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[Dimensio]

bobnice31 wrote...

I hear you there, the only goods news is multiplayer is fun. however what happens a couple of years from now when no one really plays multiplayer anymore and I want to play the story again, am i going to be stuck with low readyness rating no matter what i do?

Use a save editor to inflate awarded war asset values.

[TheFinalDoctor]

I'd be okay if they added a bot match version of MP and got rid of the degrading readiness, but I'm sure that's too much to ask for in the Extended DLC

[princekai13]

Just adding my voice to the complaints here.
Now I hate multiplayer, but I'm also a completionist, so i like getting all the achievments. So sometimes, I jump online, mainly on PS3 since I almost never pay for a service that should be free. Now I find one of my favorite games is adding multiplayer, no biggie, bioware assured us that MP wasn't necessary, well, there is one achiement that makes it so, but they were refering to the endings. Now not only do I HAVE to play multiplayer, something that I hate as it gets old, I have to KEEP playing multiplayer to keep my readiness up for later play throughs. to top it off, my readiness is only going up by 1% a game now that I'm at 94%

At the very least Bioware, get rid of the depleating readiness.

To meet us half way, get rid of required multiplayer.

To be great to us, do both above, and don't screw up dragon age 3.

[Reever]

I just hate the fact MP is needed to achieve even an ending, doesn´t matter if it´s the best or not...
It goes against what Bioware have stated!

Maybe this will be true after another story DLC? But that couldn´t possibly bring so many points to the game so we could achieve an EMS of 4000, or could it?

Modifié par BlueDemonX, 15 avril 2012 - 12:39 .

[JaegerBane]

TheFinalDoctor wrote...

I'd be okay if they added a bot match version of MP and got rid of the degrading readiness, but I'm sure that's too much to ask for in the Extended DLC

Absolutely. Or hell, just an ability to re-do N7 missions with reward being increased readiness.

[vadrillan]

Not sure if it's aready been mentioned (can't face 54 pages atm) but I think, as after finishing the game you're returned to the save point at the last point you can possibly gain any more TMS, there will be plenty of paid DLC which will just happen to contain more war assets.

[spacehamsterZH]

Just throwing my observation in here: the other day I completed a playthrough where I got everything except the support of the geth, scanned every cluster to 100% and did every fetch quest, and I ended up with just over 6100 before the GaW multiplier. so either the geth are worth almost 4000 points, or it's not possible to get 5000 without playing online.

[CmonCmon]

I think you missed a lot more than that. I had 7101 TMS.

[CuseGirl]

Dimensio wrote...

bobnice31 wrote...

I hear you there, the only goods news is multiplayer is fun. however what happens a couple of years from now when no one really plays multiplayer anymore and I want to play the story again, am i going to be stuck with low readyness rating no matter what i do?

Use a save editor to inflate awarded war asset values.

You realize people play this game on Playstation 3?

[CmonCmon]

Still no update on this?

[All-a-Mort]

Ok chaps, so using Datapad and Infiltrator I finally got a readyness rating of 100% and subsequently a decent EMS. But will I need to retreat to just before the Horizon mission to lock that score in (my first 'stalled' playthrough was left just before earth so EMS will be only 3400 or so otherwise). And does the EMS level then stay the same for the remainder of that playthrough, through Horizon, Cerberus base and Earth, or do I need to keep topping it up? Want to get that canon run out the way so I can NG+ it and enjoy the combat a little more, while I wait to see if DLC content ever arrives.

[Gnaeus.Silvanus]

To finally nail this coffin shut, just play MP with a minimum of five bronze victories and you're good to go to view all the best colored endings.

[All-a-Mort]

Gnaeus.Silvanus wrote...

To finally nail this coffin shut, just play MP with a minimum of five bronze victories and you're good to go to view all the best colored endings.

And you miss the point...of this entire thread. 

[Gnaeus.Silvanus]

Its okay to play with other people once in a while. Insisting about getting your EMS high enough without MP is pointless wouldn't you say.

Unless a new DLC comes out and awards enough war assets let's say 500 you can wish MP goodbye if you want to raise it as high as possible.

[All-a-Mort]

Well I'm not that bothered, as I have the iOS apps, so I can increase EMS (that said the endings are rubbish any way you look at it). My question was about the readiness degradation and how that interacts with the finale of the game and at what point the EMS score is considered locked in.

The annoyance over the EMS level possible by playing SP only has been gone over at length enough, and is just one of many promises that were not kept by Bioware/EA. I tend to think the only reason people care about getting the 'breathe' ending is in the blind and no doubt vain hope that there is post-conclusion DLC that builds on that particular 'best ending'. Otherwise, whether Shep lives or not, it's not exactly the pay off we were hoping for after 5 years of playing. Personally I seriously the forthcoming explanatory DLC will cushion the blow any, though it might set the scene for any further ME titles (though honestly I don't see any being made now).

[Dimensio]

Gnaeus.Silvanus wrote...

To finally nail this coffin shut, just play MP with a minimum of five bronze victories and you're good to go to view all the best colored endings.

Your advice is entirely unhelpful and lacks any constructive merit.  It also fails to validate pre-release claims issued by BioWare.  

[Khevan77]

Gnaeus.Silvanus wrote...

Its okay to play with other people once in a while. Insisting about getting your EMS high enough without MP is pointless wouldn't you say.

Unless a new DLC comes out and awards enough war assets let's say 500 you can wish MP goodbye if you want to raise it as high as possible.

