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My TMS just prior to the assault on TIM's base
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Elios wrote...

its not like MS just started charging for gold when ME3 came out every one knew it would MP and that it COULD have a impact on SP and that if you played on a 360 you have to pay extra for MP on the 360

the anger should directed at MS for charging for MP in the frist place if you dont like that you have to pay for it on the 360 DONT BUY A 360 
geting a 360 and complanging about paying for MP on it is like buying WoW and complaining you have pay a monthly fee to play it 
want free MP get a PS3 or get the game for PC 

Im not disagreeing. However the fact remains that xbox users have to pay exorbitant amounts of money to play this game. And if the only "online" game the user is playing is me3, then its basically just a subscription for WoW, except me3 is not a comparison in terms of content, for the same cost. I dont know a solution, nor do i particularly care tbh, so i go post elsewhere, its just funny.

Modifié par ncknck, 13 mars 2012 - 12:35 .


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Btw this DOES concern ps3 users too. Because PSN could be made pay2play too. Sony isnt greedy?

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@HolyAvenger: Check if you have the London.

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Elios wrote...

i said this all be for ncknck
the REAL issue is that XBL has a fee if you want to play on line with it and this has always been the case and imo if you buy a 360(and i do own one) then you need to be prepared to pay the fee if you want/need to play on line
now ME3 does come with 2 days free for XBL gold so if you use it right at lest your first few plays you dont have pay the on line fee
but im sorry if you can afford a 360, internet, a HD TV and a 60 buck game you can put down the cash for XBL Gold once in a wile if you dont like it trade in for a PS3 or play on PC


Your argument certainly justifies the developers evidently dishonestly claiming the "best" ending being attainable without use of multiplayer.

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Juromaro wrote...

Not Bioware's fault that Microsoft refuses to go the route of PSN and offer free internet on the console. Bioware isn't forcing XBL gold down your throat...Microsoft is. Which is why I refuse to play games that require internet on the xbox, I'll play it on PC or PS3 instead where the only thing I have to pay for is my internet and not console service + internet.


Yeah it pretty much is. They chose to make it "impossible" to get the best ending without MP, even if it was possible you still have to do a ton of pointlessly crap side quests to make it happen.

There is no reason to lock readiness at 50% unless to force people online. Completing SP missions in the same areas could easily have the same outcome. Or even letting you run the MP maps with your AI squads. Sounds like a lot more fun than collecting XXX for YYY sidequests.

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Is EMS locked after I begin the assault on the Cerberus base? Or can I still increase it by playing multiplayer? I started the assault on the base last night with a TMS of about 7400 so EMS of 3700...did everything I could think of without playing MP but apparently you need at least 4000 EMS to get "best" ending. I was going to go ahead and do multiplayer to get the last 300 EMS points but is it too late?

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ncknck wrote...

I dont understand the rage here. Dev said it would be possible, and it is possible. But you had to be pretty naive to expect them not to do it the hard way. Because obviously they wanted to reduce piracy on ebay or torrents. 

Just play a couple of games online problem solved. Very well done Bioware btw.


BioWare claimed that multiplayer would not be required for the "best" ending.  Insisting that players wishing to see the "best" ending take action that they were previously told would not be required for the "best" ending is dishonest.

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@HolyAvenger: Check if you have the London.


Can't find the London. Think I was pretty thorough with my scanning so unless it came with a quest I screwed up (i.e. I don't have the Hanar/Drell points thanks to that one glitching out) I don't think its in there.

Ships that did update:
Shanghai
Agincourt
Leipzig
Nairobi
Trafalgar

Eden Prime is only worth a 100, can't see that tipping the points. 

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CmonCmon wrote...

Can you only use the save editor once per character? My subsequent attempts to ensure I'd have 5000...just in case...have failed. It is at 4640 though so I have enough here,just don't know if I have enough for the "save" part.


Save may be modified multiple times as needed or desired.

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I did every side quest I could find and I used a guide to get every thing I could get by scanning, I ended up with slightly over 3700 EMS which isn't enough to get what I consider the 'best' ending.

It turns out the best ending has nothing to do with what you do in the game or even what happened in the previous 2 games it's down to multi-player.

I enjoyed the game, at least until the end, but between day one DLC, auto-dialogue, animations, import bug and now this it's left a sour taste in my mouth if I'm honest

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Is there a save editor for ME3 yet so can modify the war assets like you could with credits and stuff in ME2?

Modifié par 101ezylonhxeT, 13 mars 2012 - 01:04 .


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I didn't play the MP at all. I amassed 2987 EMS (TMS is double). I got all 3 choices in the end with the Joker/Edi scene followed by the Stargazer/kid post-credits ending. There is no need to play MP at all.

P.S I imported an ME2 save

Modifié par Torrible, 13 mars 2012 - 01:04 .


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101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Is there a save editor for ME3 yet so can modify the war assets like you could with credits and stuff in ME2?


Yes.

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Torrible wrote...

I didn't play the MP at all. I amassed 2987 EMS (TMS is double). I got all 3 choices in the end with the Joker/Edi scene followed by the Stargazer/kid post-credits ending. There is no need to play MP at all.

