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[Dimensio]

OdanUrr wrote...

Babe Mause wrote...

I just wanted to say that my friend with exact the same choices as me has double the amount of assets. And she indeed messed with coalesced file, but not to add assets and just for cosmetic reasons.

So there must be some bug in the game!

Are your copies of ME3 different in any regard? DDE, CE, standard digital/physical, different retailers? 

I am speculating USENET or Torrent...

Modifié par Dimensio, 14 mars 2012 - 01:33 .

[tomcplotts]

As far as I know, there's only 3 endings. And you can get the third at 3500 ems SP (at least that's where I got it, and I did a plain vanilla first play without a save and got quite a bit less). I hit 3600-ish and unless there's a magic elixir for the salarians, that's about as much as I could squeeze out.

Are you guys saying there's yet another ending or is this a reference to the now infamous 7 second end game clip. I don't view that as an end, I guess, just a marketing device.

I absolutely agree though that even the hint of forcing an SP gamer into paying for multiplayer is a new low, even for EA (and you can bet that's who is doing this..--did you ever think that EA taking Bioware wouldn't be the end of Bioware?). I suppose it could have been worse. At least EA didn't sell ad space inside ME3 for product placement like it does in all of their other crappy games.

[Dimensio]

tomcplotts wrote...

As far as I know, there's only 3 endings. And you can get the third at 3500 ems SP (at least that's where I got it, and I did a plain vanilla first play without a save and got quite a bit less). I hit 3600-ish and unless there's a magic elixir for the salarians, that's about as much as I could squeeze out.

Are you guys saying there's yet another ending or is this a reference to the now infamous 7 second end game clip. I don't view that as an end, I guess, just a marketing device.

I absolutely agree though that even the hint of forcing an SP gamer into paying for multiplayer is a new low, even for EA (and you can bet that's who is doing this..--did you ever think that EA taking Bioware wouldn't be the end of Bioware?). I suppose it could have been worse. At least EA didn't sell ad space inside ME3 for product placement like it does in all of their other crappy games.

If, by intentional design, an Effective Military Score of 4000 cannot be obtained with a Galactic Readiness of 50%, then BioWare lied.

[Inxentas]

I never played MP and I got above 5000 easily. ME1 & ME2 also factor heavily into this. Destroying or keeping the Collector Base for example. So with decent imports (and a certain route through dialogue) you can get the 'special' ending without ever touching MP. The special scene is a treat for long term players and I'm fine with that. I reckoned the NG+ War Assets were intended for newcomers to the series.

Also people need to check their Specre consoles, a lot of assets can be gained by authorizing it as a Spectre. Took me a while to realize this, maybe people missed out on these oppurtunities? I was practicly buried beneath EMS at the end of the game. To bad I picked the Control option out of WTFCONFUSION, so I never saw it anyway.

[Dimensio]

Inxentas wrote...

I never played MP and I got above 5000 easily. ME1 & ME2 also factor heavily into this. Destroying or keeping the Collector Base for example. So with decent imports (and a certain route through dialogue) you can get the 'special' ending without ever touching MP. The special scene is a treat for long term players and I'm fine with that. I reckoned the NG+ War Assets were intended for newcomers to the series.

Also people need to check their Specre consoles, a lot of assets can be gained by authorizing it as a Spectre. Took me a while to realize this, maybe people missed out on these oppurtunities? I was practicly buried beneath EMS at the end of the game. To bad I picked the Control option out of WTFCONFUSION, so I never saw it anyway.

Please provide visual documentation of your accomplishment.  Thus far, examination of the game data files suggests that attaining a Total Military Strength of 10,000, which you have claimed to have done, is impossible without modification either of game system files or of game save files.

[OdanUrr]

Inxentas wrote...

I never played MP and I got above 5000 easily. ME1 & ME2 also factor heavily into this. Destroying or keeping the Collector Base for example. So with decent imports (and a certain route through dialogue) you can get the 'special' ending without ever touching MP. The special scene is a treat for long term players and I'm fine with that. I reckoned the NG+ War Assets were intended for newcomers to the series.

