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Casey Hudson said in countless interviews that it would be possible to achieve the "best" ending through single-player alone and that multiplayer would not be forced down anyone's throat.

It turns out that this was a half-truth.

Its practically impossible to get the best ending through single-player alone UNLESS:

- You followed a very strict path through the trilogy, making the exact perfect choice for every decision. So forget about making the decisions you wanted to make, you'll have to follow a bullet point list of decisions.

- Alternatively, you beat the game on New Game +, where crap like fishes give War Assets.

I've done everything in this game, busted my ass to scan every single planet, even achieved various diplomatic victories that netted my huge amounts of War Assets. And still I cannot meet that "best" ending.

I am incredibly disappointed by this. Bioware slapped multiplayer, a feature that a fairly prominent portion of their fanbase wouldn't care to play. That was fine in and of itself, but to force it on the single-player game the way they did, after saying they wouldn't is just dishonest.

I was a faithful to the mass effect series since the launch of the first game. And because of that faithfulness and playing on the xbox 360 against my better judgement, I am now doomed because I do not play for Live Gold, ence I cannot even play the multiplayer if I wanted to.

Bioware made a terrible call here.

With the ending of the Mass Effect trilogy, the failure that DA2 was, and the boring carbon-copy that SWTOR is, I am no longer tied to Bioware. And after this constant spree of terrible decisions that mar otherwise great games, I can say that I will be approaching future Bioware titles with more reserve and much less enthusiasm. 

I like Bioware, hell I even have an old friend Marc-Antoine Matton that worked there, but it just feels like they've lost their touch.

Modifié par Jep13, 11 mars 2012 - 02:19 .


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I feel you. I have played only one round of multiplayer. I'm doing everything I can on the SP. I'm searching for missionand everything and my WA is 58% the best and 50% the worst. I like it's multiplayer but I don't want a mode like this to define my SP playthrought. I hope they will fix this..

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It seems to me like incredibly poor balancing/calibrating on the developper's part. Most people are coming up about 300-500 EMS short of the best ending when they've done everything.

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Jep13 wrote...

It seems to me like incredibly poor balancing/calibrating.


Wheres garus when you need him? 
But yeah I found this out the hard way I just thought since the bar was full that I would get the best ending WRONG you need to do multiplayer.

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This is one my biggest complaints for Mass Effect 3.

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The sticky topic in this forum is disappointing makes people believe that you can get the best outcome without multiplayer but then you actually finish the game and fill the bar to full and still don't get it cause you didn't do multiplayer. They should be at least warning people.

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You gain 3% of galactic readiness for every won match, that's 17 matches to go from 50% to 100%. It's about 4 hours of Bronze runs, then you just need to run one match every day to keep it at 100%, are you telling me that you can't spread 17 matches during your whole SP campaign?!

Modifié par maxulic, 11 mars 2012 - 02:24 .


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THIS tying up of the Readiness to the multiplayer is THE WORST DECISION EVER, it's a slap to us.
I am NOT gonna pay for XBox live to get the MP to work for this. I bought Mass Effect because it's the best RPG story ever, Why o Why do you need to kick me repeatedly for not liking multiplayer on consoles.

BW you seriously let us down here

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Good to know......my EMS bar is maxed out but it's only showing around 2999, and my total military strength is 5998, (my first playthrough, Jacey Shepard was not a completionist in ME1 or ME2). And I'm at the point where it's getting toward the final push.

I did have three quests I completed that never cleared or marked as complete.

So I guess I won't hope for any chances at a 'best' ending.

Guess this one is going to end up like my first DA:O playthrough where my depressed Dalish sacrifices herself.

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metawanderer wrote...

This is one my biggest complaints for Mass Effect 3.


Indeed it is my top complaint about ME3.

I could deal with the changes in combat/exploration/lack of gun holstering.

I could deal with (and even liked) the ending.

I could deal with the broken animations (so apparently in the 22nd/23rd centuries, people can turn their heads/neck at impossible angles to look behind themselves...)

I could deal with the unstable quality of textures (seriously, some incredibly detailed textures one moment, then 2001 looking textures the next)

But I can't deal with multiplayer forced down my throat. Moreso when multiplayer is ****ing pay-to-play like it is on the xbox 360.

So I'm left boned by my favorite trilogy and series in 20 years of gaming, and what used to be my favorite developper. All for a feature a large number of people didn't want in the first place.

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Jaulen wrote...

Good to know......my EMS bar is maxed out but it's only showing around 2999, and my total military strength is 5998, (my first playthrough, Jacey Shepard was not a completionist in ME1 or ME2). And I'm at the point where it's getting toward the final push.

I did have three quests I completed that never cleared or marked as complete.

So I guess I won't hope for any chances at a 'best' ending.

Guess this one is going to end up like my first DA:O playthrough where my depressed Dalish sacrifices herself.


As long as you reach the even results, it's far enough.

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maxulic wrote...

You gain 3% of galactic readiness for every won match, that's 17 matches to go from 50% to 100%. It's about 4 hours of Bronze runs, then you just need to run one match every day to keep it at 100%, are you telling me that you can't spread 17 matches during your whole SP campaign?!


Did you not bother to read? I don't have xbox live gold. And it shouldN't have been forced down my throat.