P.S I imported an ME2 save


You should need 3000-3100 did you save the collector base?

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Torrible wrote...

I didn't play the MP at all. I amassed 2987 EMS (TMS is double). I got all 3 choices in the end with the Joker/Edi scene followed by the Stargazer/kid post-credits ending. There is no need to play MP at all.

P.S I imported an ME2 save


The presence of three choices is not indicative of unlocking the "best" ending.

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Torrible wrote...

I didn't play the MP at all. I amassed 2987 EMS (TMS is double). I got all 3 choices in the end with the Joker/Edi scene followed by the Stargazer/kid post-credits ending. There is no need to play MP at all.

P.S I imported an ME2 save


You should need 3000-3100 did you save the collector base?


No I destroyed it.

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Dimensio wrote...

Torrible wrote...

I didn't play the MP at all. I amassed 2987 EMS (TMS is double). I got all 3 choices in the end with the Joker/Edi scene followed by the Stargazer/kid post-credits ending. There is no need to play MP at all.

P.S I imported an ME2 save


The presence of three choices is not indicative of unlocking the "best" ending.


It is. Having 5000 EMS means you can get the best endings even if you have low reputation and did none of the interrupts. Having lower EMS means you need a high rep and have to do a bit more work during the cutscenes.

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Dimensio wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Is there a save editor for ME3 yet so can modify the war assets like you could with credits and stuff in ME2?


Yes.


Yay. But....given my blindness...where exactly are the war assets stored when a save is opened in this editor?

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Dimensio wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Is there a save editor for ME3 yet so can modify the war assets like you could with credits and stuff in ME2?


Yes.


Will that work on xbox?

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Torrible wrote...

Dimensio wrote...

Torrible wrote...

I didn't play the MP at all. I amassed 2987 EMS (TMS is double). I got all 3 choices in the end with the Joker/Edi scene followed by the Stargazer/kid post-credits ending. There is no need to play MP at all.

P.S I imported an ME2 save


The presence of three choices is not indicative of unlocking the "best" ending.


It is. Having 5000 EMS means you can get the best endings even if you have low reputation and did none of the interrupts. Having lower EMS means you need a high rep and have to do a bit more work during the cutscenes.


I am certain, then, that you will be able to provide documentation showing that the "Shepard lives" teaser is accessible with an Effective Military Readiness below 4000.  Please do so.

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101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Dimensio wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Is there a save editor for ME3 yet so can modify the war assets like you could with credits and stuff in ME2?


Yes.


Will that work on xbox?


Yes.

I would reference an image of the XBox 360 version of the game showing a Total Military Strength in excess of 12,000, but I had misplaced my camera last night.

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Dimensio wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Dimensio wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Is there a save editor for ME3 yet so can modify the war assets like you could with credits and stuff in ME2?


Yes.


Will that work on xbox?


Yes.

I would reference an image of the XBox 360 version of the game showing a Total Military Strength in excess of 12,000, but I had misplaced my camera last night.


Sweet thanks for the info :]

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Dimensio wrote...

Torrible wrote...

Dimensio wrote...

Torrible wrote...

I didn't play the MP at all. I amassed 2987 EMS (TMS is double). I got all 3 choices in the end with the Joker/Edi scene followed by the Stargazer/kid post-credits ending. There is no need to play MP at all.

P.S I imported an ME2 save


The presence of three choices is not indicative of unlocking the "best" ending.


It is. Having 5000 EMS means you can get the best endings even if you have low reputation and did none of the interrupts. Having lower EMS means you need a high rep and have to do a bit more work during the cutscenes.


I am certain, then, that you will be able to provide documentation showing that the "Shepard lives" teaser is accessible with an Effective Military Readiness below 4000.  Please do so.


I did a little research and I'm happy to report that ....I'm wrong. :P
I thought having the perfect Synthetic ending means I'd get the perfect Destroy ending as well. My mistake. I suppose it's impossible to get TMS of 8000 in the main game?

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Torrible wrote...

Dimensio wrote...

Torrible wrote...

Dimensio wrote...

Torrible wrote...

I didn't play the MP at all. I amassed 2987 EMS (TMS is double). I got all 3 choices in the end with the Joker/Edi scene followed by the Stargazer/kid post-credits ending. There is no need to play MP at all.

P.S I imported an ME2 save


The presence of three choices is not indicative of unlocking the "best" ending.


It is. Having 5000 EMS means you can get the best endings even if you have low reputation and did none of the interrupts. Having lower EMS means you need a high rep and have to do a bit more work during the cutscenes.


I am certain, then, that you will be able to provide documentation showing that the "Shepard lives" teaser is accessible with an Effective Military Readiness below 4000.  Please do so.


I did a little research and I'm happy to report that ....I'm wrong. :P
I thought having the perfect Synthetic ending means I'd get the perfect Destroy ending as well. My mistake. I suppose it's impossible to get TMS of 8000 in the main game?



That has been the conclusion reached through this discussion.