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[Dimensio]

RGC_Ines wrote...

ncknck wrote...

what, is it possible to edit xbox360 saves easily? You mean copy to PC and stuff?

You can easilly mod ME2 and ME3 saves for Xbox 360 version. You will need
-USBXTAFGUI
-MODIO
-Gibbed ME2 save editor for ME2 and ME3 save editor ( still in buildling) for ME3

USBXTAFGUI is not required.  Modio version 3 and Gibbed's editors are sufficient.

[BounceDK]

Failgame.

[RGC_Ines]

Dimensio wrote...
USBXTAFGUI is not required.  Modio version 3 and Gibbed's editors are sufficient.

Thanks for info ..Didn't know that, so I always used USBX

[Starscream723]

Could somebody post a non-spoilery list of how many EMS points you need to get the different endings? eg: Best = XXXX points, Okay = XXXX points, Worst = XXXX points.

Or if it doesn't work like that, just say "it doesn't work like that".

[Dimensio]

Starscream723 wrote...

Could somebody post a non-spoilery list of how many EMS points you need to get the different endings? eg: Best = XXXX points, Okay = XXXX points, Worst = XXXX points.

Or if it doesn't work like that, just say "it doesn't work like that".

A minimum of 4000 Effective Military Strength is required for the "best" ending.

An Effective Military Strength lower than 1750 will result in the worst ending.

[Starscream723]

Dimensio wrote...

Starscream723 wrote...

Could somebody post a non-spoilery list of how many EMS points you need to get the different endings? eg: Best = XXXX points, Okay = XXXX points, Worst = XXXX points.

Or if it doesn't work like that, just say "it doesn't work like that".

A minimum of 4000 Effective Military Strength is required for the "best" ending.

An Effective Military Strength lower than 1750 will result in the worst ending.

What do you need to get the "best-except-for-that-one-missing-scene" ending?

[hudakj]

4000+ is the minimum required, but also requires an additional variable. You need 5000+ to get the best regardless.

You must make a choice on how you want to save the galaxy at the very end, and the "best" is only possible if you choose one particular method.

Modifié par hudakj, 13 mars 2012 - 06:02 .

[byzantine horse]

I don't get this. On one hand you have people raging about their choices having no consequence, on the other they rage about their choices having consequences in the way that they can not achieve the best ending. WTF is wrong with you people? You can't have the cake and eat it.

[Pani Mauser]

Adeph wrote...

It's probably already been mentioned but I thought I'd ask.

I ended up short of the 4000 needed to get what is in my opinion the best ending and I did everything I could find. However I never bought the day one DLC, is it possible you could earn 400+ EMS there?

No, you get only 100 points for Eden Prime support if you find all the datapads, and that's all.

[grimkillah]

Now I am not saying EA might or is doing this, but if I were given the job of milking maximum amount of cash from fans, I would make sure that to achieve 4000+ in EMS without MP can only be obtained with 3 future DLCs, so I can say to the public that the best ending can be obtained by SP alone, while forgetting to mention the small print that rest of the points is in future DLCs. Technically EA would be still telling the truth.

Anyway two questions, what is the net Gain/Loss of saving the council in ME1? And the net Gain/Loss of rewriting the Geth heretics? I read on ME wikia that it is better off kill the Geth in ME2 and let Council die in ME1, a net gain in TMS instead of a net loss. Can anyone confirm that?

[Starscream723]

byzantine horse wrote...

I don't get this. On one hand you have people raging about their choices having no consequence, on the other they rage about their choices having consequences in the way that they can not achieve the best ending. WTF is wrong with you people? You can't have the cake and eat it.

One would assume they're referring to choices and decisions made within the single player campaign. You expect those to affect your ending.

Somehow I don't think the choice as to whether or not you pay a monthly subscription to microsoft in order to play an additional multiplayer mode in order to be able to get the best single player ending is the kind of choice to which those people were referring.

[Dimensio]

byzantine horse wrote...

I don't get this. On one hand you have people raging about their choices having no consequence, on the other they rage about their choices having consequences in the way that they can not achieve the best ending. WTF is wrong with you people? You can't have the cake and eat it.