Also people need to check their Specre consoles, a lot of assets can be gained by authorizing it as a Spectre. Took me a while to realize this, maybe people missed out on these oppurtunities? I was practicly buried beneath EMS at the end of the game. To bad I picked the Control option out of WTFCONFUSION, so I never saw it anyway.

For the love of...

We're discussing that you can't get 4,000+ Effective Military Strength. You can get 5,000+ Total War Assets. The difference being that Effective Military Strength = Galactic Readiness (%) * Total War Assets /100. Since GR=50% in SP, your EMS is, basically, WA/2.

[Tietj]

Another deluded poster thinking they must just be THAT MUCH BETTER at the game than everyone else.

[Stakis]

did everything i could and only got 3500 EMS, did the same in ME1 and 2, tough im sure i missed stuff.

If doable in single player means having a determined path of choices troughout the series plus not missing every sidequest then bioware realy screwed people who dont like MP since its not possible to get the required 4k EMS in ME3 only.

Modifié par Stakis, 14 mars 2012 - 02:24 .

[Majandraja]

Well, I used a ME2 imported Shep which I created with the virtual comic DLC, so some important choices like the Rachni Queen, Wrex and saving the Council from ME1 are actually there. Still can't get to 4000 EMS ^^ (had 3475 before the cerberus base) in ME3, with all and freaking every accessible systems on 100%, all of the quests in the spectre office I could get approved of and side missions done till I couldn't find any more of those.

So I'm not too dumb to play the game or too lazy to work for the ending.

Modifié par Majandraja, 14 mars 2012 - 02:27 .

[Raniall]

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Modifié par Raniall, 14 mars 2012 - 02:30 .

[OdanUrr]

Majandraja wrote...

Well, I used a ME2 imported Shep which I created with the virtual comic DLC, so some important choices like the Rachni Queen, Wrex and saving the Council from ME1 are actually there. Still can't get to 4000 EMS ^^ (had 3475 before the cerberus base) in ME3, with all and freaking every accessible systems on 100%, all of the quests in the spectre office I could get approved of and side missions done till I couldn't find any more of those.

So I'm not too dumb to play the game or too lazy to work for the ending.

Don't be too hasty approving requests as a Spectre. Some of them may have bad consequences.

[Majandraja]

OdanUrr wrote...

Majandraja wrote...

Well, I used a ME2 imported Shep which I created with the virtual comic DLC, so some important choices like the Rachni Queen, Wrex and saving the Council from ME1 are actually there. Still can't get to 4000 EMS ^^ (had 3475 before the cerberus base) in ME3, with all and freaking every accessible systems on 100%, all of the quests in the spectre office I could get approved of and side missions done till I couldn't find any more of those.

So I'm not too dumb to play the game or too lazy to work for the ending.

Don't be too hasty approving requests as a Spectre. Some of them may have bad consequences.

Yes, I meant one poster was like "you obviously forget to do that or do that", so I wanted to point out that I did find the possibility to "boost" my EMS through the spectre terminal.

[Portia Cousland]

This is so infuriating... I have zero desire to play MP and have been killing myself trying to get to the 4k WA b/c I fell short on my first game. I've even resorted to replaying it to find WA I may have missed through my first run and still I can only get approx 3600.

It's complete cr*p that there are "more war assets than are needed."

I'm at the point where I'm ready for Point of no Return and just going to sit there until a solution to this monumental BS is addressed in some form.

That's it BioWare, your credibility is zilch.

[Dimensio]

Portia Cousland wrote...

This is so infuriating... I have zero desire to play MP and have been killing myself trying to get to the 4k WA b/c I fell short on my first game. I've even resorted to replaying it to find WA I may have missed through my first run and still I can only get approx 3600.

It's complete cr*p that there are "more war assets than are needed."

I'm at the point where I'm ready for Point of no Return and just going to sit there until a solution to this monumental BS is addressed in some form.

