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MaxQuartiroli

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Urazz wrote...

KBomb wrote...

Femmefatality07 wrote...

So my Total Military Strength isn't what mattered? It's my Effective Military Strength?
It's sitting at 3222 for my second femshep profile that Im trying to get near perfection. Am I literally ****ed without doing MP?



Afraid so. If you do try MP, keep in mind that the % value of your Readiness degrades some for every day you don't play it. So if you're still pretty early in your play through, I would consider waiting until you're closer to the end before you play it. Especially if you just want to play enough to give you a boost.

You generally only have to play 1 to 2 matches a day in bronze to bring you back up to 100%.


For people who can't play every single day because of their job or any other stuff, this thing of readiness who drops can be really bothersome. 
It's not enough that many people are forced to play something they aren't happy to play, but they also must have to play it often, if not every day. I was even disposed to play a bit of multiplayer just to see how it is, granted that many people after trying it told me it is funny.  
But I'd like to have at least the opportunity to not playing for a week if I have to go away for work or with my family, and to be able to do it without having to lose all my progresses.

Modifié par MaxQuartiroli, 16 mars 2012 - 04:53 .


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Majandraja wrote...

DragonRageGT wrote...

Femmefatality07 wrote...

So my Total Military Strength isn't what mattered? It's my Effective Military Strength?
It's sitting at 3222 for my second femshep profile that Im trying to get near perfection. Am I literally ****ed without doing MP?


I am not 100% sure that there is no way to get 4000 EMS with Single Player only, even if a NG+ is required to it.  I am sure Syrellaris did not mean Stargazer only but the Breath Scene ending because of the 4001 EMS mentioned.

But Multiplayer is a hell of a fun. Invite some friends and do some Bronze runs or join some public games (check the settings of the search screen and make sure it reads Bronze and not Any League). Bronze is ideal for new MP characters because they will not have the best weapons and consumable equipments which is definitely a must to survive in Gold League, plus a hell of a team too. Practice does it.

And if you don't have a wingman by then, give me a call. I'll fly with you.


Hm, how often do those who literally can't play the MP have to say that they seemingly can't reach 4000 EMS, let alone 5000 EMS in the singleplayer alone? I don't have internet connection with a TV in the same room, so I can't play MP, even if I wanted to - which I don't. And we already said, the War Assets don't carry over into a NG+. And even if the values for the WarAssets were higher in a NG+, shouldn't that be located as a value in the file we found the original values of the war assets in?


He was agreeing. :happy:
And offering to help if you -can- play online cause most people onilne are (explitive deleted).

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My EMS right after the Cerberus Base is 3594 on the first playthough so I know Femmefatality07 didn't get it to near perfection. For some reason there are small easy to miss asset gains around the citadel like the asari in the hospital going over her traumatic experience. I made a small contribution to the wiki, but .. trying to map out every war assets gain or loss across 3 games with some only being gained at the cost of others .. yeah. I'm going to see what NG+ can bring.

Edit: does the Prothean DLC give any war assets? I don't have it ..

Modifié par Marixus99.9, 16 mars 2012 - 09:12 .


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Marixus99.9 wrote...

My EMS right after the Cerberus Base is 3594 on the first playthough so I know Femmefatality07 didn't get it to near perfection. For some reason there are small easy to miss asset gains around the citadel like the asari in the hospital going over her traumatic experience. I made a small contribution to the wiki, but .. trying to map out every war assets gain or loss across 3 games with some only being gained at the cost of others .. yeah. I'm going to see what NG+ can bring.

Edit: does the Prothean DLC give any war assets? I don't have it ..


You get a war asset for her.

I was sure if I gave her gun I'd find she'd gone Juramentado in the presidium... given how it makes little difference anyway. this time around I'm inclined to.

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garf wrote...

Marixus99.9 wrote...

My EMS right after the Cerberus Base is 3594 on the first playthough so I know Femmefatality07 didn't get it to near perfection. For some reason there are small easy to miss asset gains around the citadel like the asari in the hospital going over her traumatic experience. I made a small contribution to the wiki, but .. trying to map out every war assets gain or loss across 3 games with some only being gained at the cost of others .. yeah. I'm going to see what NG+ can bring.

Edit: does the Prothean DLC give any war assets? I don't have it ..


You get a war asset for her.

I was sure if I gave her gun I'd find she'd gone Juramentado in the presidium... given how it makes little difference anyway. this time around I'm inclined to.


I know. There was also another specter terminal decision involving a civilian millitia after supporting one side of an argument. Now I'm wondering whether or not there are those I missed. I also remember I failed to support tali so perhaps supporting the turian would have lead to something.

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Klimax wrote...

Syrellaris wrote...

You get the best ending after you finish new game +. No one ever said you would get the perfect ending by just completing the game once. Seriously, you really do not need multiplayer to finish the game for the best ending, you just need multiple play troughs.

Bioware made it so, that you can get the perfect ending by playing multiplayer as well, not because you need it. You are complaining about something without actually looking further into it.


Seriously incorrect. New game+ does not enable any thing like that. (EMS are NOT transfered) Also some went through data files (coalesced.bin) and found there are not enough assets for 4000EMS. Are not! (In fact two asets which could just push it past mark, were disabled and not available)

So ironically, you are speaking about things you know little and should have read more about and in depth..


^ This. I have tried NG+ and no, nothing new happened (honestly wish I hadn't, because it was a waste of time because nothing changed)
Seriously, I wish they would somehow fix this...

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I did everything that I could and these are the numbers that I'm sitting on right before heading to the Cerberus Base. The only quest I didn't do is "Shrike Abyssal: Prothean Obelisk" because it currently doesn't give any war assets, despite the Volus implying it would, so I held on to it and am hoping for a patch. Has anybody gotten numbers higher than these?

