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[Gigamantis]

Draemien wrote...

Selene Moonsong wrote...

2. The forum topics that permit dicsussions containing spoilers require game registration. If you are not using a registered game account to post in the forums, posting of spoilers in forum topics that do not permit spoilers is is violation of the Site Rules to which every person who has created a BioWare Social Network user account has agreed to for the priviledge of posting in these forums. 

The question is....why is that so?

This policy is completely unheard of. It alienates a big part of the fanbase for unstated (and perhaps shadowy) reasons.

I, for example, cannot post on the forums as I share my computer with a mate and we bought the game on his account. Is my opinion worthless to Bioware? 

Are you just trying to do damage control by dampening the backlash?

Fans posting spoilers here is a direct consequence of Bioware's own unjustified policy, and will continue to happen unless this changes. 

Only people who own and have played the game should be offering opinions on it.  This is how most network sites combat trolling; the only mistake Bioware made is allowing people who haven't registered a copy to post on ANY forums.  You people who want to spoil the game for everyone else in a non-spoiler section are trolls and shouldn't be here; hopefully you'll eventually be banned.  

[Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut]

Gigamantis wrote...

Only people who own and have played the game should be offering opinions on it.  This is how most network sites combat trolling; the only mistake Bioware made is allowing people who haven't registered a copy to post on ANY forums.  You people who want to spoil the game for everyone else in a non-spoiler section are trolls and shouldn't be here; hopefully you'll eventually be banned.  

How about game owners who don't want to link their forum account to their Origin account? How about people who didn't buy the game because of elements that can't be discussed without spoilers? It would be easier for them to just set up a spoiler section for non-registrants - there's basically no downside, and it would fix the issues with this forum section.

[SolidBeast]

Selene Moonsong wrote...

The Big Nothing wrote...


Apparently, Miss Moonsong, you missed the part where some of us said that we are unable to register our copies of Mass Effect 3, thus, preventing us from posting in the spoiler section. We do not want to spoil, but you don't offer any other solutions.

We've been locked out of a party we have invites to. So, we are throwing our own party in this section.

Apparently, peopple are having issues with reading comprehension:

The Mass Effect 3 General Discussion (No ME3 Spoilers allowed) is clearly marked as No ME 3 Spoilers allowed, what is so difficult to understand about that?

And yes, I do understand that some folks are having issues with registering their games and support for that is available as Social.bioware.com Site Help 

Mind actually answering my question?

Modifié par SolidBeast, 11 mars 2012 - 04:25 .

[Abirn]

If you keep putting your hand on a burning stove, nobody is going to feel bad that you got burned. Likewise, if you click on a link with the words (spoiler warning) or some variation of then don't be shocked to find out that the thread contains spoilers. Seriously people how hard is it not to click the damn link.

[augustburnt]

saying the ending sucks really isnt a spoiler.

[Gigamantis]

Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...

Only people who own and have played the game should be offering opinions on it.  This is how most network sites combat trolling; the only mistake Bioware made is allowing people who haven't registered a copy to post on ANY forums.  You people who want to spoil the game for everyone else in a non-spoiler section are trolls and shouldn't be here; hopefully you'll eventually be banned.  

How about game owners who don't want to link their forum account to their Origin account? How about people who didn't buy the game because of elements that can't be discussed without spoilers? It would be easier for them to just set up a spoiler section for non-registrants - there's basically no downside, and it would fix the issues with this forum section.

That's up to Bioware and doesn't excuse purposely spoiling things in this section.  You're not screwing Bioware by breaking that rule you're screwing over fellow players. 

[SolidBeast]

Gigamantis wrote...
Only people who own and have played the game should be offering opinions on it.  This is how most network sites combat trolling; the only mistake Bioware made is allowing people who haven't registered a copy to post on ANY forums.  You people who want to spoil the game for everyone else in a non-spoiler section are trolls and shouldn't be here; hopefully you'll eventually be banned. 

Elitism at its finest.
You realise this isn't stopping "trolling", it's encouraging it?

[The Big Nothing]

Gigamantis wrote...

Draemien wrote...

Selene Moonsong wrote...

2. The forum topics that permit dicsussions containing spoilers require game registration. If you are not using a registered game account to post in the forums, posting of spoilers in forum topics that do not permit spoilers is is violation of the Site Rules to which every person who has created a BioWare Social Network user account has agreed to for the priviledge of posting in these forums. 

The question is....why is that so?

This policy is completely unheard of. It alienates a big part of the fanbase for unstated (and perhaps shadowy) reasons.