That's it BioWare, your credibility is zilch.

An unofficial solution, in the form of save file editing, is already available.

[DavidGraham]

I did a full PARAGON walk through for ME1 and ME2 , did everything , all side missions , DLCs (for both ME1 and 2) , collectables , upgrades , minerals , money , Prothean discs and Asari writings , Salarian/Turian medals , saved the council , destroyed the collector base , saved all crew members , saved the hostages in Bring down the sky DLC .. etc , in short I did all the paragon decisions . maxed out my levels (60 ME1 /30 ME2 ) and experience in both games , played all DLCs (even pinnacle station).

Now I imported that into ME3 , once again I did all the missions , collected all war assets , sided with paragon every time , I had very high paragon and reputation points that allowed me to choose the best option in every situation and save everyone , I had the Geth and the Quarians , the Krogan and the Turians , also the Salarians and the Asari , the Batarian fleet , and the Terminus (Aria fleet) , also the Elchor and the Volus , all of that with paragon options and paragon persuasions .

Still after all of this I had only about 3700 EMS , I didn't touch multiplayer .

This makes me think that you truly can NOT exceed 4000 using single player only gameplay .. you need multiplayer to achieve that .


Alien 975
Alliance 1630
Crucible 755
Ex-Cerevrus 250
Krogan 870
Geth 815
Salaraian 153
Turian 633
Quarian 625

[tomcplotts]

DavidGraham wrote...

I did a full PARAGON walk through for ME1 and ME2 , did everything , all side missions , DLCs (for both ME1 and 2) , collectables , upgrades , minerals , money , Prothean discs and Asari writings , Salarian/Turian medals , saved the council , destroyed the collector base , saved all crew members , saved the hostages in Bring down the sky DLC .. etc , in short I did all the paragon decisions . maxed out my levels (60 ME1 /30 ME2 ) and experience in both games , played all DLCs (even pinnacle station).

Now I imported that into ME3 , once again I did all the missions , collected all war assets , sided with paragon every time , I had very high paragon and reputation points that allowed me to choose the best option in every situation and save everyone , I had the Geth and the Quarians , the Krogan and the Turians , also the Salarians and the Asari , the Batarian fleet , and the Terminus (Aria fleet) , also the Elchor and the Volus , all of that with paragon options and paragon persuasions .

Still after all of this I had only about 3700 EMS , I didn't touch multiplayer .

This makes me think that you truly can NOT exceed 4000 using single player only gameplay .. you need multiplayer to achieve that .


Alien 975
Alliance 1630
Crucible 755
Ex-Cerevrus 250
Krogan 870
Geth 815
Salaraian 153
Turian 633
Quarian 625

That was similar to mine on my second playthrough. I had a few more Salarian points, but it seems like the Salarian score is the wildcard here. I can't say more without heading into spoilers (and for some reason, I can't post there even though I'm registered here), but that score is probably the one that's causing the problems. 5 of your scores are absolute max, and the few that aren't  are only a few points off (probably from dialogue choices or something) and largely inconsequential. But man, I didn't see 4k in this game at all and I brought in a pristine save to play with.

[DavidGraham]

@tomcplotts :

I only lost one of the Salarian fleets , and it is worth only 100 points , so it really could not make a difference !

[rabidsmurf]

Well this is disheartening. Why am I playing a 2nd playthrough again? I had hope of reaching the EMS, now... not so much...

[OdanUrr]

I'll say this again 'cause I'm a nice guy.

According to the Coalesced list, and my calculations, there should be a total of 7,820 war assets in the single player campaign, that is 3,910 effective military strength. However, I cannot account for 300 war assets of the total 7,820. These would be: Element Zero Core and Cerberus Flotilla. If anyone found them in the game, I'd appreciate it if they let me know.

EDIT: Eezo Core is not to be confused with Eezo Converter.

EDIT2: 7,820 are the total war assets you can get for what I considered a "perfect" run.