You have not demonstrated that an Effective Military Strength in excess of 4000 is attainable without use of multiplayer.

[byzantine horse]

Dimensio wrote...

byzantine horse wrote...

I don't get this. On one hand you have people raging about their choices having no consequence, on the other they rage about their choices having consequences in the way that they can not achieve the best ending. WTF is wrong with you people? You can't have the cake and eat it.

You have not demonstrated that an Effective Military Strength in excess of 4000 is attainable without use of multiplayer.

I read the OP carefully to such a degree that I understood that it isn't possible to achieve 4k EMS if you pick sub-optimal choices throughout the 3 games in the series. In short, your choices matter because you need all optimal choices to get the best ending (obviously) and most people don't pick the best choices (obviously) and are then angry when they (obviously) don't get the best ending. Now please tell me how their choices didn't matter?

The crux is that the choices didn't matter in the way they wanted them to and they are angry because they lost.

Modifié par byzantine horse, 13 mars 2012 - 06:12 .

[iReplaya]

my current EMS is around 2800, so Bioware is saying i need to rip all of the money out of my pocket to play my ALREADY BOUGHT game with a perfect (i think satisfying idk) ending i have been waiting for, for like 2 years now?!

[Dimensio]

byzantine horse wrote...

Dimensio wrote...

byzantine horse wrote...

I don't get this. On one hand you have people raging about their choices having no consequence, on the other they rage about their choices having consequences in the way that they can not achieve the best ending. WTF is wrong with you people? You can't have the cake and eat it.

You have not demonstrated that an Effective Military Strength in excess of 4000 is attainable without use of multiplayer.

I read the OP carefully to such a degree that I understood that it isn't possible to achieve 4k EMS if you pick sub-optimal choices throughout the 3 games in the series. In short, your choices matter because you need all optimal choices to get the best ending (obviously) and most people don't pick the best choices (obviously) and are then angry when they (obviously) don't get the best ending. Now please tell me how their choices didn't matter?

The crux is that the choices didn't matter in the way they wanted them to and they are angry because they lost.

Then you should be able to demonstrate the series of "optimal" choices that result in an Effective Military Strength of 4000 or greater.  Please do so.

[byzantine horse]

iReplaya wrote...

my current EMS is around 2800, so Bioware is saying i need to rip all of the money out of my pocket to play my ALREADY BOUGHT game with a perfect (i think satisfying idk) ending i have been waiting for, for like 2 years now?!

You lost the game, Losing hurts. Start over, rince and repeat until you win. That is how games work.

[Dimensio]

iReplaya wrote...

my current EMS is around 2800, so Bioware is saying i need to rip all of the money out of my pocket to play my ALREADY BOUGHT game with a perfect (i think satisfying idk) ending i have been waiting for, for like 2 years now?!

BioWare claimed that the "best" ending is attainable entirely through single-player gaming.  Thus far, however, no one has accomplished such a feat.

[Tietj]

By "our choices don't matter" people mean that the endings don't reflect the choices we've made throughout the game. The extra scene being linked to a virtually impossible to achieve EMS score doesn't count because its really just a game mechanic and has nothing to do with any individual choice.

[byzantine horse]

Dimensio wrote...
Then you should be able to demonstrate the series of "optimal" choices that result in an Effective Military Strength of 4000 or greater.  Please do so.

I can not because I have yet to finish ME3. The only source I have for the "optimal ending" is, in fact, the OP in this thread, in which it is clearly stated that you can only achieve the best ending if you have picked the best choices. It is quite simple really. Did you spend the first 2 games pissing the entire galaxy off? Well poor you, none wants to help you now. I will certainly not achieve a good ending because I play a Renegade and even if it gets things done it does so in a way that pisses people off. Do I care that I will most likely lose the 100+ hour epic that is the Mass Effect series? Well sure, but I also know that if the OP is right then my choices mattered. They didn't matter in the way I would like, ie they didn't help me win, but they mattered.

If you wish to find the series of optimal choices to win the game then play through the games and consider everything you do very carefully. That is all I have to say to you.

Again: You can't have the cake and eat it, Mass Effect 3 is not a stand alone game.

