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[ebevan91]

Is there a way I can edit my EMS on the PC version? What file do I need to play with?

I've beaten the game already, but I really don't want to play MP just to get the best ending possible.

I don't have a problem with MP being in the game. I have a problem with Bioware telling a blatant lie saying you can get the best ending without needing to play MP.

Modifié par ebevan91, 13 mars 2012 - 06:26 .

[Tietj]

People have added up every possible point including the ones influenced from the other games and there does not seem to be a way to achieve the optimal ending. Don't contribute to a thread if you have nothing useful to say.

[Dimensio]

ebevan91 wrote...

Is there a way I can edit my EMS on the PC version? What file do I need to play with?

The safest and most reliable method of adjusting your Effective Military Score is through alteration of existing save files using Gibbed's editor, which will allow you to change the strength of an assigned asset.

Modification of the coalesced.bin file will allow alteration of not yet attained military assets, but modification of this file carries a risk of an Origin account ban.

[byzantine horse]

Dimensio wrote...
Extensive research has, thus far, failed to uncover any means of attaining a Total Military Strength in excess of 8000 in the single-player campaign regardless of choices made in the previous games in the series.  If you are unable to disprove this research then your counter-claims are of no merit and may be disregarded as being as rational and as factual as creationist arguments.

Oh please, creationist arguments? Get a grip, we aren't discussiong the Big Bang here.

As I have said what, 5 times? my only source on the matter is the OP. If you have any issues with my source please take the issue to him as I only use the information that is supplied.

"Its practically impossible to get the best ending through single-player alone UNLESS:

- You followed a very strict path through the trilogy, making the exact perfect choice for every decision. So forget about making the decisions you wanted to make, you'll have to follow a bullet point list of decisions.

- Alternatively, you beat the game on New Game +, where crap like fishes give War Assets."

Practically impossible implies that it is possible even if very hard.

Following a very strict path through 100+ hours of gameplay is what I consider very hard. I see no disconnect what-so-ever between the source and my argument, so take your ****ing about creationist arguments elsewhere.

[LadyBlueSweetie]

byzantine horse wrote...

Edit: Quite frankly I am surprised Bioware allowed to fix your score in multiplayer at all. I don't agree with it either, but I don't agree with fixing your score in SP either. You lose or you win on your own doing.

Fair. It should work that way. But it doesn't and that's part of the complaint.

There IS an extra ending that can only be achieved by multiplayer or ipad/iphone games when Bioware stated otherwise. And yes, at this point in the analysis, it seems safe to claim that EMS of 4000 or greater can ONLY be achieved by multiplayer or ipad/iphone.

[Tietj]

Save file modification is not an acceptable solution to this problem.

[ebevan91]

Dimensio wrote...

ebevan91 wrote...

Is there a way I can edit my EMS on the PC version? What file do I need to play with?

The safest and most reliable method of adjusting your Effective Military Score is through alteration of existing save files using Gibbed's editor, which will allow you to change the strength of an assigned asset.

Modification of the coalesced.bin file will allow alteration of not yet attained military assets, but modification of this file carries a risk of an Origin account ban.

Gibbed is available for ME3?

[Dimensio]

ebevan91 wrote...

Dimensio wrote...

ebevan91 wrote...

Is there a way I can edit my EMS on the PC version? What file do I need to play with?

The safest and most reliable method of adjusting your Effective Military Score is through alteration of existing save files using Gibbed's editor, which will allow you to change the strength of an assigned asset.

Modification of the coalesced.bin file will allow alteration of not yet attained military assets, but modification of this file carries a risk of an Origin account ban.

Gibbed is available for ME3?

Yes.

[byzantine horse]

sweetie wrote...

byzantine horse wrote...

Edit: Quite frankly I am surprised Bioware allowed to fix your score in multiplayer at all. I don't agree with it either, but I don't agree with fixing your score in SP either. You lose or you win on your own doing.

Fair. It should work that way. But it doesn't and that's part of the complaint.

