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[Gloatie]

maxulic wrote...

You gain 3% of galactic readiness for every won match, that's 17 matches to go from 50% to 100%. It's about 4 hours of Bronze runs, then you just need to run one match every day to keep it at 100%, are you telling me that you can't spread 17 matches during your whole SP campaign?!

I truly and greatly enjoy the multiplayer.  Yet, I can understand that if one doesn't care for MP, then even 4 hours is too much.

(Additionally, the MP was botched on final release. A lot of people are having their unlocks and purchases randomly reset to beginning state.  So, even those of us who would happily log hour after hour are disuaded.)

Modifié par Gloatie, 12 mars 2012 - 03:40 .

[Travie]

Wtf... how hard would it have been to include a 1000 point 'completionist' bonus for getting all the missions done or exploring everything to 100%?

SERIOUSLY HOW HARD WOULD IT HAVE BEEN!?

[sackyhack]

fropas wrote...

Targy90 wrote...

So practically, in a year or so no one will be able to get the "optimal" (lol) ending since no one will be playing MP anymore. /facepalm

I'm sure BW will release DLC which "solves" that problem. As long as you're willing to pay.

They sort of already have.  The iPhone game lets you replay and gather as much intel as you have the patience for.  You upload that and it bumps up your galactic readiness.  Not ideal, but a $7 way to bump it up when multiplayer dies.

[Toshir]

Arttis wrote...

Toshir wrote...

It's hilarious how people can't stand human interaction. And it's not even real human interaction.

People cant take the pressures of socializing.
I can sympathize.

I can sympathize if there's a real human being you're being forced to interact with. I can udnerstand hating the mechanics but not trying jsut because there's other people is one of the foolish things I've ever heard. 

I can understand not wanting to buy gold but I don't want to hear someone being entitled to everything because of their sob stories.

[Lurch_454]

Bioware learned from the best scammers, EA.

[Indylavi]

Toshir wrote...
I can sympathize if there's a real human being you're being forced to interact with. I can udnerstand hating the mechanics but not trying jsut because there's other people is one of the foolish things I've ever heard. 

I can understand not wanting to buy gold but I don't want to hear someone being entitled to everything because of their sob stories.

To be fair, the only reason people feel entitled is because Bioware was quite adamant that MP would not be needed. It seems now this isn't the case. That is the main issue. I have tried the MP and yes it's fun. But I can't justify buying a Gold account just so I can get a few measly points. Especially, considering these few points will get lower each day I don't play MP.

I still stand by the idea that this is a maths issue. People are close. Only a few hundred points short. It seems more likely that Bioware simply made a mistake in calculating up the total. As someone suggested. A simple bonus of 1,000 or even 500 EMS for reaching the catalyst would fix this. I don't feel like they are purposely trying to screw me. I just am upset that a feature they almost went out of their way to say would not be affected. Is actually affected

[Gatt9]

Toshir wrote...

Babe Mause wrote...

Toshir wrote...

It's hilarious how people can't stand human interaction. And it's not even real human interaction.

Well, I tried MP today just to see what did BW spent money on instead of making good endings or nice romance conclusion with Jacob and Thane.

And it was the most boring **** I've ever played. Fighting waves of enemies till the time runs out is not my idea of fun. Even scanning planets in ME2 was more entertaining. Very disappointing experience, if you ask me.

At elast you tried it. People don't want to be "forced" to play a feature of a game because they don't like other humans or something. 

Actually,  the problem is that Multiplayer generally tends to be filled with people cursing at you,  griefing you,  and generally acting extremely unpleasent. I see no reason to put myself through dealing with people who aren't able to act like adults.

Which is the majority opinion,  numerous studies have shown that the number of people who participate in multiplayer,  especially open multiplayer,  are decidedly the minority.

In closing,  I'll state I'm censoring myself here.  I'd be more descriptive of why Multiplayer is terrible in any given game,  but I suspect I'd be bordering on breaking the rule at the top of the board.

[VintageUtti]

Indylavi wrote...