Two issues with this line of thinking.  One, pre-release quotes from developers at Bioware state that it's entirely possible to see all content within ME3 by playing the single player campaign exlusively.  This is incorrect.  There is an easter-egg ending that is spoilerific (since the thread title says no spoilers I won't type it here, but I think everyone pretty much knows what I'm talking about), but that ending cannot be accessed without an EMS that is impossible to achieve without outside help.  Thus, saying that we could access all content without MP is a lie, or something is wrong with the system where we should be able to access the ending, but can't for some reason.  Thus far, Bioware isn't saying anything official, so we can't say which is the case.

The second issue with your line of thinking is this:  Right now, there are people who have very poor internet connections, and trying to play MP with huge lag is not fun.  There are people on Xbox who can't afford a Gold membership, and are barred from playing multiplayer.  There's also the possibility that in the foreseeable future, the ME3 multiplayer servers won't be active for a variety of reasons, so what happens then?

I play multiplayer.  It's fun, I enjoy it, but having it be required to access all content (even a 10 second easter-egg-ish clip) when it was specifically stated this wouldn't be the case?  well, that's just wrong.

[CG Drum]

Yeah - not a fan of MP at all, have the game on Xbox and dont want to have to buy live membership to play MP to obtain something that was promised would be accessible via SP only!

If MP was a requirement it should have been made clear on the game when I purchased it - it wasn't.

If new DLC content is going to make obtaining 4000 EMS possible then why won't Bioware just come out and tell us? Admit it and at least we will know where we stand then.

Really fed up with being told just go play MP or just use an App - we don't all have iphones and good internet access... what we are asking for isn't going to affect the people who have these already, we are just asking to be able to achieve all parts of the game no matter how short/small those parts might be. Especially after playing through all three games for many hours. Doesn't seem a lot to ask...

[JayhartRIC]

Before the game came out, I basically thought you would have to have a perfect playthrough across all 3 games to get the best ending. So I'm pleasantly surprised that you can use multiplayer to do it as well. The whole concept is superfluous if you can get the best ending with no regard for the first 2 games.

[All-a-Mort]

JayhartRIC wrote...

Before the game came out, I basically thought you would have to have a perfect playthrough across all 3 games to get the best ending. So I'm pleasantly surprised that you can use multiplayer to do it as well. The whole concept is superfluous if you can get the best ending with no regard for the first 2 games.

Even more superfluous when you consider how 'good' the best ending is.

[OBakaSama]

I would consider a boon if the implication that the multiplayer somehow gives players the necessary EMS if they don't have the other two games; more specifically for PS3 owners who never got the chance to play ME on the PS3. This would allow them access to the last ending available so they really don't miss out.

I don't consider it a boon for those who played both games though. Saying the concept is superfluous is somewhat...'wrong' to me. To me the multiplayer ultimately renders any decision you make during the games utterly worthless as the consequences don't matter when multiplayer can give you the EMS you need.

Even worse if you don't game online.

[Ravennus]

So Chris "Evil" Priestly locked our mega thread on this very subject, in the General Discussion forum.

http://social.biowar...662/73#11653471

As people have pointed out, Mike Gamble has said on his Twitter account that we are investigating this . When we have information on it, we will let everyone know.

You can also post this topic, if it has not already been posted, in the technical support forum for your platform.


LOCKDOWN!

I would recommend we all gather here, as it's the 2nd largest thread on the issue... but from what Chris said, I expect another imminent LOCKDOWN while they try to herd us into the platform specific forums.

Being told to shut up really shows how much they are listening... *sigh*

[CG Drum]

Can't believe that having sent everyone to the other thread they have now shut it down - that is just... well I'm speechless....

[JaegerBane]

Ravennus wrote...

So Chris "Evil" Priestly locked our mega thread on this very subject, in the General Discussion forum.

http://social.biowar...662/73#11653471

As people have pointed out, Mike Gamble has said on his Twitter account that we are investigating this . When we have information on it, we will let everyone know.

You can also post this topic, if it has not already been posted, in the technical support forum for your platform.


LOCKDOWN!

I would recommend we all gather here, as it's the 2nd largest thread on the issue... but from what Chris said, I expect another imminent LOCKDOWN while they try to herd us into the platform specific forums.

Being told to shut up really shows how much they are listening... *sigh*

For the benefit of those who weren't following the other thread, why was this locked down? Are they treating the 'not enough ems without MP' issue as a bug or something?

[Daramatis]

JaegerBane wrote...

Ravennus wrote...

So Chris "Evil" Priestly locked our mega thread on this very subject, in the General Discussion forum.

http://social.biowar...662/73#11653471

As people have pointed out, Mike Gamble has said on his Twitter account that we are investigating this . When we have information on it, we will let everyone know.

You can also post this topic, if it has not already been posted, in the technical support forum for your platform.


LOCKDOWN!

I would recommend we all gather here, as it's the 2nd largest thread on the issue... but from what Chris said, I expect another imminent LOCKDOWN while they try to herd us into the platform specific forums.

Being told to shut up really shows how much they are listening... *sigh*

For the benefit of those who weren't following the other thread, why was this locked down? Are they treating the 'not enough ems without MP' issue as a bug or something?

"Are they treating the 'not enough ems without MP' issue as a bug or something?"

Yup, my pm from Chris Priestly said that the platform specific tech support forums are the relevant place to continue discussing this, and it is being looked into.

I've already posted in the xbox one; I'd encourage everyone else to do the same, for your platform, to keep the momentum up and provide as much feedback as possible for any possible fix.