starchild and Normandy crashing (hopefully on earth). But for god sakes display how every decision we take affect the galaxy (you know like what you guys did in DA:O)

I will even pay 15$ for the Ending DLC

Very well said..... Though they really ruined this game for me. I don't think I will spend anything for a better ending. I think this game was a result of EA's meddling into Bioware's games. Bioware ( I think ) prides itself on having some of the best, most well written stories. And this... this was atrocious. I just beat the game now and I'm sick.... I don't know what else to say. Greatest (maybe) trilogy of all time, reduced to a steaming pile of my dog's best work because of the ending. Sad. And what's worse is that everything leading up to the end was actually good.

Also why even throw Harbinger into the game at the end if the Normandy doesn't even get a chance to take a shot at it?

Modifié par Nowhereman19, 11 mars 2012 - 11:11 .

[Malanek]

I tend to agree. They had an artistic vision of how they wanted to finish it and as far as I am concerned changing it now to appease the popular vision just won't mean anything. I was quite underwhelmed but pandora's box has been opened and cannot be closed.

Besides the destructive ending wasn't that bad. Shep did what he set out to do but with a little collateral. Mass relays destroyed but it is only a matter of time before a suitable FTL system is reestablished. The galaxy is actually left in an interesting state. Although the Normandy scene really should have had them on earth.

[Renessa]

Artistic view, my foot!
They desperately wanted to be cool and controversial and they only succeeded in annoying a huge part of their fanbase. I mean, the endings did not even make sense in a grimdark way. They were just awful.

IMO a changed ending would show that they still care about customers that stuck with them for years and years and that they are listening to their fans after all.

People who are good with the original ending would not have to play the new ones, so everybody would be happy... sort of.

[Harbinger of Hope]

It seems like everyone defending them are just trying overlook the massive plotholes and bad writing of the endings. Look at that Mass Effect book. It was apparently so bad they pulled it. Why couldn't they keep that level of care for the game?

[thoaloa]

Malanek999 wrote...
Besides the destructive ending wasn't that bad. Shep did what he set out to do but with a little collateral. Mass relays destroyed but it is only a matter of time before a suitable FTL system is reestablished. The galaxy is actually left in an interesting state. Although the Normandy scene really should have had them on earth.

The problem is the timescales to build a suitable FTL system basically dooms disconnected worlds without the right tech or resources even if they weren't hit by the war. Even each race's homeworlds may be doomed if they can't get enough resources to support themselves within their local systems.

How are they suppose to develop when there isnt enough fuel or food to even support their current populations. Plus the only magic element is element zero which provides massive amounts of energy and is basically powering everything still even after the gates are gone. All the ending does is set the galaxy back a whole age in technology.

The rarity of element zero will also make it difficult to rebuild any high energy use system.

[Nowhereman19]

"Sorry, but your princess is in another castle!" is a better ending!!!!

[Kenthen]

The writing in the last part of the game breaks the reader-author contract. Stubbornly sticking to ones guns despite that fact because it's your *insert snooty, sarcastic voice* "artistic vision" doesn't show integrity and changing it doesn't show a lack of it.

[Adamantium93]

I think it shows them that their attempt at being deep and insightful failed and we don't want some contrived philosophy that tears open plot holes and flies in the face of the entire series. It shows that they do care about making mass effect mass effect.

[Optimus J]

What you call integrity I call Arrogance.
If Bioware rectifies those ends they will show lack of arrogance.

[HKR148]

Sherlock Holmes series changed its ending after huge amount of discontent with Mr. Holmes supposedly dying after his duel with Prof., does anyone criticize Sir Arthur Conan Doyle for ruining its integrity? No, the series is legendary.

Modifié par HKR148, 11 mars 2012 - 12:10 .