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#1276
MartialArtsSurfer

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why don't you get the better graphics version on PC with free online?

You can get graphics cards 5x as powerful as the xbox360 that will turn any PC into more powerful gaming machine than any console..like nvidia Geforce 460 & up or Radeon 6850 & up for about $99 on sale on the Hot Deals forum at sites like www.SlickDeals.net or www.FatWallet.com

The biggest myth is that a gaming PC costs $1,000+ when all you need is to upgrade the video card for about $99

or buy a used PS3 for $99 & get free online too but it's much better to get free online & much better graphics with a geforce 460 or radeon 6850 or better for just $99 that's easily 5x as powerful with better graphics than any console

(compare PC versions of Battlefield 3 vs console or Skyrim HD mod vs console versions)

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"On my first playthrough, which was a ME1 -> ME2 -> ME3 import I had more than 4,000 EMS. This was before I touched multiplayer meaning that my readiness was still at 50%. This means I had over 8,000 TMS."

No you didn't. We've proved numerous times in this very topic IT'S NOT POSSIBLE. Unless you happend to be playing the PC version and downloaded something with edited values without knowing it. Not one person that has claimed this has proved a screen that didn't have used values.

"why don't you get the better graphics version on PC with free online?"

Because I had ME 1 & 2 on the 360 and by the time I found out you could transfer saves to the PC version the special edition I had pre-ordered was all sold out.

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CmonCmon wrote...

"On my first playthrough, which was a ME1 -> ME2 -> ME3 import I had more than 4,000 EMS. This was before I touched multiplayer meaning that my readiness was still at 50%. This means I had over 8,000 TMS."

No you didn't. We've proved numerous times in this very topic IT'S NOT POSSIBLE. Unless you happend to be playing the PC version and downloaded something with edited values without knowing it. Not one person that has claimed this has proved a screen that didn't have used values.

I have edited nothing in any game files, downloaded nothing etc. I have now checked the save and my TMS is 5983, readiness at 98%.

I was wrong it seems. But I still got all 3 endings to choose from on that playthrough. Dont know if Shep would have lived since I went with the green explosions.

I must remember my readiness wrong or something.

Modifié par Evrathiel, 27 mars 2012 - 09:07 .


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CmonCmon

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Yah thought so.
Have to pick the red for Shep to live.

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MartialArtsSurfer wrote...

why don't you get the better graphics version on PC with free online?

You can get graphics cards 5x as powerful as the xbox360 that will turn any PC into more powerful gaming machine than any console..like nvidia Geforce 460 & up or Radeon 6850 & up for about $99 on sale on the Hot Deals forum at sites like www.SlickDeals.net or www.FatWallet.com

The biggest myth is that a gaming PC costs $1,000+ when all you need is to upgrade the video card for about $99

or buy a used PS3 for $99 & get free online too but it's much better to get free online & much better graphics with a geforce 460 or radeon 6850 or better for just $99 that's easily 5x as powerful with better graphics than any console

(compare PC versions of Battlefield 3 vs console or Skyrim HD mod vs console versions)


I have a fairly good gaming machine (not top-end, but good enough for anything current).  Yes, the graphics blow away the 360.  Unless I'm interested in mods, or it's a genre that just doesn't work well on consoles, I tend to go for the console as a matter of ergonomics.

Something about lounging on the couch, controller in hand, in front of th bigscreen tv is much more comfortable than sitting at my desk with a keyboard/mouse.  The PC definitely has its merits and has a place in my gaming arsenal, but consoles are better for just kicking back and playing.

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CmonCmon

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You know you can hook your PC up to your TV and play with your 360 controller right? Plus everything not made by EA or Activitision is $10 cheaper on PC with no tax.

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CmonCmon

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Do we have to send cupcakes to get things done? =|

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[quote]Jep13 wrote...

[quote]metawanderer wrote...

I could deal with the broken animations (so apparently in the 22nd/23rd centuries, people can turn their heads/neck at impossible angles to look behind themselves...)

[/quote]


LOL  .. so true.

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Jep13 wrote...

Casey Hudson said in countless interviews that it would be possible to achieve the "best" ending through single-player alone and that multiplayer would not be forced down anyone's throat.

It turns out that this was a half-truth.

Its practically impossible to get the best ending through single-player alone UNLESS:

- You followed a very strict path through the trilogy, making the exact perfect choice for every decision. So forget about making the decisions you wanted to make, you'll have to follow a bullet point list of decisions.

- Alternatively, you beat the game on New Game +, where crap like fishes give War Assets.

I've done everything in this game, busted my ass to scan every single planet, even achieved various diplomatic victories that netted my huge amounts of War Assets. And still I cannot meet that "best" ending.