I hate gamer self-entitlement as much as the next, but this just feels like a serious slap in the face.

I just bought the game and the ****ing DLC. Why is xbox live gold being forced down my throat too. Do I look like I'm made out of money?

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maxulic wrote...

Jaulen wrote...

Good to know......my EMS bar is maxed out but it's only showing around 2999, and my total military strength is 5998, (my first playthrough, Jacey Shepard was not a completionist in ME1 or ME2). And I'm at the point where it's getting toward the final push.

I did have three quests I completed that never cleared or marked as complete.

So I guess I won't hope for any chances at a 'best' ending.

Guess this one is going to end up like my first DA:O playthrough where my depressed Dalish sacrifices herself.


As long as you reach the even results, it's far enough.


far enough to finish the game but not for the best outcome hes barely half way to what he needs to have the best ending.

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hellsjarhead wrote...

maxulic wrote...

Jaulen wrote...

Good to know......my EMS bar is maxed out but it's only showing around 2999, and my total military strength is 5998, (my first playthrough, Jacey Shepard was not a completionist in ME1 or ME2). And I'm at the point where it's getting toward the final push.

I did have three quests I completed that never cleared or marked as complete.

So I guess I won't hope for any chances at a 'best' ending.

Guess this one is going to end up like my first DA:O playthrough where my depressed Dalish sacrifices herself.


As long as you reach the even results, it's far enough.


far enough to finish the game but not for the best outcome hes barely half way to what he needs to have the best ending.


No. When you ask for more information on the War Assets screen, as long as your chances of success are even you are good to go.

I don't remember when I reached that level but I don't think it was in the 6000 range, it had to be much lower.

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This is the worst decision by far that the developers made (and they made quite a few). It's outrageous that those of us without an internet connection to our consoles (or XBOX players who don't feel like paying) are blocked from a certain aspect of the endings, which are crappy enough as it is.

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maxulic wrote...

hellsjarhead wrote...

maxulic wrote...

Jaulen wrote...

Good to know......my EMS bar is maxed out but it's only showing around 2999, and my total military strength is 5998, (my first playthrough, Jacey Shepard was not a completionist in ME1 or ME2). And I'm at the point where it's getting toward the final push.

I did have three quests I completed that never cleared or marked as complete.

So I guess I won't hope for any chances at a 'best' ending.

Guess this one is going to end up like my first DA:O playthrough where my depressed Dalish sacrifices herself.


As long as you reach the even results, it's far enough.


far enough to finish the game but not for the best outcome hes barely half way to what he needs to have the best ending.


No. When you ask for more information on the War Assets screen, as long as your chances of success are even you are good to go.

I don't remember when I reached that level but I don't think it was in the 6000 range, it had to be much lower.

Don't be obtuse.  There's an extra scene in the ending which is only accessible to people with an EMS of over 4000 (or 5000 in some cases) which is impossible in single player alone.

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It doesn't matter how much you complain ME3 proves that they don't listen.

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I do actually like the way multiplayer is tied in.... it's not a separate world to the singleplayer, it's actually happening in the ME world with Shepard. We're just taking part and controlling the people in it.

Still, I think no multiplayer would have been best.

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Duncaaaaaan wrote...

I do actually like the way multiplayer is tied in.... it's not a separate world to the singleplayer, it's actually happening in the ME world with Shepard. We're just taking part and controlling the people in it.

Still, I think no multiplayer would have been best.

I have no problem with multiplayer being included--I'm happy if people like it.  But I can't play it (and if I could I wouldn't want to) and I think it's unfair to tie a small but important part of the ending to whether or not you play multiplayer.  And then lie about it.

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Solution: Make the base multiplier 100%, which can be increased to 150% with multiplayer.

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Really?! So why does it say otherwise in the sticky? Are they outright lying, our you guys just can´t get a better ending on that playthrough? (I´m still at the beginning, but I´d seriously be pissed if this turns out to be true...I mean, come on Bioware. If you promise something, you ****in keep it!)

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solution would be to reduce the required assets for best ending to about 3200. it will still require you to be pretty completionist, but at least it will give people a bit more flexibility in their decisions instead of railroading them down a singular path through all 3 games (and I'm still not entirely convinced that you get enough resources even then)

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BlueDemonX wrote...

Really?! So why does it say otherwise in the sticky? Are they outright lying, our you guys just can´t get a better ending on that playthrough? (I´m still at the beginning, but I´d seriously be pissed if this turns out to be true...I mean, come on Bioware. If you promise something, you ****in keep it!)


multiple people have chimed in.  I think the highest I saw someone get was 3800 without multiplayer?  which is still 200 points short of so-called best ending.  I got 3600ish on my completionist playthrough with all ME2 DLC's and bring down the stars from ME1 (got extra assets through that as well). 

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it's cool that multiplayer has more of a purpose then in other games however I hate multiplayer on consoles I could have got ME3 on pc but I hate single player on PC's hmmm

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Indeed, i was hugely dissapointed when i found out that no matter what i do i can't get the ending i want. Did every single thing possible, still was about 600 points short or something like that. I'm also playing on the xbox and i dotn want to pay for the gold membership, so yeah, this sucks