Modifié par OdanUrr, 14 mars 2012 - 04:46 .

[Adynata]

My boyfriend and I sucked it up and played multiplayer. He now has several high level characters in multiplayer and even converted one lvl 20 to the SP special ops group, which I guess is a war asset? He then played through the SP campaign again and got the same ending choices. How much EMS does one need to reach before getting a suitable ending? Or, is there no suitable ending to get?

[OdanUrr]

Adynata wrote...

My boyfriend and I sucked it up and played multiplayer. He now has several high level characters in multiplayer and even converted one lvl 20 to the SP special ops group, which I guess is a war asset? He then played through the SP campaign again and got the same ending choices. How much EMS does one need to reach before getting a suitable ending? Or, is there no suitable ending to get?

Each N7 promotion represents 75 war assets. You need 4000+ for one of the "best endings" if you chose paragon/renegade responses at every turn. 5000+ if you didn't. Please someone correct me if I'm wrong.

[Nachtritter76]

Babe Mause wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Babe Mause wrote...

I just wanted to say that my friend with exact the same choices as me has double the amount of assets. And she indeed messed with coalesced file, but not to add assets and just for cosmetic reasons.

So there must be some bug in the game!

Are your copies of ME3 different in any regard? DDE, CE, standard digital/physical, different retailers? How did she alter the Coalesced? Did she do it herself or did she download one already altered?

I will ask her those querstions and add facts to the thread as soon as I get the reply. The only difference I know as of now, she has Russian version of the game.

That you specift "Russian" version of the game says to me you guys are not Russians, so I kind of wonder why your friend would go for that version, and if it's legit at all.

If it isn't, better not to bring it up. This thread isn't about editing your files, or non-legit versions of the game.

It's about how the game, as released, doesn't provide enough assets for players to achieve optimal ending conditions without resorting to MP or third-party platforms (iOS 5.0 devices).


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P.S. Even though no EA/BW employee has taken part in our discussions, I suspect they have been reading and taking notes. This thread would have been lockdown'd if we didn't behave in a civil manner (I hope it stays that way), and there's no way (I think) they haven't seen this thread --- as it's been hanging around Page 1 of this subforum for a few days now, and is at 40 pages.

Modifié par Nachtritter76, 14 mars 2012 - 05:43 .

[Nachtritter76]

Dimensio wrote...

Portia Cousland wrote...

This is so infuriating... I have zero desire to play MP and have been killing myself trying to get to the 4k WA b/c I fell short on my first game. I've even resorted to replaying it to find WA I may have missed through my first run and still I can only get approx 3600.

It's complete cr*p that there are "more war assets than are needed."

I'm at the point where I'm ready for Point of no Return and just going to sit there until a solution to this monumental BS is addressed in some form.

That's it BioWare, your credibility is zilch.

An unofficial solution, in the form of save file editing, is already available.

Unless things have changed recently, PS3 users are left out in the cold by solutions like this.

And 'fan solutions' are not the official solution. We shouldn't have to edit our games to make them work as intended.

[Klimax]

OdanUrr wrote...

I'll say this again 'cause I'm a nice guy.

According to the Coalesced list, and my calculations, there should be a total of 7,820 war assets in the single player campaign, that is 3,910 effective military strength. However, I cannot account for 300 war assets of the total 7,820. These would be: Element Zero Core and Cerberus Flotilla. If anyone found them in the game, I'd appreciate it if they let me know.

EDIT: Eezo Core is not to be confused with Eezo Converter.

EDIT2: 7,820 are the total war assets you can get for what I considered a "perfect" run.

Looking at c.bin (unpack into json files) it seems that they were disabled. (GUIName=0,GUIDescription=0,UnlockPlotStates[0]=0 for CerberusFleet) Maybe pending DLC. I am trying to dig through various files to see where are associated images or for Core desc. (referenced)

They might be those missing EMS points for SP. (Somebody then  forgot to check if that 4000 is then still obtainable)