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[MassStorm]

dreman9999 wrote...

MassStorm wrote...

submarinex1 wrote...

http://social.biowar...3/index/9665384


enough said.

This is obviously a lie. Then we should expect an exact clarification on HOW to get the "best" ending without MP

How is it not clear. Make the right Choices in ME1 and 2, and get war assits.

It's not clear because as far as we know none has been able to get the "best" ending (4000+ EMS) with a galactic readiness of 50% (which means no MP at all). If BW insist on these claims then provide info, screenshots and details if this is possible....i'm asking proofs before starting my trilogy again.

[AlanC9]

dreman9999 wrote...

How is it not clear. Make the right Choices in ME1 and 2, and get war assits.

Which are the "right" choices from those games? I suppose the wiki's got them up, but I don't want to go near that page until I've finished the game myself.

[Tietj]

AlanC9 wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...


you coudln't have seen the "best" ending with these assets.  the extra cutscene for the best ending, requires 4000 (or 5000 if you didn't fulfill a certain "spoiler" requirement)

So this fuss is all about an extra cutscene?

If you think it isn't worth the fuss, then why post in this topic?  And yeah, the extra cutscene is rather important to some of us.

[AlanC9]

Tietj wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...


you coudln't have seen the "best" ending with these assets.  the extra cutscene for the best ending, requires 4000 (or 5000 if you didn't fulfill a certain "spoiler" requirement)

So this fuss is all about an extra cutscene?

If you think it isn't worth the fuss, then why post in this topic?

That's why I was asking the question, you know. To see if I really was understanding this.

And yeah, the extra cutscene is rather important to some of us.

How come? Do you already know what's in it?

[The Spamming Troll]

bioware needs that drew karpizcinski guy back more then anything.

bioware is dumb, im convinced. im not sure why ive i should be comming onto this forum to see what they are up to. becasue its obviously nothing im interested in anymore.

Modifié par The Spamming Troll, 11 mars 2012 - 04:42 .

[MassStorm]

AlanC9 wrote...

Tietj wrote...


If you think it isn't worth the fuss, then why post in this topic?

That's why I was asking the question, you know. To see if I really was understanding this.

And yeah, the extra cutscene is rather important to some of us.

How come? Do you already know what's in it?

Obviously you have not finished the game yet. Return later on

Modifié par MassStorm, 11 mars 2012 - 04:42 .

[dreman9999]

MassStorm wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

MassStorm wrote...

submarinex1 wrote...

http://social.biowar...3/index/9665384


enough said.

This is obviously a lie. Then we should expect an exact clarification on HOW to get the "best" ending without MP

How is it not clear. Make the right Choices in ME1 and 2, and get war assits.

It's not clear because as far as we know none has been able to get the "best" ending (4000+ EMS) with a galactic readiness of 50% (which means no MP at all). If BW insist on these claims then provide info, screenshots and details if this is possible....i'm asking proofs before starting my trilogy again.

Proof...Please. Look at a walk thru. I hate complaining about notgetting the best ending which is based on your past choices and the choices made now. Did you for get what your fighting in the game? The reason why getting any ending is like this is because we are facing an enemy like the reapers. It not going to be easy beating them. Choices have a heavy consideration. So when they said choices matter ...They meant it.

[Indylavi]

AlanC9 wrote...

So this fuss is all about an extra cutscene?

No, for me the fuss is that I was told by Bioware that I would NOT be punished for not playing Multiplayer. Now I learn that is not the case. I have done everything I can in the game. All side missions, all quests, all planets scanned, & all war assets collected. I have imported perfect saves from M1>M2. I completed everything in those games including DLC. I made the right decisions.

Yet, I am still not able to get enough EMS. The only way for me to get enough EMS is to buy Xbox gold then play MP. Ok, technically I guess I could play a New Game + but after learning this. I'm not sure I even want to play through another time.

[jeweledleah]

dreman9999 wrote...

