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[Flashlegend]

BIO18 wrote...

I wasnt even half way in the game that my military points where max... without playing multi. stop complaining

Sorry, but you don't know what you're talking about.

[djarlaks10]

I've just spent 2 hours in this goddamn multiplayer and will play 2 hours tomorrow just to get enough points for that best ending. Are you happy now, Bioware? (However, there is no chance that I will play this MP **** again)

[Mx_CN3]

djarlaks10 wrote...

I've just spent 2 hours in this goddamn multiplayer and will play 2 hours tomorrow just to get enough points for that best ending. Are you happy now, Bioware? (However, there is no chance that I will play this MP **** again)

You know you don't need to be at 100% to get the best ending, especially if you do a completion run, right?  I'm thinking around 65% should be enough, especially if you're around the 3600 mark.  Also, if it's that painful, play as an engineer (or, even better, a quarian infiltrator, if you are lucky enough to get one), and play against Geth.  You can pretty easily get to wave 6+ solo, even at low levels, and you'll get 2-4% from a single run.

[djarlaks10]

Mx_CN3 wrote...

djarlaks10 wrote...

I've just spent 2 hours in this goddamn multiplayer and will play 2 hours tomorrow just to get enough points for that best ending. Are you happy now, Bioware? (However, there is no chance that I will play this MP **** again)

You know you don't need to be at 100% to get the best ending, especially if you do a completion run, right?  I'm thinking around 65% should be enough, especially if you're around the 3600 mark.  Also, if it's that painful, play as an engineer (or, even better, a quarian infiltrator, if you are lucky enough to get one), and play against Geth.  You can pretty easily get to wave 6+ solo, even at low levels, and you'll get 2-4% from a single run.

Well, I have no problems in MP, it's just that I'm not a huge fan of it (even though it's somewhat similar to GoW's Horde mode, Horde is way cooler than this thing). However, if 65% is indeed enough then I'll probably leave it be (considering that I already have 73% readiness). Thank you sir 

[Forsythia]

I just finished the game, and now I'm even more PO'd than before. Because I don't play multiplayer, I was a few points short on well... that would be a spoiler.

[Indylavi]

G3rman wrote...

Funny thing is you are never FORCED to do anything. None of the endings have a major difference anyway.

Yes, I suppose you are right. In a philosophical sense. I am not forced to do anything. Not even die. After all is death an end or a beginning. The problem with these arguments is that it's very straw man. True, the endings don't have any big differences and matter not. Yes, life has bigger problems and will go on. No big deal really. I suppose it's about the principle of it.

I paid for a product under the illusion that I would be able to achieve an optimal ending. I got this illusion because the creator of this product told me that over and over. That I did not need anything extra. I could get the full ending by just playing single player and could still complete it totally. I need not worry about MP. In fact they seem to make a point of telling me this.

Well, I was not told the truth. At least not in full. Perhaps, I wasn't lied to but more misled. As it turns out I do have to use MP to get that full ending. Yes, that ending isn't important. Yes, I can walk away and not play it etc... But it doesn't change that fact that I was told one thing. Then the opposite happened. No, I don't think they will change it just for me either. I'm just venting I suppose

[2leggywillow]

djarlaks10 wrote...

I've just spent 2 hours in this goddamn multiplayer and will play 2 hours tomorrow just to get enough points for that best ending. Are you happy now, Bioware? (However, there is no chance that I will play this MP **** again)

Well unfortunately you can't just grind MP at the beginning and then stop: it decreases by about 2-3% every day you don't play.  I think it might be a 1% decrease every 8 hours?  Maybe even more often than that.

[brfritos]

The whole problem is MP should have a more forgiving impact in the game, but 50% os readiness?
I think is too much.

With 50% you are forced to make every single quest in the game and can't choose what you want, because you need the war assets that come with the quests, so you basically don't play for fun.
Playing two maps in MP already gives you almost 60% of readiness, so you don't need to make too much scanning and side-quest missions.