Total: 7380
Effective: 3690

Alien: 1000
Alliance: 1701
Asari: 643
Crucible: 705
Ex-Cerberus: 260
Krogan: 790
Geth: 815
Salarian: 303
Turian: 638
Quarian: 525

The reaper brain should add another 110 to that, but I don't see what else I could do and/or have done.

Modifié par KefkaGestahl, 16 mars 2012 - 10:20 .


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Sorry, if question has already been asked.

If I import my Shepard with ~7000 military strength/ 3600 EMS (not counting the MP contribution) in NG+, will any of it transfer, or will I have to spend four hours on quick matches just to get EMS up again.

I like the MP but being forced into it this way makes me inclined to play offline and mod it. That's bs right there. =/

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That and the "Defender" achievement is online only, despite BioWare's promises.

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At the end of the day, to even come close to acheiving the "optimal" ending you have to sleepwalk through so many delivery quests that you may be bored to death prior to the ending. To me, it seemed as if BioWare said "Ok, technically you don't HAVE to play multiplayer. Let's just make it so unpleasant to avoid multiplayer that everyone will do it."

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Just finished the game. Couldn't get to 4K even with having explored every system and done every single side quest. Clearly there are not enough war assets to get get your EMS to the level to open up the "Deep Breath" ending. Perhaps Bioware might like to come clean and admit it, rather than just ignoring the question?

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A got an effective Military strength of 5080 without multiplayer by using the ME: Data Pad IOS app.

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KentGoldings wrote...

A got an effective Military strength of 5080 without multiplayer by using the ME: Data Pad IOS app.


That is great and I am glad that worked out for you. But, we were told - in a sticky over in the non-spoiler forum - and earlier that there would be enough war assets in the game to unlock all the endings via Single Player, ie. no Multi-player or no extra outside the game App. That is what we didn't get.

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The math doesn't work out ,does it. I figure you need a readiness of at least 70%. I don't figure we missed nearly 3,000 points someplace.

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Oops, double post.

Modifié par KentGoldings, 17 mars 2012 - 02:46 .


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KentGoldings wrote...

The math doesn't work out ,does it. I figure you need a readiness of at least 70%. I don't figure we missed nearly 3,000 points someplace.

Only if you let Anderson die, though. Most people are finishing just above 7000 TMS and thus 3500 or more EMS. So you really only need, at worst, about 7% extra readiness from multiplayer or 2 successful matches to get the Shepard lives in the Anderson saved scenario (4000 ems).

Not excusing the need the of multiplayer when they specifically said that it wouldn't be, just trying to keep the complaint honest.

Modifié par Tumedus, 17 mars 2012 - 02:52 .


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*** spoilers***

Not sure what "Saving Anderson" means. He seems to expire no matter what. Got IM to shoot himself though. That was satisfying. Gone through it about our times trying different things.

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Tumedus wrote...

KentGoldings wrote...

The math doesn't work out ,does it. I figure you need a readiness of at least 70%. I don't figure we missed nearly 3,000 points someplace.

Only if you let Anderson die, though. Most people are finishing just above 7000 TMS and thus 3500 or more EMS. So you really only need, at worst, about 7% extra readiness from multiplayer or 2 successful matches to get the Shepard lives in the Anderson saved scenario (4000 ems).

Not excusing the need the of multiplayer when they specifically said that it wouldn't be, just trying to keep the complaint honest.


Well it doesn't matter how much you need if you can't get your system hooked up to the internet,you don't have time to play or you don't have XBL gold. Not to mention the multiplayer itself being terrible and the very exsistant possibilty of getting saddled with a class you know nothing about due to its poor design. So the complaint is perfectly honest.

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ILEC wrote...

KentGoldings wrote...

A got an effective Military strength of 5080 without multiplayer by using the ME: Data Pad IOS app.


That is great and I am glad that worked out for you. But, we were told - in a sticky over in the non-spoiler forum - and earlier that there would be enough war assets in the game to unlock all the endings via Single Player, ie. no Multi-player or no extra outside the game App. That is what we didn't get.


We were also told that the ending would be very definitive. :P

Not trying to be snarky, it's just that Bioware is quickly gaining themselves the same type of reputation Peter Molyneux has.

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KentGoldings wrote...


*** spoilers***

Not sure what "Saving Anderson" means. He seems to expire no matter what. Got IM to shoot himself though. That was satisfying. Gone through it about our times trying different things.

Anderson dies regardless, its just that you can prevent tIM from finishing him off before you have the heart to heart. Effectively, that final pep talk is worth 1000 EMS.

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We were also told that the ending would be very definitive. :P

Not trying to be snarky, it's just that Bioware is quickly gaining themselves the same type of reputation Peter Molyneux has.




Oh don't get me started. That bastard shot my dog.

Modifié par KentGoldings, 17 mars 2012 - 12:23 .


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metawanderer wrote...

This is one my biggest complaints for Mass Effect 3.


/agree

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I am not getting anything near that number in my games so don't understand what i am doing wrong.

I have no saves so always play a new game and i am far short on what is required so i hope this is fixed.

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NovinhaShepard wrote...

Sorry, if question has already been asked.

If I import my Shepard with ~7000 military strength/ 3600 EMS (not counting the MP contribution) in NG+, will any of it transfer, or will I have to spend four hours on quick matches just to get EMS up again.

I like the MP but being forced into it this way makes me inclined to play offline and mod it. That's bs right there. =/


You'll find the anwser in many place in this thread including in a post just two post before yours. No NG+ doesn't change anything.

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Yes, I did every single quest in ME3 and I didn't even reach 4000. Same as you.