Proof...Please. Look at a walk thru. I hate complaining about notgetting the best ending which is based on your past choices and the choices made now. Did you for get what your fighting in the game? The reason why getting any ending is like this is because we are facing an enemy like the reapers. It not going to be easy beating them. Choices have a heavy consideration. So when they said choices matter ...They meant it.

except they really don't.  it doesn't matter what you chose, how you resolve conflicts etc.  even if you import a fail shepard who killed everyone they could and only did the bare minimum of work in ME3, they can still get all three color choices... provided they play a lot of multiplayer that is.  none of the choices are directly impacted by any specific choices you made.

that little cutscene we're talking about?  its the dim ray of sunshine and not being able to get it through single player alone unless you metagame and follow a very rigid story path, is adding injury to insult

[The Big Nothing]

The fact remains: Multi-player should not affect the single-player experience. It's bad enough to waste resources on adding multi-player to what has thus far been solely an interactive, emotional single-player experience, but having that crap addition affect the single-player experience is insane.

[Tietj]

AlanC9 wrote...

Tietj wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...


you coudln't have seen the "best" ending with these assets.  the extra cutscene for the best ending, requires 4000 (or 5000 if you didn't fulfill a certain "spoiler" requirement)

So this fuss is all about an extra cutscene?

If you think it isn't worth the fuss, then why post in this topic?

That's why I was asking the question, you know. To see if I really was understanding this.

And yeah, the extra cutscene is rather important to some of us.

How come? Do you already know what's in it?

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to sound like I was snapping.  And yes, I do know what's in it, and without it I enjoy the game less.  I just think we shouldn't be punished for not playing multiplayer in a single player game. 

[KBomb]

To the OP: If you want to see that ending and can't play MP, just do a NG+ and your GMS will carry over into that game and new points will be added, IIRC. The Deep Breath scene is the “Special Ending” the guide talks about for NG+.

I agree this system is busted. I have yet to see anyone who has made 4k in GMS without NG+ or MP. I have seen some claim it, but when asked to show proof, they mysteriously disappear.

Anyway, my suggestion to you is to play it again. I was going to, but honestly a ten second cutscene isn't worth playing it all over.

[Fran1878]

I like the multiplayer, but I don't think it should affect the singleplayer, I mean, what were they thinking! Does Skyrim have a multiplayer? Does the Witcher 2 have a multiplayer? No. This is because these are RPG's for goodness sake, and I can't help but think the development team here have shot themselves in the foot...Several times!!!

[Sonashi]

KBomb wrote...

To the OP: If you want to see that ending and can't play MP, just do a NG+ and your GMS will carry over into that game and new points will be added, IIRC. The Deep Breath scene is the “Special Ending” the guide talks about for NG+.

Are you 100% sure coz if not I don't want to play this game anymore. They've ruined the best game for me becouse of this last 10 minutes

Modifié par Sonashi, 11 mars 2012 - 05:38 .

[Tietj]

KBomb wrote...

To the OP: If you want to see that ending and can't play MP, just do a NG+ and your GMS will carry over into that game and new points will be added, IIRC. The Deep Breath scene is the “Special Ending” the guide talks about for NG+.

I agree this system is busted. I have yet to see anyone who has made 4k in GMS without NG+ or MP. I have seen some claim it, but when asked to show proof, they mysteriously disappear.

Anyway, my suggestion to you is to play it again. I was going to, but honestly a ten second cutscene isn't worth playing it all over.

I'm currently halfway through a NG+ and I don't have any extra assets, and I do have fish and model ships.  Is there some point where they appear or are they supposed to be there from the beginning?

[Veneke]

Lemme get this straight; we have to play multiplayer or replay the entire game to get the full ending? That's still ridiculous, but at least it's possible I suppose. You're quite certain that's the case though?

[Loup Blanc]

Veneke wrote...

Lemme get this straight; we have to play multiplayer or replay the entire game to get the full ending? That's still ridiculous, but at least it's possible I suppose. You're quite certain that's the case though?

NG+ won't change a thing. The EMS don't carry over.

