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Babe Mause wrote...

If you support Wrex, there's a chance to win Salarians support back later in the game. I did so, it is quite easy. Can PM how if you want to (since this is no spoiler forum). So, you can get both krogans and salarians with Wrex alive without editing.

But asari numbers still bug me, because the number difference is too big. It's like couple of major quests, not one or two lost sidequests. 
 


Sure. I'd appreciate that, but I thought that if he found out.....just tell me in PM!Image IPB

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Would you mind showing a screenshot of your assets?

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Elios wrote...

YOU can get the best ending with out and but yes youll have make some choices you dont like
but you get what you get if dont take the right route in the game this is nothing new

dont like the ending you get well you didnt make the right choices

none the less it is sill VERY hard you need 4000+ points to get the "good" ending
there are ~9000 points give or take in the game
with out MP you need to get 8000+ this is doable i did it on my first play but you have to do EVERY THING and you have to have re-writen the Geth and keep the Collecter base

screens plz

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Yeah; I've been to that page before but it won't download. Thanks anyway.

So it appears there is no legit way to hit 4000 EMS without MP. To make matters worse, it apparently drops back to 50% over time if you don't keep playing MP. Pathetic attempt to push the "feature" if you ask me.

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You people are missing the point.

This is Bioware/EA we are talking about and most of us agree that screwing us over is their norm. So if you want the readiness for the extra 3-second scene, that is BS anyways, then you will HAVE TO purchase future DLC to gain more war assets. That was likely their plan all along Image IPB

Modifié par Zalbik, 12 mars 2012 - 06:49 .


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Let me see if I'm getting this right. Just doing everything in ME3 isn't enough for a multiplayer-less best ending. You have to have made the right decisions in ME1 and 2. So people are complaining that their choices in previous games actually matter? I thought one of the complaints was that your choices didn't matter?

Which is it?

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Gravbh wrote...

Let me see if I'm getting this right. Just doing everything in ME3 isn't enough for a multiplayer-less best ending. You have to have made the right decisions in ME1 and 2. So people are complaining that their choices in previous games actually matter? I thought one of the complaints was that your choices didn't matter?

Which is it?


Well, neither. The complaint seems to be this: why should multiplayer make up for "bad" decisions in ME and ME2 when single player does not also allow a way to make up for those same "bad" decisions?

That's how I understand the problem, at least.

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I'd say that's a good interpretation, sweetie.

Choice doesn't matter if there is no choice. If the only 'choice' is BW's, and not the PC's, then the argument becomes playing the game in order to achieve maximum EMS instead of playing the game to tell a unique Shep tale.

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I'm kinda building up a rage reading this thread. I havn't finished the game yet, mind you, so I don't really know wether I'll be able to get the "best" ending, but I had absolutely NO intention whatsoever to play the multiplayer!
I mean, I was worried something like this would be the result of them including multiplayer, and then that BioWarian wrote the sticky, and I was so relieved. Then I come to the forums, and find this thread...

Man, I am SO mad at BioWare/EA/whatever right now!

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Wait, I need fish for the asset too? Fish in ME2 dies for me like in 2 days....lol

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You can keep the fish alive if you have that date with Kelley Chambers in number two. She'll say something about your fish and tell you she'll be glad to take care of them when you're off ship.

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OMTING52601 wrote...

You can keep the fish alive if you have that date with Kelley Chambers in number two. She'll say something about your fish and tell you she'll be glad to take care of them when you're off ship.


Or you can buy a fish feeding AI for 25,000 credits. Is it really true that fish are a war asset?

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I think they are going to release a patch which will reduce the amount of EMS required to achieve the best Ending. Because it's impossible without Multiplayer.

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Gravbh wrote...

Let me see if I'm getting this right. Just doing everything in ME3 isn't enough for a multiplayer-less best ending. You have to have made the right decisions in ME1 and 2. So people are complaining that their choices in previous games actually matter? I thought one of the complaints was that your choices didn't matter?

Which is it?




 
Uh, nope. The majority are upset that in spite of making these decisions (decisions presented by those who claim to have 4,000 EMS+) they still cannot get their score up to par.


Some are complaining about the fact that Bioware has stated many times that you do not need MP to reach the optimal EMS in order to gain the “Perfect Ending”, yet it seems that you do. (Yes, I know many have claimed to get it, but the only proof we've managed to see are misunderstood at best, dubious at worst)


Some do not want to employ MP into their SP experience. They feel if those decisions you made are so very important to the plot to the point of determining the outcome of the game—you shouldn't be able to supplement them by playing Horde. It lessons them.