[byzantine horse]

The PLC wrote...

byzantine horse wrote...

iReplaya wrote...

my current EMS is around 2800, so Bioware is saying i need to rip all of the money out of my pocket to play my ALREADY BOUGHT game with a perfect (i think satisfying idk) ending i have been waiting for, for like 2 years now?!

You lost the game, Losing hurts. Start over, rince and repeat until you win. That is how games work.

Bioware promised us that we would be able to achieve the best ending in SP alone. Everything we have so far proves that isn't possible. He didn't 'lose' the game. Achieving 8000 war assets is simply not possible. So cut the attitude. 

Mass Effect 3 is not stand alone. Do you know whether you picked the optimal choices in ME1 and ME2? I sure as hell don't whether I did or not. I will most likely lose, the Reapers will win and all is good in this world. You are welcome to come back to me once you have played the game all times necesary to get all different endings and then tell me if there is a good ending or not.

[Tietj]

You're not understanding. There's no way to achieve the score required, that anyone knows of, no matter what choices you make except the choice to play multiplayer.

[LadyBlueSweetie]

sweetie wrote...

Gravbh wrote...

Let me see if I'm getting this right. Just doing everything in ME3 isn't enough for a multiplayer-less best ending. You have to have made the right decisions in ME1 and 2. So people are complaining that their choices in previous games actually matter? I thought one of the complaints was that your choices didn't matter?

Which is it?

Well, neither. The complaint seems to be this: why should multiplayer make up for "bad" decisions in ME and ME2 when single player does not also allow a way to make up for those same "bad" decisions?

That's how I understand the problem, at least.

I think my point here is worth repeating: Why should multiplayer make up for "bad" decisions in ME and ME2 when
single player does not also allow a way to make up for those same "bad"
decisions?

[byzantine horse]

Tietj wrote...

You're not understanding. There's no way to achieve the score required, that anyone knows of, no matter what choices you make except the choice to play multiplayer.

Again I redirect you to the OP, my only source on the matter:

"Its practically impossible to get the best ending through single-player alone UNLESS:

- You followed a very strict path through the trilogy, making the exact perfect choice for every decision. So forget about making the decisions you wanted to make, you'll have to follow a bullet point list of decisions.

- Alternatively, you beat the game on New Game +, where crap like fishes give War Assets."

As you can see here, it is possibly to get the best ending if you follow a "very strict path through the trilogy". That is the only source I have on the matter which hopefully means that it is possible.

Again, people expect the cake in their hands and their bellies at once. You make the choices you want to make but you will suffer the consequences for doing so.

Edit: Quite frankly I am surprised Bioware allowed to fix your score in multiplayer at all. I don't agree with it either, but I don't agree with fixing your score in SP either. You lose or you win on your own doing.

Modifié par byzantine horse, 13 mars 2012 - 06:25 .

[Dimensio]

byzantine horse wrote...

Dimensio wrote...
Then you should be able to demonstrate the series of "optimal" choices that result in an Effective Military Strength of 4000 or greater.  Please do so.

I can not because I have yet to finish ME3. The only source I have for the "optimal ending" is, in fact, the OP in this thread, in which it is clearly stated that you can only achieve the best ending if you have picked the best choices. It is quite simple really. Did you spend the first 2 games pissing the entire galaxy off? Well poor you, none wants to help you now. I will certainly not achieve a good ending because I play a Renegade and even if it gets things done it does so in a way that pisses people off. Do I care that I will most likely lose the 100+ hour epic that is the Mass Effect series? Well sure, but I also know that if the OP is right then my choices mattered. They didn't matter in the way I would like, ie they didn't help me win, but they mattered.

If you wish to find the series of optimal choices to win the game then play through the games and consider everything you do very carefully. That is all I have to say to you.

Again: You can't have the cake and eat it, Mass Effect 3 is not a stand alone game.

Extensive research has, thus far, failed to uncover any means of attaining a Total Military Strength in excess of 8000 in the single-player campaign regardless of choices made in the previous games in the series.  If you are unable to disprove this research then your counter-claims are of no merit and may be disregarded as being as rational and as factual as creationist arguments.