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[howieloader]

Steptroll wrote...

"Stop thinking you're a producer and telling us when and where we should produce our content."

How ****ing dare you disrespect the people who PAY YOU.

Who said this? I didn't see it in the articles...

[LeifofRohan]

howieloader wrote...

Steptroll wrote...

"Stop thinking you're a producer and telling us when and where we should produce our content."

How ****ing dare you disrespect the people who PAY YOU.

Who said this? I didn't see it in the articles...

I didn't either...

But he needs to realize that the fans pay his bills. As a consumer, we need to get hat we paid for. I loved ME # until the end, and as a payign consumer, I am not satifyed. Maybe thats the angle we should go at too...

[Ivanssaran]

Uezurii wrote...

Necroscope wrote...

Javik voice file was already salvaged from the demo, so what are we talking about?

Even better, in the leaked script, HE was the catalyst.

I KNEW it! That's why we should toss Javik into the crucible!

[WatchTheGrass]

Ivanssaran wrote...

Uezurii wrote...

Necroscope wrote...

Javik voice file was already salvaged from the demo, so what are we talking about?

Even better, in the leaked script, HE was the catalyst.

I KNEW it! That's why we should toss Javik into the crucible!

I'm not as surprised as I probably should.

I wish that the original script had never been leaked, whoever did that is responsible for the mess were seeing now, I'm sure of it.

I know I'm probably asking for too much but EA/Bioware, if anyone does actually read these forums, a gold edition game following the original script with proper endings released in a year or two, I would pay full price for it. Others might get angry and demand it for free but I don't even care, I just want closure.

[UnbornLeviathan]

Cirreus wrote...

Ivanssaran wrote...

The article is beautifully written.

Yeah definately ... I'm sure we'll see more of the "non-gaming invested" journalism sites pick up on this.

It's such a shame to be repeatedly reminded that gaming review sites have no integrity left.

Oh, the game was great on all the stats gaming magazines usually include (Visuals, control, sound, etc) just....the ending and some of the little rewards along the way felt hollow and dry.

[Thunder AI]

Why do they keep focusing on the gay element? Thats been in all Bioware games. The real problems have nothing to do with being gay. You may not like it, but if thats all your mad about your not really understanding the problem.

Also, why does it have to be coordinated, perhaps, the game is just that bad that everyone but the people who made it, know it.

[Rheinlandman]

Fingertrip wrote...

It's not really that big of a deal.

But to investors and brokers who don't play games but invest in media companies this sort of article is what they pay attention to.  They don't invest because they like the company, they invest to make money; and when a flagship product has negative press and a companies business practices are called into question it certainly doesn't bode well for long term feasibility.

EA stock has been doing really poorly since BF3 anyways, a small surge before the release of ME3 but its creeping back down.

[Luigitornado]

I don't really see Bioware's DLC as a problem.

Capcom on the other hand...

[Thunder AI]

DLC bothers me depending on what their doing with it. First day DLC with ingame content is wrong. DLC for armor is fine. DLC with new missions that are not large enough to warrant a proper expansion but are too large to be a side mission are fine.

For example, the razor DLC for Oblivion didn't bother me at all nor did Arrival.  Although Arrival is questionable but ok.

Modifié par Thunder AI, 11 mars 2012 - 03:12 .

[wetnasty]

"Uncharted 3 was really great all around – its acting  and writing superb."

I stopped reading here.

Also, are people really complaining about S/S romance? Don't like it, don't do it, etc. And this is far from the first BioWare game to have it.

Modifié par wetnasty, 11 mars 2012 - 03:20 .

[Jaulen]

revo76 wrote...

From Ashes was not a DLC, it was part of the game and when script leaked, they removed the Prothean and decided to publish it as DLC.

If you played ME2, zaeed or kasumi DLCs, you'll see the difference. Javid had unique dialogues, with Liara with other partners. Take him to Thessia you'll see the if it was DLC or not.

No, it wasnt a DLC, Javid was created at the same time when ME3 was creating. They just separated from the actual game. Because of that we're thinking the same thing for endings. They removed the endings and publish the actual ones as DLC so every ME3 of the world will see the actual end in the same time.

Extra: Javid was the Catalyst in the leaked script, so you'll get what i meant.

That would have been awesome.....1) A DA:O type ending where he can/ or cannot not sacrfice himself to the Crucible based on what he thinks about Shepard 2) What choice in how the end happens by Javick  (control/synthesis/destrcution) is based on choices Shepard made in the games, and how Shepard interacts with Javick. 

[jspiess]

Would have been okay with Javick being the Catalyst

[Ivanssaran]

Jaulen wrote...

revo76 wrote...

From Ashes was not a DLC, it was part of the game and when script leaked, they removed the Prothean and decided to publish it as DLC.

If you played ME2, zaeed or kasumi DLCs, you'll see the difference. Javid had unique dialogues, with Liara with other partners. Take him to Thessia you'll see the if it was DLC or not.