Toshir wrote...
I can sympathize if there's a real human being you're being forced to interact with. I can udnerstand hating the mechanics but not trying jsut because there's other people is one of the foolish things I've ever heard. 

I can understand not wanting to buy gold but I don't want to hear someone being entitled to everything because of their sob stories.

To be fair, the only reason people feel entitled is because Bioware was quite adamant that MP would not be needed. It seems now this isn't the case. That is the main issue. I have tried the MP and yes it's fun. But I can't justify buying a Gold account just so I can get a few measly points. Especially, considering these few points will get lower each day I don't play MP.

I still stand by the idea that this is a maths issue. People are close. Only a few hundred points short. It seems more likely that Bioware simply made a mistake in calculating up the total. As someone suggested. A simple bonus of 1,000 or even 500 EMS for reaching the catalyst would fix this. I don't feel like they are purposely trying to screw me. I just am upset that a feature they almost went out of their way to say would not be affected. Is actually affected

Agreed.  I had fun with MP in the demo and was planning to play it eventually but there was a huge emphasis on not needing MP to get the "best" ending for the game and I don't see how that's mathematically possible.  I'm sure I lost a few hundred points because of some ally decisions I made in ME3 but I don't see where the other 1,000 points is supposed to come from.  I was certain that scanning the entire galaxy to 100% and walking repeatedly back and forth on the Citadel to finish all those mini-quests would get me there but I could have saved myself so many hours if I had just hopped on MP instead.  Then of course there's the issue of replaying the game a year from now and needing to hop on MP again.

[Coder4Hire]

I think it comes down to the choices made throughout the entire series. I had 6000+ EMS without trying. Now if your Shepard was a renegade who was a jerk through the first two games then yes, you're probably coming up a bit short.

It's easy to get that many points when every race has your back. You can be a renegade, but you have to be a smart; you can't pick options just because they are "renegade".

[Tietj]

If one more person posts "I don't know what everyone's problem is, I got well over 5000 points already and I didn't try," I'm going to scream. I GUARANTEE you're confusing total military strength, which means nothing with regard to the endings, with effective military strength, which does. Please read through a thread before posting something in it.

[KBomb]

Coder4Hire wrote...

I think it comes down to the choices made throughout the entire series. I had 6000+ EMS without trying. Now if your Shepard was a renegade who was a jerk through the first two games then yes, you're probably coming up a bit short.

It's easy to get that many points when every race has your back. You can be a renegade, but you have to be a smart; you can't pick options just because they are "renegade".

  How could you possibly have 6,000+ EMS without MP? Screenshot, please.

[Tietj]

He doesn't. He's either confused about what stat we're talking about or he's played multiplayer and doesn't understand how that affects EMS. Not that I blame him, it isn't ever made clear.

[OMTING52601]

According to some feedback I've got, I shouldn't have gotten the ending I did based on my EMS. I was right at 3500, so no Master and Commander from me, I went renegade more than paragon with TIM throughout ME 2 and again in ME 3, but at the end I managed to get him to do that one thing he only does in specific cases, which apparently folks don't think should have happened in my case.

I picked green, so I don't know about deep breathing, and I just didn't have it in me to do the entire final run from you know where to you know where to test it out. But I only missed one quest, and it wasn't a failure it just never popped, and I was a little short and I didn't want to do MP the first time through. 

Modifié par OMTING52601, 12 mars 2012 - 04:54 .

[shepskisaac]

It's possible to get 8000 assets (for 4000 EMS), but you have to follow a strict path throughout the entire trilogy so yeah, most will have to play MP to get the best ending. I did everything in all games, made alot of beneficial choices yet was still 500 EMS short of best ending

[OMTING52601]

IsaacShep wrote...

It's possible to get 8000 assets (for 4000 EMS), but you have to follow a strict path throughout the entire trilogy so yeah, most will have to play MP to get the best ending. I did everything in all games, made alot of beneficial choices yet was still 500 EMS short of best ending

Well, that doesn't make sense, LOL! I believe you, I just don't get it. 

