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[Zalbik]

Sorkatani Loki wrote...

You CAN get all possible endings without MP - I did.

You need to focus on your EMS and JUST that in your SP.

So long as you made the right decision throughout all three games and do all the required side quests and scanning missions you can get the necessary amount of war assets.

http://social.bioware.com/forum/Mass-Effect-3/Mass-Effect-3-General-Discussion-No-ME3-Spoilers-allowed/A-note-about-multiplayer-in-relation-to-the-quotperfect-endingquot-9665384-1.html

http://videogamewriters.com/bioware-explains-how-to-achieve-perfect-mass-effect-3-ending-without-multiplayer-40890/

I would love to belive you. Could you take a nice pic of your War Assets screen and post it.

[Pobatti]

Sorkatani Loki wrote...

You CAN get all possible endings without MP - I did.

You need to focus on your EMS and JUST that in your SP.

So long as you made the right decision throughout all three games and do all the required side quests and scanning missions you can get the necessary amount of war assets.

http://social.bioware.com/forum/Mass-Effect-3/Mass-Effect-3-General-Discussion-No-ME3-Spoilers-allowed/A-note-about-multiplayer-in-relation-to-the-quotperfect-endingquot-9665384-1.html

http://videogamewriters.com/bioware-explains-how-to-achieve-perfect-mass-effect-3-ending-without-multiplayer-40890/

Let's assume that this is correct, since all evidence seems to point that way. There's still a fly in the ointment - unless folks can get the best possible ending with 'just Mass Effect 3', i.e. no ME1, ME2 or DLC for ME1,2 or 3. Does this STILL mean you will need to have purchased every possible Mass Effect product to have this possibility?

For example, I have ME1, ME2 and ME3. I have NO DLC for ANY of the games - they're just base retail versions. Would it be possible for me to go through from ME1 to ME3 and get the best possible ending if I did everything in a particular way throughout all 3 games - or would I forever be denied the possibility due to missing ME1 and ME2 (and ME3) DLC?

If this means that the majority of us need to download our saves from http://masseffectsaves.com rather than following our own Shepard through the entire trilogy, how is this fair? Doesn't this completely remove the entire purpose of the import mechanic - and effectively the first two games - if you didn't buy all their DLC? 

Modifié par Pobatti, 13 mars 2012 - 03:47 .

[Klaz]

Pobatti wrote...
rather than following our own Shepard through the entire trilogy, how is this fair?

It sounds like you're more interested in following the Shepard that gets the "best" ending, and not YOUR Shepard anyway.

[HolyAvenger]

I really need to see a screenie from someone who has got the best ending without MP. My experience with ME3 is that it is impossible. I imported a golden-ending Paragon playthrough of ME1/2, stuck with a Paragon character in 3, did every sidequest, got just about virtually every asset through scanning/conversations etc (missed out on a few through glitches etc). Just reached 3800, nowhere near reaching 5000...seems impossible.

[The Sarendoctrinator]

Sorkatani Loki wrote...

You CAN get all possible endings without MP - I did.

You need to focus on your EMS and JUST that in your SP.

So long as you made the right decision throughout all three games and do all the required side quests and scanning missions you can get the necessary amount of war assets.

So if I do all of the quests listed in the guide (which I planned on anyway), then there's a good chance I'll be able to get the right endings? I really hope it works. I'd also like to know if DLC is required for this. I have none.

[Pobatti]

Klaz wrote...

Pobatti wrote...
rather than following our own Shepard through the entire trilogy, how is this fair?

It sounds like you're more interested in following the Shepard that gets the "best" ending, and not YOUR Shepard anyway.

There's a distinction between creating your own Shepard (how he/she looks for example) and playing through the whole series yourself, and the alternative which is basically grabbing a stock Vanderloo Shepard from that site (which isn't right if you've been playing as a completely customised one for the past two games), whatever he/she is required to do you need to be there as he/she does it, yes?

Modifié par Pobatti, 13 mars 2012 - 03:53 .

[Klaz]

Pobatti wrote...
There's a distinction between creating your own Shepard (how he/she looks for example) and playing through the whole series yourself, and just cutting corners and grabbing a stock Vanderloo Shepard from that site which isn't right if you've been playing as a completely customised one for the past two games...

If you imported a completed save from ME2 you could change your appearance anyway.


Did you have a point with this post?

[KBomb]

Zalbik wrote...


I would love to belive you. Could you take a nice pic of your War Assets screen and post it.

This, please.

[devSin]

Zalbik wrote...

I would love to belive you. Could you take a nice pic of your War Assets screen and post it.

I think this person is talking about the three different endings (the third needs 2800 or so, which is easy to get).

Either they don't know or are purposely omitting the one where Shepard "lives", which is the ending nearly everyone considers the "perfect" ending (and BioWare knew full well that this would be the case, even if they later try to say that they were only talking about the merge ending being possible and not the deep breath).