I, for example, cannot post on the forums as I share my computer with a mate and we bought the game on his account. Is my opinion worthless to Bioware? 

Are you just trying to do damage control by dampening the backlash?

Fans posting spoilers here is a direct consequence of Bioware's own unjustified policy, and will continue to happen unless this changes. 

Only people who own and have played the game should be offering opinions on it.  This is how most network sites combat trolling; the only mistake Bioware made is allowing people who haven't registered a copy to post on ANY forums.  You people who want to spoil the game for everyone else in a non-spoiler section are trolls and shouldn't be here; hopefully you'll eventually be banned.  

I don't think many are going to own the game for long anyway. Expect a loud, collective disc-snapping.

[joriandrake]

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/9776079/1

I think this thread gives some new perspective/highlight on the game in a way that I think also relates to this thread and the cause of frustated fans posting spoiler related complains.

[Gigamantis]

SolidBeast wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...
Only people who own and have played the game should be offering opinions on it.  This is how most network sites combat trolling; the only mistake Bioware made is allowing people who haven't registered a copy to post on ANY forums.  You people who want to spoil the game for everyone else in a non-spoiler section are trolls and shouldn't be here; hopefully you'll eventually be banned. 

Elitism at its finest.
You realise this isn't stopping "trolling", it's encouraging it?

That's why I said that registration should be required to post in any forums.  I agree that only half-heartedly curbing you trolls is pointless.  So, have fun screwing over ME fans who thought they'd be safe from spoilers here.  

[joriandrake]

Gigamantis wrote...

SolidBeast wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...
Only people who own and have played the game should be offering opinions on it.  This is how most network sites combat trolling; the only mistake Bioware made is allowing people who haven't registered a copy to post on ANY forums.  You people who want to spoil the game for everyone else in a non-spoiler section are trolls and shouldn't be here; hopefully you'll eventually be banned. 

Elitism at its finest.
You realise this isn't stopping "trolling", it's encouraging it?

That's why I said that registration should be required to post in any forums.  I agree that only half-heartedly curbing you trolls is pointless.  So, have fun screwing over ME fans who thought they'd be safe from spoilers here.  

the problem is that there is no similar subforum or thread where spoilers are allowed, then no one would have to post everything into the same spot, not to mention those who don't want to read spoilers shouldn't even visit a game forum so soon after release

[Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut]

Gigamantis wrote...

Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...

Only people who own and have played the game should be offering opinions on it.  This is how most network sites combat trolling; the only mistake Bioware made is allowing people who haven't registered a copy to post on ANY forums.  You people who want to spoil the game for everyone else in a non-spoiler section are trolls and shouldn't be here; hopefully you'll eventually be banned.  

How about game owners who don't want to link their forum account to their Origin account? How about people who didn't buy the game because of elements that can't be discussed without spoilers? It would be easier for them to just set up a spoiler section for non-registrants - there's basically no downside, and it would fix the issues with this forum section.

That's up to Bioware and doesn't excuse purposely spoiling things in this section.  You're not screwing Bioware by breaking that rule you're screwing over fellow players. 

That's why they should implement a spoiler section for non-registrants.

Modifié par Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut, 11 mars 2012 - 04:44 .

[joriandrake]

Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...

Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...

Only people who own and have played the game should be offering opinions on it.  This is how most network sites combat trolling; the only mistake Bioware made is allowing people who haven't registered a copy to post on ANY forums.  You people who want to spoil the game for everyone else in a non-spoiler section are trolls and shouldn't be here; hopefully you'll eventually be banned.  

How about game owners who don't want to link their forum account to their Origin account? How about people who didn't buy the game because of elements that can't be discussed without spoilers? It would be easier for them to just set up a spoiler section for non-registrants - there's basically no downside, and it would fix the issues with this forum section.

That's up to Bioware and doesn't excuse purposely spoiling things in this section.  You're not screwing Bioware by breaking that rule you're screwing over fellow players. 

That's why they should implement a spoiler section for non-registrants.

fixed

[Gigamantis]

joriandrake wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...

SolidBeast wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...
Only people who own and have played the game should be offering opinions on it.  This is how most network sites combat trolling; the only mistake Bioware made is allowing people who haven't registered a copy to post on ANY forums.  You people who want to spoil the game for everyone else in a non-spoiler section are trolls and shouldn't be here; hopefully you'll eventually be banned. 

Elitism at its finest.
You realise this isn't stopping "trolling", it's encouraging it?