[K.L.Bryan]

I ended up with 338 EMS and I did every single scan, side mission, N7 mission and mini quest. I feel a little cheated. Is it confirmed that other thing qualify as War Assets in New Game +?

[IanPolaris]

IsaacShep wrote...

It's possible to get 8000 assets (for 4000 EMS), but you have to follow a strict path throughout the entire trilogy so yeah, most will have to play MP to get the best ending. I did everything in all games, made alot of beneficial choices yet was still 500 EMS short of best ending

To ask again (from another thread), do you know precisely what this path is?  It has to be a doozy to make up for about 1000 War Assets worth.

-Polaris

[Pani Mauser]

 Also, just checked, NG+ doesn't carry over your was assets, only your lvl, creds, weapons, reputation and such.Readiness lvl is still 50%, so no additional modyfier. And I have no idea how to get the 'secret NG+ending' (that Shepard breathing scene) promised by the guide unless you play MP or unless they add some specific NG+ systems to scan down the road (which I doubt). 

If war assets were carried over, it would be really easy in NG+. Last time I had less than 300 points till 4k EMS. But I have no idea where to get more.I had all allies from all the games, united all factions in joint effort, scanned 100% of resources available, made every possible side quest (and I checked guides, so I didn't miss anything), and I'm at a loss.
How much Ash is worth in War Assets? I don't use her anyway, so might as well send her to Earth if it gets me necessary amount of points.

I hoped NG+would carry over your assets, so you easily hit 5k, but no luck.

Modifié par Babe Mause, 12 mars 2012 - 05:10 .

[Tietj]

I'm pretty sure Ash and Kaidan are only worth 25.

[Pani Mauser]

Ugh. I guess alliance doesn't want a drunken spectre too XD

[KBomb]

 
From what I understand through talking with others and reading other threads on the subject, the NG+ ending is the Stargazer/Child ending. You get that through:
A) NG+
Importing a previous game character. Works like the Long Service Medal for ME2.


So actually, Deep Breath isn't the secret ending. You just need 4,000 EMS and “Save Anderson” to get it and choose “Destroy” or you must get 5,000 EMS and choose Destroy. Doing NG+ will not allow you to accumulate more EMS points so you either have to earn these mythical extra points in SP or supplement them through MP.


People keep claiming they have done this through SP only, though I have yet to see evidence of this, neither here or anywhere online. I have see others say it's possible if you follow a certain path, yet no one knows what this path is, so I fail to see how it could be definitive proof of it's existence.

Modifié par KBomb, 12 mars 2012 - 05:21 .

[TheLostGenius]

Well my first playthrough of ME3, I did get the best ending with 50% galactic readiness. However it was a "perfect paragon" exhaustive playthrough of both ME1-2, which unlocks troves of extra War Assets. I think I had somewhere close to 5k, at 50%, a little less maybe 4850? Its possible to do. Doing multiplayer raises it too much too quickly, sort of retcons all the effort you put into the prior games. That said I like how it works.

[Zalbik]

Too much to read so I am sure its been posted already and yes it would show SPOILERS

http://www.ign.com/w...ffect-3/Endings

Modifié par Zalbik, 12 mars 2012 - 05:25 .

[KBomb]

TheLostGenius wrote...

Well my first playthrough of ME3, I did get the best ending with 50% galactic readiness. However it was a "perfect paragon" exhaustive playthrough of both ME1-2, which unlocks troves of extra War Assets. I think I had somewhere close to 5k, at 50%, a little less maybe 4850? Its possible to do. Doing multiplayer raises it too much too quickly, sort of retcons all the effort you put into the prior games. That said I like how it works.

 
But how can a “pure” paragon ending do that? Without going into spoilers, I know of at least one decision that gains you more points for doing something “renegade”. Also, what “Best ending” are you referring to? I'd say with these endings being so similar, “best” can be loosely interpreted.

[Arttis]

I got imported form ME2 and got the stargazer ending with less than 3k EMS like 2890.