There IS an extra ending that can only be achieved by multiplayer or ipad/iphone games when Bioware stated otherwise. And yes, at this point in the analysis, it seems safe to claim that EMS of 4000 or greater can ONLY be achieved by multiplayer or ipad/iphone.

If that is the case I stand corrected and Bioware is a bunch of pricks. But still, my main point of the argument was that

1. People complain about their choices having no impact, yet it clearly does as they lose if their choices are bad, and
2. Poeple complain about not being able to win because they picked the wrong choices and want to fix their scores.

That is what I went "WTF is wrong with you people?" about, the blatant contradiction between those two points of, well, whine.

[LadyBlueSweetie]

byzantine horse wrote...

Edit: Quite frankly I am surprised Bioware allowed to fix your score in multiplayer at all. I don't agree with it either, but I don't agree with fixing your score in SP either. You lose or you win on your own doing.

Fair. It should work that way, but it doesn't. And that's part of the complaint here.

There IS an ending scene you can only achieve by playing multiplayer or ipad/iphone games. And at this point, it's pretty safe to say that there's no way the game currently allows a strictly single player experience to yield an EMS of 4000 or greater.

Unless, of course, we've got widespread bugs affecting our play. If that's true, then I hope they're fixed.

EDIT: Sorry - looked like my original post got eaten...

Modifié par sweetie, 13 mars 2012 - 06:32 .

[Tietj]

If your only source is the original post, let me inform you that you're misinformed, and so was the op. Understandable, but your arguments are therefore invalid.

[Dimensio]

byzantine horse wrote...

Dimensio wrote...
Extensive research has, thus far, failed to uncover any means of attaining a Total Military Strength in excess of 8000 in the single-player campaign regardless of choices made in the previous games in the series.  If you are unable to disprove this research then your counter-claims are of no merit and may be disregarded as being as rational and as factual as creationist arguments.

Oh please, creationist arguments? Get a grip, we aren't discussiong the Big Bang here.

As I have said what, 5 times? my only source on the matter is the OP. If you have any issues with my source please take the issue to him as I only use the information that is supplied.

"Its practically impossible to get the best ending through single-player alone UNLESS:

- You followed a very strict path through the trilogy, making the exact perfect choice for every decision. So forget about making the decisions you wanted to make, you'll have to follow a bullet point list of decisions.

- Alternatively, you beat the game on New Game +, where crap like fishes give War Assets."

Practically impossible implies that it is possible even if very hard.

Following a very strict path through 100+ hours of gameplay is what I consider very hard. I see no disconnect what-so-ever between the source and my argument, so take your ****ing about creationist arguments elsewhere.

Had you read the entire discussion, rather than the initial post, you would be aware that, thus far, no one has demonstrably successfully attained a Total Military Strength in excess of 8000 through any method apart from save editing or configuration file hacking.

[LadyBlueSweetie]

byzantine horse wrote...

sweetie wrote...

byzantine horse wrote...

Edit: Quite frankly I am surprised Bioware allowed to fix your score in multiplayer at all. I don't agree with it either, but I don't agree with fixing your score in SP either. You lose or you win on your own doing.

Fair. It should work that way. But it doesn't and that's part of the complaint.

There IS an extra ending that can only be achieved by multiplayer or ipad/iphone games when Bioware stated otherwise. And yes, at this point in the analysis, it seems safe to claim that EMS of 4000 or greater can ONLY be achieved by multiplayer or ipad/iphone.

If that is the case I stand corrected and Bioware is a bunch of pricks. But still, my main point of the argument was that

1. People complain about their choices having no impact, yet it clearly does as they lose if their choices are bad, and
2. Poeple complain about not being able to win because they picked the wrong choices and want to fix their scores.

That is what I went "WTF is wrong with you people?" about, the blatant contradiction between those two points of, well, whine.

And I'm saying it's not all whining here. There are some valid complaints over a breach of trust. At least as I see it.

EDIT: Of course, if it turns out there is some single player path to higher EMS that is simply bugged, then I'm happy to concede being wrong. Really happy, actually.