That's why I said that registration should be required to post in any forums.  I agree that only half-heartedly curbing you trolls is pointless.  So, have fun screwing over ME fans who thought they'd be safe from spoilers here.  

the problem is that there is no similar subforum or thread where spoilers are allowed, then no one would have to post everything into the same spot, not to mention those who don't want to read spoilers shouldn't even visit a game forum so soon after release

Many people visit the forums "so soon after release" because when they're at work they can't play the game but they can still talk about it.  People also may want to get some general opinions of the game that DON'T include spoilers before they play. 

Don't try to blame the people you're spoiling the game for and don't act like it's in any way justified. 

Modifié par Gigamantis, 11 mars 2012 - 04:40 .

[SolidBeast]

Gigamantis wrote...

SolidBeast wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...
Only people who own and have played the game should be offering opinions on it.  This is how most network sites combat trolling; the only mistake Bioware made is allowing people who haven't registered a copy to post on ANY forums.  You people who want to spoil the game for everyone else in a non-spoiler section are trolls and shouldn't be here; hopefully you'll eventually be banned. 

Elitism at its finest.
You realise this isn't stopping "trolling", it's encouraging it?

That's why I said that registration should be required to post in any forums.  I agree that only half-heartedly curbing you trolls is pointless.  So, have fun screwing over ME fans who thought they'd be safe from spoilers here.  

And that's why I called you an elitist. Who the hell do you think you are that you believe your opinion is worth more than mine?
Notice: if there was no lockdown on spoiler forums at all, there would be no need to post spoilers anywhere else.
Second of all, I do not come here to PURPOSEFULLY spoil the game for everyone else, I discuss the issues with the story where appropriate and if you are naive enough to walk into a spoiler thread and believe you will be safe from spoilers, that's your own problem.

[Gigamantis]

SolidBeast wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...

SolidBeast wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...
Only people who own and have played the game should be offering opinions on it.  This is how most network sites combat trolling; the only mistake Bioware made is allowing people who haven't registered a copy to post on ANY forums.  You people who want to spoil the game for everyone else in a non-spoiler section are trolls and shouldn't be here; hopefully you'll eventually be banned. 

Elitism at its finest.
You realise this isn't stopping "trolling", it's encouraging it?

That's why I said that registration should be required to post in any forums.  I agree that only half-heartedly curbing you trolls is pointless.  So, have fun screwing over ME fans who thought they'd be safe from spoilers here.  

And that's why I called you an elitist. Who the hell do you think you are that you believe your opinion is worth more than mine?
Notice: if there was no lockdown on spoiler forums at all, there would be no need to post spoilers anywhere else.
Second of all, I do not come here to PURPOSEFULLY spoil the game for everyone else, I discuss the issues with the story where appropriate and if you are naive enough to walk into a spoiler thread and believe you will be safe from spoilers, that's your own problem.

There are no spoiler tags on threads in this forum and certainly aren't any spoiler tags for the one-off comments in any number of threads here.  It has nothing to do with whose opinions are worth more; it has everything to do with a basic level of consideration for other people.  You can't follow the rules and you're negatively effecting the community so you don't deserve to post here.  Simple. 

[Draemien]

Selene Moonsong wrote...

The Big Nothing wrote...


Apparently, Miss Moonsong, you missed the part where some of us said that we are unable to register our copies of Mass Effect 3, thus, preventing us from posting in the spoiler section. We do not want to spoil, but you don't offer any other solutions.

We've been locked out of a party we have invites to. So, we are throwing our own party in this section.

Apparently, peopple are having issues with reading comprehension:

The Mass Effect 3 General Discussion (No ME3 Spoilers allowed) is clearly marked as No ME 3 Spoilers allowed, what is so difficult to understand about that?

And yes, I do understand that some folks are having issues with registering their games and support for that is available as Social.bioware.com Site Help 

If Bioware's recently rules that prohibit users being disrespectful towards each other were enforceable towards staff, you should at least get a warning. Accusing others of having issues with reading comprehension because they disagree with you?

May you please answer our questions:

"Why can't we post on the other forums?

This policy is completely unheard of. It alienates a big part of the fanbase for unstated (and perhaps shadowy) reasons.

I, for example, cannot post on the forums as I share my computer with a mate and we bought the game on his account. Is my opinion worthless to Bioware? 

Are you just trying to do damage control by dampening the backlash?

Fans posting spoilers here is a direct consequence of Bioware's own unjustified policy, and will continue to happen unless this changes.  "

[Sundance31us]

joriandrake wrote...
You know majority of forum members can only post in this section right?

That does not give them the right to break the rules.