I won't even go into those who are upset because they don't have a ME1 save to import, or they don't have XBL in order to supplement those points they missed.


There are a lot of reason why this mess stinks.

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My EMS(Around 3200) is maxed out and I have over 5000 war assets. Do I still have to play multiplier in order to get the "good" ending?

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forza_juve44 wrote...

My EMS(Around 3200) is maxed out and I have over 5000 war assets. Do I still have to play multiplier in order to get the "good" ending?


Your war assets help build your EMS. EMS of 3200 is not enough. You'd need 4000 and with the 50% war readiness multiplier you'd have 8000 total military strength.

Edit: that is, war assets help build TMS. EMS is the score after the 50% multiplier is applied. basic math errors, i swear. *rolls eyes at self* no wonder this is so confusing for most of us!

Modifié par sweetie, 13 mars 2012 - 01:27 .


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sweetie wrote...

forza_juve44 wrote...

My EMS(Around 3200) is maxed out and I have over 5000 war assets. Do I still have to play multiplier in order to get the "good" ending?


Your war assets help build your EMS. EMS of 3200 is not enough. You'd need 4000 and with the 50% war readiness multiplier you'd have 8000 total military strength.


What the hell am I supossed to do?  I've scanned every planet and I'm quests shy of finishing all side quests. I really have no choise but to start doing multiplayer? 

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I can see the complaints that it would take a NG+ or DLC to get full war assets without Multiplayer is something valid.

But do you really hate multiplayer so much that this is an issue? It's actually very good.

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Hyrist wrote...

I can see the complaints that it would take a NG+ or DLC to get full war assets without Multiplayer is something valid.

But do you really hate multiplayer so much that this is an issue? It's actually very good.


I don't hate multiplayer. I play Call of Duty, Sw:Tor, Wow(used to), etc..... I feel as if Mass Effect should have stayed a single player game. There are just some games that shouldn't  be touched in that way....

Modifié par forza_juve44, 12 mars 2012 - 08:26 .


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NG+ does not matter. I tried it today. War assets do not carry over, only your xp, creds, weapons armor and reputation. So, even if I do the same drill again, I have no idea where to get those additional points without MP. Unless, there is some hidden NG+multiplier that influences amount of EMS gained.

But I have zero desire to play through the game again unless they change something about the endings.

Also, to each their own. I find MP very boring. Six map with the same objectives - fight waves of enemies until the time runs out. I played it once, can't see myself playing it again.

Modifié par Babe Mause, 12 mars 2012 - 08:28 .


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Ridiculous, and when you think about it. What about the people who played the story version of the game? Where the combat was super easy? It doesn't make sense for to force people who only want the story to play combat focused MP.

That's not me but it's incredibly amazing how BioWare could lie like that, they'll probably try to back-track and play the semantics game. I'm 30 hours into the game and my readiness rating still sits at 50%, thanks BioWare.

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Hyrist wrote...

I can see the complaints that it would take a NG+ or DLC to get full war assets without Multiplayer is something valid.

But do you really hate multiplayer so much that this is an issue? It's actually very good.


Some do not have access to multiplayer, there are a lot of people that are unwilling to pay $60 a year for xbox live.  Aside from the fact this was meant to be a single player franchise and Bioware said on many occasions that MP would not affect SP at all, but then Bioware says a lot of things these days.

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You can definitely get EMS up to 4,000 or above without the multiplayer. I did using the ios game. All you have to do is collect intel packets in the ios game and upload them towards galactic readiness. It only took a few hours for me to get from 50% to 100%. If you don't want to play the multiplayer, it is a pretty good option. It does cost an extra $7, though.

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Mandabug345 wrote...

You can definitely get EMS up to 4,000 or above without the multiplayer. I did using the ios game. All you have to do is collect intel packets in the ios game and upload them towards galactic readiness. It only took a few hours for me to get from 50% to 100%. If you don't want to play the multiplayer, it is a pretty good option. It does cost an extra $7, though.


IOS game?

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This is stupid. It would make sense in a multiplayer focused game like Battlefield or COD. But this is a single player focused series, based on our decision and choices.

I'm still not going to play online though, that's obviously what BioWare/EA want out of this.

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Mandabug345 wrote...]  If you don't want to play the multiplayer, it is a pretty good option. It does cost an extra $7, though.


Think you need to add a couple of hundred dollars onto that equation because you need to own an iphone/ipad to play it.  It is pretty scandalous that people have paid top dollar for a game and they can't even "complete" it without doing some other mandatory crap that no one cares about.