Modifié par sweetie, 13 mars 2012 - 06:48 .

[grimkillah]

byzantine horse wrote...

Edit: Quite frankly I am surprised Bioware allowed to fix your score in multiplayer at all. I don't agree with it either, but I don't agree with fixing your score in SP either. You lose or you win on your own doing.

You know I agree with that, only the right combination of choices from the trilogy could give you the best ending. One mistake, and you get a crap ending, that I agree. But right now I don't know if BioWare actually done this, or not. We have no idea because we can no longer take BW's words on face value, and this might take few month or years before someone discover the right combo to get 4000+ points. The time in between will fill with uncertainty and doubt, and that makes some people angry.

[byzantine horse]

Dimensio wrote...
Had you read the entire discussion, rather than the initial post, you would be aware that, thus far, no one has demonstrably successfully attained a Total Military Strength in excess of 8000 through any method apart from save editing or configuration file hacking.

It's 30 pages, what do you expect? And read my bost above yours where I conceded.

Edit: A proposal for Bioware then: As it seems like there is only one single way of achieving the good ending, ie playing perfectly, the game seems way too hard, seriously. Being able to lose in a 100+ hour epic is one thing, losing 999/1000 times is another completely. If it is hard to attain a good ending that's fine, but it shouldn't be nigh impossible. Difficulty is one thing, screwing you over completely another.

Modifié par byzantine horse, 13 mars 2012 - 06:54 .

[hudakj]

As I said earlier, it is possible that some of the asset values are "bugged" in the sense that wome were coded with lower values than originally intended. Happens in a lot of games, especially where balance is an issue. It could very well be patched in time, as it is a very simple fix.

[byzantine horse]

hudakj wrote...

As I said earlier, it is possible that some of the asset values are "bugged" in the sense that wome were coded with lower values than originally intended. Happens in a lot of games, especially where balance is an issue. It could very well be patched in time, as it is a very simple fix.

Well if that's the case it is probably the one bug to cause the most anger and uproar ever.

[grimkillah]

hudakj wrote...

As I said earlier, it is possible that some of the asset values are "bugged" in the sense that wome were coded with lower values than originally intended. Happens in a lot of games, especially where balance is an issue. It could very well be patched in time, as it is a very simple fix.

Or that rest of EMS points are from future DLCs. It is one way to generate DLC sales for a game that is the end of a trilogy.

Modifié par grimkillah, 13 mars 2012 - 07:06 .

[CmonCmon]

Regardless of "bad" choices someone that picks up ME 3 today and plays multiplayer will have no trouble getting it while someone that's completed every sidequest across 3 games won't get it.

https://docs.google....VkTGIyenc#gid=0

Your list there is actually wrong in another way besides the redundant bits. You included the 75 for the N7 Sepcial Ops team. That's for promoting a character in multiplayer.

[Torguemada]

byzantine horse wrote...
It's 30 pages, what do you expect?

That you read it like any other normal person does, before bouting of you opinions about other people.
Not doing so is the worst form of bad manners possible in a forum.

Simple fact is, thats it has been proven with 10000% qurantee that no matter what choices you make in any of the 3 games, only think that matters to getting the 4000+ EMS ending is whether or not you play MP.

Modifié par Torguemada, 13 mars 2012 - 07:25 .

[KBomb]

byzantine horse wrote...

Oh please, creationist arguments? Get a grip, we aren't discussiong the Big Bang here.

As I have said what, 5 times? my only source on the matter is the OP. If you have any issues with my source please take the issue to him as I only use the information that is supplied.

"Its practically impossible to get the best ending through single-player alone UNLESS:

- You followed a very strict path through the trilogy, making the exact perfect choice for every decision. So forget about making the decisions you wanted to make, you'll have to follow a bullet point list of decisions.

- Alternatively, you beat the game on New Game +, where crap like fishes give War Assets."

Practically impossible implies that it is possible even if very hard.

Following a very strict path through 100+ hours of gameplay is what I consider very hard. I see no disconnect what-so-ever between the source and my argument, so take your ****ing about creationist arguments elsewhere.