Modifié par devSin, 13 mars 2012 - 04:00 .

[Serenity84]

Pobatti wrote...
As I said earlier, in my no-import playthrough I managed to get hold of something related to the final boss of ME2 which is quite a good war asset. Since I've no idea whether the base was destroyed in this scenario, I can't say for sure if this can be gotten if the base was destroyed - it's looking like you get more points if you give the base to TIM from where I'm standing - but I haven't seen the ramifications of the 'other' decision yet, and can't say which was 'canon' in my game since it wasn't imported from a save where I know what I did.

That's not what I meant. It was more like if the base was kept you only need 2000 points whereas the same outcome with the base destroyed requires 2300 points. Not sure if that was true

[Pobatti]

 

Klaz wrote...

It sounds like you're more interested in following the Shepard that gets the "best" ending, and not YOUR Shepard anyway.

 

Klaz wrote...

If you imported a completed save from ME2 you could change your appearance anyway.

Did you have a point with this post?

Yes. We have three games - THREE. Most of us have all three.

It's one thing to suddenly be presented with a list of things we need to do within those two games to set ourselves up for the third - because we'd be able to go back and do them. No problem.

However, if EVERY bit of DLC is required in our saves in order to generate the best potential ME3 import, 99% of us (everyone who has DLC but not ALL of it, everyone who has NONE) has no chance. That means our games suddenly lose the meaning we've always placed on them since to get the best endings, we need to download other people's saves off the net, cutting the ties between ME1/2 and 3.

What I'm saying is, 99.9% of us (who can't or won't play MP) have been promised the possibility to get the perfect ending offline - but if that possibility only exists to a small percentage of folks who've gotten everything over the years, then all the rest of us are forced to 'cheat' and grab someone else's save game. It's just not the same as doing it yourself, no matter how you describe or rationalise it.

It's the difference between going back and spending a month replaying the first two games, and 'click, click, done'. At least you have the satisfaction you're doing the work yourself.

Modifié par Pobatti, 13 mars 2012 - 04:04 .

[Klaz]

Pobatti wrote...
It's one thing to suddenly be presented with a list of things we need to do within those two games to set ourselves up for the third - because we'd be able to go back and do them. No problem.

However, if EVERY bit of DLC is required in our saves in order to generate the best potential ME3 import, 99% of us (everyone who has DLC but not ALL of it, everyone who has NONE) has no chance. That means our games suddenly lose the meaning we've always placed on them since to get the best endings, we need to download other people's saves off the net, cutting the ties between ME1/2 and 3.

So do the math, ignore the spoilers and add it up.

http://masseffect.wi...wiki/War_Assets

[Zalbik]

devSin wrote...

Zalbik wrote...

I would love to belive you. Could you take a nice pic of your War Assets screen and post it.

I think this person is talking about the three different endings (the third needs 2800 or so, which is easy to get).

Either they don't know or are purposely omitting the one where Shepard "lives", which is the ending nearly everyone considers the "perfect" ending (and BioWare knew full well that this would be the case, even if they later try to say that they were only talking about the merge ending being possible and not the deep breath).

I think you are correct

[Nachtritter76]

Sorkatani Loki wrote...

You CAN get all possible endings without MP - I did.

You need to focus on your EMS and JUST that in your SP.

So long as you made the right decision throughout all three games and do all the required side quests and scanning missions you can get the necessary amount of war assets.

http://social.bioware.com/forum/Mass-Effect-3/Mass-Effect-3-General-Discussion-No-ME3-Spoilers-allowed/A-note-about-multiplayer-in-relation-to-the-quotperfect-endingquot-9665384-1.html

http://videogamewriters.com/bioware-explains-how-to-achieve-perfect-mass-effect-3-ending-without-multiplayer-40890/

Show pics of 4000+ EMS with 50% Readiness.

Please.

Those posts are known already. Have been referenced. No proof given that it is possible to attain 4000 EMS in SP only. Not without coalesced.bin editing.

So please, provide proof.

[The Sarendoctrinator]

Serenity84 wrote...

That's not what I meant. It was more like if the base was kept you only need 2000 points whereas the same outcome with the base destroyed requires 2300 points. Not sure if that was true

The guide does list different values needed depending on your decision with the base, but it's the same on both sides for the ending we're trying to get. 4000-5000. Can't give details on that range because spoilers aren't allowed here.

[jimmy_smith]

Sorkatani Loki wrote...

You CAN get all possible endings without MP - I did.

You need to focus on your EMS and JUST that in your SP.