I am incredibly disappointed by this. Bioware slapped multiplayer, a feature that a fairly prominent portion of their fanbase wouldn't care to play. That was fine in and of itself, but to force it on the single-player game the way they did, after saying they wouldn't is just dishonest.

I was a faithful to the mass effect series since the launch of the first game. And because of that faithfulness and playing on the xbox 360 against my better judgement, I am now doomed because I do not play for Live Gold, ence I cannot even play the multiplayer if I wanted to.

Bioware made a terrible call here.

With the ending of the Mass Effect trilogy, the failure that DA2 was, and the boring carbon-copy that SWTOR is, I am no longer tied to Bioware. And after this constant spree of terrible decisions that mar otherwise great games, I can say that I will be approaching future Bioware titles with more reserve and much less enthusiasm. 

I like Bioware, hell I even have an old friend Marc-Antoine Matton that worked there, but it just feels like they've lost their touch.


I didn't play any mp outside of the demo before beating the sp and I got access to the "best" ending. This was with an imported save though and not to be a beyatch but having a good imported save SHOULD MATTER so I'm not complaining. Even if it's just to see a tiny little intake of breath, at least it's SOMETHING.

But I know at least one person on my freinds list thats having problems getting enough rep/paragon/renegade to deal with the elusive man in the way he wants who is stuck with the default start since this is his first ME game and that sucks. To be fair though, I don't think he's gathering all his assets through the scanning and crap like that because he seemed surprised to hear that was important... The f--k? lol, CoD player at his finest, haha.

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It's on the 6th page and still no answers/explanation.

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Epic thread, People cannot get more than 4k in SP? porbaly because rushing pirority mission. At the end mission i got something like 5600+ with 46% multiplayer. 2nd playthrough (after multiplayer week = 100%) i have ended with 6500+. Without "From ashes" DLC.

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Drumoff wrote...

Epic thread, People cannot get more than 4k in SP? porbaly because rushing pirority mission. At the end mission i got something like 5600+ with 46% multiplayer. 2nd playthrough (after multiplayer week = 100%) i have ended with 6500+. Without "From ashes" DLC.


Epic answer which unfortunately shows you didn't read many of the comments. I say it again: I did every, and I mean every scanning mission (all the galaxis on my map are at 100% where they can be), I did all the side missions I could find. And no, I did not get more than 4k EMS, I got to 3475 or something.

So no, I did not just rush priority mission and complain that I didn't get more than 4k EMS. I did everything I could find to do before the Cerberus base and didn't get to 4k EMS, I'm complaining about that.

Edit: From your 6500+ comment, I take it that you don't mean EMS, which is decided upon the galactic readiness and troop strength, but the troop strenght alone. Which would mean that you didn't get to 4k EMS either.

Modifié par Majandraja, 01 avril 2012 - 10:26 .


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Drumoff wrote...

Epic thread, People cannot get more than 4k in SP? porbaly because rushing pirority mission. At the end mission i got something like 5600+ with 46% multiplayer. 2nd playthrough (after multiplayer week = 100%) i have ended with 6500+. Without "From ashes" DLC.



At 100% GR a 6500 EMS is equated to 6500 War assets which if you don't play MP means your GR is 50%.
6500 X 0.5 = 3250 EMS ergo NOT above 4K

Modifié par Subguy614, 01 avril 2012 - 02:23 .


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IF GR doesnt drop below 50% (but i saw 46%(bug?)), u dont have to play multiplayer in order to get best ending, which lead to question "Whats ur problem people?".
I got same endings on both my shep's (GR ~50% and 99-100%).
PS: I read 1st 4 pages and 2 from the end, plus few random pages.

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I have tried multiplayer and its rather to fast for me i spent long amount of time die'n just so I can get 105 G.R

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@Drumoff It's almost completely futile correcting you because there will be five more people making the same mistake by the time you read it but you do not have that much EMS without playing multiplayer. Most likely, like 90% of the other people with this claim, you're confusing EMS with TMS. Less likely but equally possible, your assets are bugged. Not sure how you got less than 50% readiness as it's impossible. Don't clutter our thread with misinformation please!

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So I'm still not totally clear on what the "best ending" is.

I held off playing the final mission as long as I could so I could get all the assets possible. I also cracked and did the Protheon DLC. Other than that I did no multiplayer and no other games.

TMS - 7083
EMS - 3541

Fromn what I understand, as people are defining it, I did get the "best ending."

Highlight For Minor Spoiler
There was a scene after the credits.

Maybe the DLC pushed me over the top? Maybe the choices I had made in previosu games did it?

Modifié par JediRob, 03 avril 2012 - 02:58 .


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The minimum is 4000 EMS...

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MegaSovereign wrote...

The minimum is 4000 EMS...


I understand that is what everyone has been saying, and that's what I was shooting for, but I had exhausted every possibility so I just went for it and played the final mission finally.