 
Following an exact path through all three games is fine. Unless you play it on PS3, then it's impossible.


As far as those choices are, no one seems to know what they are. Even with the spreadsheet of points that shows allocation, it still does not leave enough points to reach the optimal level. I don't mind working hard for Deep Breath, but there is a clear line drawn between difficult to obtain and damned impossible to obtain.


Also, NG+, even with the War Assets allowed by that fish will not give you enough points. It isn't an alternative. The fish alone doesn't carry enough points and NG+ does not give you extra, as EMS does not carry over into a new game.


And for the ones who keep insisting MP is no big deal: MP is simply not a solution for some. Some do not have internet access, some do not have XBL and some do not have time. I fall into the latter. I don't mind playing MP once in a while because I want to, but between work and social life—when I schedule time to play a game, I want it to be SP, you know--what I play ME for. Since MP GR decreases over time, if you have more than one character, you'd have to play it regularly or the effort would be moot.

[Tietj]

Bump. This topic is important and should be addressed.

[Nachtritter76]

KBomb wrote...

byzantine horse wrote...

Oh please, creationist arguments? Get a grip, we aren't discussiong the Big Bang here.

As I have said what, 5 times? my only source on the matter is the OP. If you have any issues with my source please take the issue to him as I only use the information that is supplied.

"Its practically impossible to get the best ending through single-player alone UNLESS:

- You followed a very strict path through the trilogy, making the exact perfect choice for every decision. So forget about making the decisions you wanted to make, you'll have to follow a bullet point list of decisions.

- Alternatively, you beat the game on New Game +, where crap like fishes give War Assets."

Practically impossible implies that it is possible even if very hard.

Following a very strict path through 100+ hours of gameplay is what I consider very hard. I see no disconnect what-so-ever between the source and my argument, so take your ****ing about creationist arguments elsewhere.

 
Following an exact path through all three games is fine. Unless you play it on PS3, then it's impossible.


As far as those choices are, no one seems to know what they are. Even with the spreadsheet of points that shows allocation, it still does not leave enough points to reach the optimal level. I don't mind working hard for Deep Breath, but there is a clear line drawn between difficult to obtain and damned impossible to obtain.


Also, NG+, even with the War Assets allowed by that fish will not give you enough points. It isn't an alternative. The fish alone doesn't carry enough points and NG+ does not give you extra, as EMS does not carry over into a new game.


And for the ones who keep insisting MP is no big deal: MP is simply not a solution for some. Some do not have internet access, some do not have XBL and some do not have time. I fall into the latter. I don't mind playing MP once in a while because I want to, but between work and social life—when I schedule time to play a game, I want it to be SP, you know--what I play ME for. Since MP GR decreases over time, if you have more than one character, you'd have to play it regularly or the effort would be moot.

Concerning the PS3, you are right. If all the choices made in ME1 were to count (and not just the choices offered in the ME2 interactive comic), PS3 users would be effed over.

The thing is, there ARE already points given for things that are impossible for PS3 to have access to. Major Kirrahe (20 pts) is among the assets. Yet, for PS3 users, he is not an option, because for the default choices outside of "ME2: Genesis", Kirrahe is dead.

Just saying.

[KBomb]

Nachtritter76 wrote...


Concerning the PS3, you are right. If all the choices made in ME1 were to count (and not just the choices offered in the ME2 interactive comic), PS3 users would be effed over.

The thing is, there ARE already points given for things that are impossible for PS3 to have access to. Major Kirrahe (20 pts) is among the assets. Yet, for PS3 users, he is not an option, because for the default choices outside of "ME2: Genesis", Kirrahe is dead.

Just saying.

  Yep. I don't play ME on PS3, but I would assume they would miss out on quite a few. Conrad Verner, Feros (I believe it's default the colony was destroyed, IIRC) as well as a few others lurking about on that list. I could be wrong. I do know the Genesis DLC we got for XB was the same one they got with ME2 for the PS3 and it skipped over Feros completely.