No, it wasnt a DLC, Javid was created at the same time when ME3 was creating. They just separated from the actual game. Because of that we're thinking the same thing for endings. They removed the endings and publish the actual ones as DLC so every ME3 of the world will see the actual end in the same time.

Extra: Javid was the Catalyst in the leaked script, so you'll get what i meant.

That would have been awesome.....1) A DA:O type ending where he can/ or cannot not sacrfice himself to the Crucible based on what he thinks about Shepard 2) What choice in how the end happens by Javick  (control/synthesis/destrcution) is based on choices Shepard made in the games, and how Shepard interacts with Javick. 

I know! That's exactly what I and others were talking about on this thread: http://social.biowar...5/index/9741270

[Dynomite15]

quick question if javik is the catalyst how come the protheans couldn't "find" the catalyst. I didn't play the DLC. Is any Prothean the catalyst or just javik?

[paynesgrey]

Wow. Bioware's "if you knew what's coming, you'd hang on to your copy forever" now reads like a failed investment company telling it's stockholders "Ignore the bankruptcy proceedings, if you knew what we have planned you'd hang onto your stock forever."

[Ivanssaran]

Dynomite15 wrote...

quick question if javik is the catalyst how come the protheans couldn't "find" the catalyst. I didn't play the DLC. Is any Prothean the catalyst or just javik?

I have no idea what the 'official' game would have been. However, the way I see it is that, either the protheans actually found what catalyst is but the information was not delievered, or they only found it out at the very end of the game. Many possibilities can exist there. And I imagine any organic life form(I'm not sure about synthetics) could be the catalyst as long as they wish to destroy the reapers. But since Javik is the last prothean, and him being the symbol of vengence, I think it is most fitting that he makes that ultimate sacrifice.

[Dynomite15]

If the protheans found out what the catalyst was all it would take was to get on a radio and say, oh hey get a sacrifice to jump in a laser or shoot the laser.

[JasonDaPsycho]

It's a shame the only person who understands not to antagonist your fans is Gabe Newell. I really do agree with most of the first article on day 1 DLC.

[Ivanssaran]

Dynomite15 wrote...

If the protheans found out what the catalyst was all it would take was to get on a radio and say, oh hey get a sacrifice to jump in a laser or shoot the laser.

Yes. That is why I mentioned they could have figured out what catalyst is only in this cycle; timeline of ME3. Maybe they could see something the protheans could not see because they were all working together with other races this time!

But I fear this conversation is straying from the subject of this thread. Maybe we can talk in another thread or through messages?

Modifié par Ivanssaran, 11 mars 2012 - 03:52 .

[GracefulChicken]

Yeah, I noticed this as well on Forbes. It is quite a big deal, to whoever said the opposite. Forbes is a well respected business magazine, and is pretty typically marketed to "well off" people, generally those in the business world. It speaks volumes that Forbes is mentioning ME3 and the reaction to the endings. It's a sure sign that Bioware are taking notice now if they weren't already, and it's a helpful push in the right direction.

[dragonknight31]

Ivanssaran wrote...

Dynomite15 wrote...

If the protheans found out what the catalyst was all it would take was to get on a radio and say, oh hey get a sacrifice to jump in a laser or shoot the laser.

Yes. That is why I mentioned they could have figured out what catalyst is only in this cycle; timeline of ME3. Maybe they could see something the protheans could not see because they were all working together with other races this time!

But I fear this conversation is straying from the subject of this thread. Maybe we can talk in another thread or through messages?

I'm going to assume that the Protheans never used him as the catalyst, (or any Prothean for that matter) because as he said several times the Citadel was in Reaper control long before he was born. And it was mentioned by Liara that they ran out of time, meaning.. they probably were hit too hard by the time they figured it out and had no way to get someone there, along with the crucible.

On topic, I don't think the financial blowback will be significant until Bioware releases their next title. They've managed to sell quite a few copies of ME3 at present, which I have to say, I'm happy for. The game while it has it's flaws throughout, is STILL fantastic and day one DLC drama aside would still be one of the best games I"ve played in awhile if not for the debacle with the ending.

I hope Bioware/EA gets it's act together and learns from these mistakes, correcting what they can and should. The company produces great games, just would be nice if they gave us actual endings, cleaned up some fairly nasty bugs and didn't photoshop their content..

[Dynomite15]

People will still buy bioware games. A lot of people on here will buy the next one. To popular of a company to fail.

[mitimai]

After Forbes wrote a lie and bull**** about my country, I don't believe them anymore.

[mupp3tz]

Erik Kain, our Forbes speaker of the people haha

[Destrega]

honestly in recent times with DA2, SWTOR (to some degree) and now This with the day 1 dlc+microtranactiions in MP how can they not see that they're cannibalizing the market share they have? Do they think they have a monopoly on writing good stories/making games? More and more we see the great names of game companies leaving after big projects and the incoming talent pool is only getting bigger due to the massive nature of the game industry. I've always been a fan of Bioware and i'd really hate to see them go down this path of short term monetary gain at the cost of their great name in the gaming industry.