Again, if we're defining "best ending" as I noted, I got it with that readiness.

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JediRob wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

The minimum is 4000 EMS...


I understand that is what everyone has been saying, and that's what I was shooting for, but I had exhausted every possibility so I just went for it and played the final mission finally.

Again, if we're defining "best ending" as I noted, I got it with that readiness.


The scene everyone is talking about is
SPOILERS
Seeing Shepard breath after choosing the red ending, ergo proof that s/he is alive

Edit:  And I absolutely agree with the OP.  It's incredibly lame that I have to pay for Xbox Live Gold to get the "best ending".  Not that it makes much difference, since the endings are so bad, I'm pretending they don't exist anyway.

Edit2: From what I've gathered from playing and from stuff I've heard was in the art book, I'm pretty sure Bioware considers the Synthesis ending the "best ending", whereas the scene I mentioned above was simply a little Easter Egg thing you could get for playing NG+ or multiplayer.  Still lame.

Modifié par Atrilial, 03 avril 2012 - 05:16 .


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If you see the 10 sec clip at the end where the person in N7 armor takes a breath after picking the destroyed ending, then you got the best ending possible. To meet these requirements you must have an Effective Military Strength over 4000 (this is the score on the bottom after TMS and Galaxy Readness if factored in) and you must prevent T.I.M. from killing Anderson through a paragon or renegade choices. If you didn't save Anderson then your EMS must be over 5000. Now it is not possible for anyone playing SP only to get an EMS score of over 3600 without 1. MP 2. Glitches in the game 3. a mod save game file. So for anyone that states they have EMS over 4000 please do some simple checks before you post.
1. check that you are looking at the bottom # EMS not the top # TMS
2. that your Galaxy Readness is not over 50%
3. That you are not playing a new game after all ready beating the game once. Not New Game+, a new game because there is a glitch that doubles your TMS.
4. You are not playing with a Gibbed Save File or modded Bin file.

IF you can answer all these questions with YES the please post a screen shot of your EMS score and a breakdown of all your points so we can clarify that this is correct and true. The game has been data-mined by thousand of people and it is not possible to get over 3600 EMS and that is a perfect choices play though from ME1 to ME3.

Modifié par Eragondragonrider, 03 avril 2012 - 05:10 .


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Got it. That is not the scene I saw at the end of the credits. What I saw at the end was...

Spoiler:
Old man 'Shepard' in the future.

I have been doing my best to avoid spoilers so I wasn't totally sure what I was lookig for, only that it was a post credits scene that showed... Shepard lived.

Guess that will have to do for now.

For what it's worth I didn't have any real problem with the ending. Especially given all the anger and coverage it's been getiing. I started to get really worried it was going to be truly awful. As it turned out it was just a pretty average video game ending. I'm happy with the journey. And I didn't have to play MP.

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That scene is every ending (that's with an imported character anyway) and it's not Shepard because it doesn't change for FemShep.

Modifié par CmonCmon, 04 avril 2012 - 08:46 .


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Does doing NG+ have any affect on the EMS score then? I thought EMS was reset for NG+ with no benefit for bothering to do it.

Ok can someone confirm whether you need a certain EMS level to save Anderson (save being a relative term since pretty much everyone dies after you choose an ending anyway)? I've been holding off finishing any of my playthroughs just in case they did fix the ending, but all evidence suggests that won't happen.

I can kinda see why Bioware consider the Synthesis ending to be the 'best' providing you saved the Geth, as otherwise you've basically just saved them and then killed them anyway (not to mention EDI). Does rather seem like capitulating though. I shall call the Synthesis ending the 'Inverted Pinnochio' ending 'I wish I wasn't a real boy'.

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All-a-Mort wrote...

Does doing NG+ have any affect on the EMS score then? I thought EMS was reset for NG+ with no benefit for bothering to do it.

Ok can someone confirm whether you need a certain EMS level to save Anderson (save being a relative term since pretty much everyone dies after you choose an ending anyway)? I've been holding off finishing any of my playthroughs just in case they did fix the ending, but all evidence suggests that won't happen.

I can kinda see why Bioware consider the Synthesis ending to be the 'best' providing you saved the Geth, as otherwise you've basically just saved them and then killed them anyway (not to mention EDI). Does rather seem like capitulating though. I shall call the Synthesis ending the 'Inverted Pinnochio' ending 'I wish I wasn't a real boy'.


PAX is 2 days away. I'd say wait 2 more days before writing BioWare off completely.

Your EMS is not used when determining whether Anderson lives or dies. You can charm/intimidate the illusive man and stop him from killing Andersson if. 1. You use a charm/intimidate option EVERY time you talk to the illusive man (Mars, Thessia, Cronos station) and 2. if you have a high enough reputation. You can also save anderson by using the renegade interrupt though I do not know if it always appears or not.