[Valo_Soren]

You can get all the war assets you need in the single player game without playing multiplayer, the highest threshold you need to get the best possible endings is 5000, even with galactic readiness at 50 percent. It is not impossible to do it by single player alone.

[Valo_Soren]

From Jarret Lee of Bioware:

Hi everyone,

I've seen some posts where there is a bit of confusion about the ability to get the best endings by only playing single-player, because if you don't play multiplayer (or the iOS game, Infiltrator) your Galactic Readiness stays at 50%.

You do NOT have to play multiplayer to get the best single-player endings.

Here's a bit of clarification:

Your ending(s) are determined by your "Effective Military Strength" (let's call it EMS for now) bar. Focus on that bar - that is your indicator of how well you will do in the end-game.

You can maximize your EMS just by collecting War Assets in the single-player game. There is a certain threshhold of these you would need to exceed (I can't get too specific) but I can tell you there are MORE than the required amount that can be gathered in the single-player campaign.

"Galactic Readiness" is a modifier you can improve by playing multiplayer. That is to say, if you play a lot of multiplayer, you will need less War Assets from single-player to fill up your EMS bar (ie it will balance out the requirements to account for you playing in both modes). Single-player game play does not impact that bar.

EMS = success. EMS can be maximized via collecting war assets alone, even if your Galactic Readiness is 50%.

UPDATE: changing post title, "perfect" ending may create confusion. This post indicates how military strength, war assets and galactic readiness affect the endings.

End quote.

[thisisme8]

I ended my first playthrough of the game with over 8000 points, which translates to roughly 4000 EMS. So, I don't see what the fuss is about.

[Loup Blanc]

Valo_Soren wrote...

You can get all the war assets you need in the single player game without playing multiplayer, the highest threshold you need to get the best possible endings is 5000, even with galactic readiness at 50 percent. It is not impossible to do it by single player alone.

Have you done it? Because right now there is a ton of folks who claim they've done everything in the game and they didn't even reach 4000.

[thisisme8]

Valo_Soren wrote...

You can get all the war assets you need in the single player game without playing multiplayer, the highest threshold you need to get the best possible endings is 5000, even with galactic readiness at 50 percent. It is not impossible to do it by single player alone.

I understood 4000 to be the threshhold, but I may be mistaken.

[KBomb]

Sonashi wrote...


Are you 100% sure coz if not I don't wont to play this game anymore. They've ruined the best game for me becouse of this last 10 minutes

 
From what I understand it keeps accumulating until you reach the maximum level of points which is 5,000 for EMS, which is what is important to get the Deep Breath scene. Remember how in ME1 if you choose NG+ and your paragon/renegade carried over, it would still add the points to your scale if one was incomplete.


Now, I haven't done NG+ and therefore the only proof I have are what a few people have told me. It worked for them. Of course, I cannot ask you to trust their word, as you do not know them. My suggestion would be to start a NG+ and play a few missions and see if the EMS raises any.

Edit:  
Well, reading a few posts here it seems you cannot carry your EMS over. That's unfortunate, truly.

Modifié par KBomb, 11 mars 2012 - 05:38 .

[Sonashi]

thisisme8 wrote...

I ended my first playthrough of the game with over 8000 points, which translates to roughly 4000 EMS. So, I don't see what the fuss is about.

Please tell:
-was it NG+?
-was it your playthrough with imported save from ME2?
-what choices did you make?

[KBomb]

thisisme8 wrote...

I ended my first playthrough of the game with over 8000 points, which translates to roughly 4000 EMS. So, I don't see what the fuss is about.

 
Sorry to be intrusive, but can you prove it? I only ask because some have claimed it, but never have shown evidence of it. If you can prove it, can you tell us some of the decisions you have made that lead to such a score?


As to what Jarrett Lee stated: I would love to know how there is plenty to go around. I know I did a complete play through, every mission, every planet, united species..the whole bit and still didn't have enough. I was about 400 points short and I am not alone. Perhaps it's a bug, if so they need to address it instead of just saying, “You can do it!”. It's obviously a problem.