[ebevan91]

Witnessing the ending yourself will probably ruin the game more than randomly seeing spoilers on this forum.

[Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut]

Sundance31us wrote...

joriandrake wrote...
You know majority of forum members can only post in this section right?

That does not give them the right to break the rules.

*image removed per Site Rule #6*

Modifié par Selene Moonsong, 11 mars 2012 - 06:12 .

[Legendaryred]

herp derp

[joriandrake]

Gigamantis wrote...

joriandrake wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...

SolidBeast wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...
Only people who own and have played the game should be offering opinions on it.  This is how most network sites combat trolling; the only mistake Bioware made is allowing people who haven't registered a copy to post on ANY forums.  You people who want to spoil the game for everyone else in a non-spoiler section are trolls and shouldn't be here; hopefully you'll eventually be banned. 

Elitism at its finest.
You realise this isn't stopping "trolling", it's encouraging it?

That's why I said that registration should be required to post in any forums.  I agree that only half-heartedly curbing you trolls is pointless.  So, have fun screwing over ME fans who thought they'd be safe from spoilers here.  

the problem is that there is no similar subforum or thread where spoilers are allowed, then no one would have to post everything into the same spot, not to mention those who don't want to read spoilers shouldn't even visit a game forum so soon after release

Many people visit the forums "so soon after release" because when they're at work they can't play the game but they can still talk about it.  People also may want to get some general opinions of the game that DON'T include spoilers before they play. 

Don't try to blame the people you're spoiling the game for and don't act like it's in any way justified. 

If you think so, why not use one of the many only-registered subforums? You have plenty of them after all, unlike the others.

[SolidBeast]

Gigamantis wrote...

There are no spoiler tags on threads in this forum and certainly aren't any spoiler tags for the one-off comments in any number of threads here.  It has nothing to do with whose opinions are worth more; it has everything to do with a basic level of consideration for other people.  You can't follow the rules and you're negatively effecting the community so you don't deserve to post here.  Simple. 

No, it has everything to do with it. Your suggestion is not letting ANYONE without the game / without it being registered post about it or discuss it. People WILL know about the endings, as said here, youtube? Reading the spoiler forums? Anyone can do that. People that don't want to get the game DUE to the endings. They are not allowed to discuss them anywhere? That's pure BS.
I put spoiler warnings in my posts.
To quote Draemien, "people posting spoilers here is a direct consequence of BioWare's own unjustified policy."
And we STILL have no justifiable reason or answer as to the benefit of parts of the forum being restricted to us.

Modifié par SolidBeast, 11 mars 2012 - 04:55 .

[Draemien]

Gigamantis wrote...

Only people who own and have played the game should be offering opinions on it.  This is how most network sites combat trolling; the only mistake Bioware made is allowing people who haven't registered a copy to post on ANY forums.  You people who want to spoil the game for everyone else in a non-spoiler section are trolls and shouldn't be here; hopefully you'll eventually be banned.  

I have bought ME1, I have bought ME2, I have bought ME3 with a friend that I share my computer with. 

Is it logical to prohibit me from posting on the forums? More importantly, is it fair? Is it ethical?

[Gigamantis]

joriandrake wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...

joriandrake wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...

SolidBeast wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...
Only people who own and have played the game should be offering opinions on it.  This is how most network sites combat trolling; the only mistake Bioware made is allowing people who haven't registered a copy to post on ANY forums.  You people who want to spoil the game for everyone else in a non-spoiler section are trolls and shouldn't be here; hopefully you'll eventually be banned. 

Elitism at its finest.
You realise this isn't stopping "trolling", it's encouraging it?

That's why I said that registration should be required to post in any forums.  I agree that only half-heartedly curbing you trolls is pointless.  So, have fun screwing over ME fans who thought they'd be safe from spoilers here.  

the problem is that there is no similar subforum or thread where spoilers are allowed, then no one would have to post everything into the same spot, not to mention those who don't want to read spoilers shouldn't even visit a game forum so soon after release

Many people visit the forums "so soon after release" because when they're at work they can't play the game but they can still talk about it.  People also may want to get some general opinions of the game that DON'T include spoilers before they play. 

Don't try to blame the people you're spoiling the game for and don't act like it's in any way justified. 

If you think so, why not use one of the many only-registered subforums? You have plenty of them after all, unlike the others.

General game discussion (no spoilers allowed) is OBVIOUSLY where people are going to default for those purposes.  It's not their fault that's the only forum you can troll.  

Like I said, Bioware dropped the ball by allowing you trolls post anywhere without being registered.