So long as you made the right decision throughout all three games and do all the required side quests and scanning missions you can get the necessary amount of war assets.

http://social.bioware.com/forum/Mass-Effect-3/Mass-Effect-3-General-Discussion-No-ME3-Spoilers-allowed/A-note-about-multiplayer-in-relation-to-the-quotperfect-endingquot-9665384-1.html

http://videogamewriters.com/bioware-explains-how-to-achieve-perfect-mass-effect-3-ending-without-multiplayer-40890/

Nope, it's impossible. All they say in that thread is a totally lie.(or half true,at best)
They edited the topic from "You can get the best ending without multiplayers" to "you can get the ending without multiplayer"

but they didn't edited the info, so in that tread, it's remained about 
"You can get the best ending without multiplayer", which's totally lie. 

You need 4,000 EMS to get the best ending, without playing multiplayer that's mean you need 8,000 war asset.

All screen-capture I see so far, the highest war asset you can get is around 7,600.
Anything more than, don't have any pic to prove their claim.

[Nachtritter76]

Klaz wrote...

Pobatti wrote...
It's one thing to suddenly be presented with a list of things we need to do within those two games to set ourselves up for the third - because we'd be able to go back and do them. No problem.

However, if EVERY bit of DLC is required in our saves in order to generate the best potential ME3 import, 99% of us (everyone who has DLC but not ALL of it, everyone who has NONE) has no chance. That means our games suddenly lose the meaning we've always placed on them since to get the best endings, we need to download other people's saves off the net, cutting the ties between ME1/2 and 3.

So do the math, ignore the spoilers and add it up.

http://masseffect.wi...wiki/War_Assets

I did that already.

In the best case, you'll get around ~7.700 TOTAL War Assets --- or 3.850 EMS. Still over 200 points away from 8.000 TOTAL points needed for 4.000 EMS.

[Klaz]

Nachtritter76 wrote...
In the best case, you'll get around ~7.700 TOTAL War Assets --- or 3.850 EMS. Still over 200 points away from 8.000 TOTAL points needed for 4.000 EMS.

Send me a message with the choices that lead to this amount please, in case others aren't interested in the spoilers.

[Nachtritter76]

Nachtritter76 wrote...

Klaz wrote...

Pobatti wrote...
It's one thing to suddenly be presented with a list of things we need to do within those two games to set ourselves up for the third - because we'd be able to go back and do them. No problem.

However, if EVERY bit of DLC is required in our saves in order to generate the best potential ME3 import, 99% of us (everyone who has DLC but not ALL of it, everyone who has NONE) has no chance. That means our games suddenly lose the meaning we've always placed on them since to get the best endings, we need to download other people's saves off the net, cutting the ties between ME1/2 and 3.

So do the math, ignore the spoilers and add it up.

http://masseffect.wi...wiki/War_Assets

I did that already.

Accounted for all choices that matter, throughout all three games, and their impact in ME3. I may even have forgotten to DEDUCE some points, but anything that ADDED to the assets (excluding the lower scores in the cases of MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE assets), I calculated.

All in all, in the best case, you'll get around ~7.700 TOTAL War Assets (actual number was 7.680-something) --- or 3.850 EMS. Still over 200 points away from 8.000 TOTAL points needed for 4.000 EMS.

[CmonCmon]

http://videogamewrit...tiplayer-40890/

That one goes AGAINST you.

“You do NOT have to play multiplayer to get the best single-player endings,” Lee said. There are enough War Assets in the single-player campaign to maximize this bar.”

This is true but you need MORE than the assets to fill the bar to get the endings.

Modifié par CmonCmon, 13 mars 2012 - 04:35 .

[Nachtritter76]

Klaz wrote...

Nachtritter76 wrote...
In the best case, you'll get around ~7.700 TOTAL War Assets --- or 3.850 EMS. Still over 200 points away from 8.000 TOTAL points needed for 4.000 EMS.

Send me a message with the choices that lead to this amount please, in case others aren't interested in the spoilers.

I accounted for all choices that matter,
throughout all three games, and their impact in ME3. I may even have
forgotten to REDUCE some points, but anything that ADDED to the assets
(excluding the lower scores in the cases of MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE assets),
I calculated.

Everything. I must have spent over an hour going over it again. Like I said, the only things I did NOT check twice were the choices that REDUCED points instead of adding.

Modifié par Nachtritter76, 13 mars 2012 - 04:51 .

[Klaz]

Nachtritter76 wrote...

I accounted for all choices that matter,
throughout all three games, and their impact in ME3. I may even have
forgotten to DEDUCE some points, but anything that ADDED to the assets
(excluding the lower scores in the cases of MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE assets),
I calculated.

Everything. I must have spent over an hour going over it again. Like I said, the only things I did check twice were the choices that DEDUCED points instead of adding.

Without you actually detailing what you counted, I won't be able to argue.


Thanks anyway I guess.

[2484Stryker]

Looks like MP is yet another way to squeeze more money out of us fans and into the hands of both EA and Microsoft. Sad, truly sad. They entice you to spend real money to unlock MP items, and for those of us play on 360, spend money to get Live Gold.

[LadyBlueSweetie]

Seems like you're arguing just fine actually.