A patch could change the EMS of SP to 65%, what people think?

[Andy Roark]

:: shrug ::

I hear you Indylavi. That guy is probably right. Both of us are probably taking this a little too seriously. But you know what we aren't doing? Replaying Mass Effect 3. After I finished 1 and 2 I started a replay almost instantly and then did it again and did it again.

This time I'm out here ranting like an internet crazy person. Maybe you are too. In a day or so I'll get distracted by something else. I'll start a new game. I'll dust off Skyrim and kick that adventure back off. In a few months I'll hear about ME3 DLC and I'll briefly consider giving it a shot to see if they fixed anything.

And then I'll remember Diablo 3 is sitting on my hard drive. And that Skyrim game I played after ME3. I'll also remember just how badly this "internet crazy person" binge felt and I'll choose to not open myself up to that possibility.

Bad play Bioware. You've got some serious problems and a casual look around these forums show that we are in the majority and the "STFU quit whining" contingent of apologists are few and far between. You better hope they buy a lot of Veteran packs.

[BatmanPWNS]

Just a question out of curiosity what does NG+ get you in ME3?

[Metshael]

Just finished the game with almost 7200 TMS an no play in MP so that make 3600 EMS, not enough to obtain the "best" ending.

Started from an import save, ME1 & 2 finished at 100%, all missions, side missions and DLC, full paragon and i do the same thing for ME3, come back to the citadel every time i do a mission to see if i can do something more and scan every system but i think the 4000 EMS necessary (some say 5000 or even 6000 ?) to see the best ending is doable without playing the mp part because some choices i made make me loose some point (like the spectre choice for the two asari in the Huerta Memorial Hospital), the wiki will probably have all the choice and theirs consequence in a few days so we can see if it can be obtainable or not.

Or maybe Bioware wanted the game to be like this thinking they will sell more DLC later "Hey if you buy this DLC for 1200 MS you can gain 2000 TMS and a 15% boost to your Readiness Rating so you can have acess to everything without playing to the Multiplayer part of the game" but the bad thing in that is the ending without epilogue, where is the replayability ? Why should i buy the next DLC, play the MP part or even import another one of my 22 shepards created over the years if that don't change anything in the end... I go see on Youtube the scene i missed at the end and that's all, Mass Effect is over.

[MassStorm]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Just a question out of curiosity what does NG+ get you in ME3?

All your previous weapons, plus some research upgrade from the cabin fishes (don't asky why), further upgrades for weapons and mods. That's it. War assets do not carry over.

[RocketManSR2]

TC, are you actually complaining that the best ending is tough to get? Please tell me you weren't one of the ones b****ing that having everybody survive in ME2 was too easy....

[Nachtritter76]

maxulic wrote...

You gain 3% of galactic readiness for every won match, that's 17 matches to go from 50% to 100%. It's about 4 hours of Bronze runs, then you just need to run one match every day to keep it at 100%, are you telling me that you can't spread 17 matches during your whole SP campaign?!

Well, tbh I was thinking of getting it on Xbox 360.

So no, I wouldn't even play the MP at all.

Why?

Because I don't see why I should pay for Xbox Live GOLD on top of buying ME3.

[Mx_CN3]

djarlaks10 wrote...

Well, I have no problems in MP, it's just that I'm not a huge fan of it (even though it's somewhat similar to GoW's Horde mode, Horde is way cooler than this thing). However, if 65% is indeed enough then I'll probably leave it be (considering that I already have 73% readiness). Thank you sir 

Well, make sure you check your math before you commit to something.  Apparently people are having trouble past the 3500 EMS at 50% (7k total) section.  65% would be 4550 EMS at 7k, which is more than enough.  If you have 7000 total, then 58% should be enough (7000 * 58% = 4060).  At 73%, you'd only need 5480 total to get 4000 EMS

[Ledipaa]

Lol, someone said. "Yeah I got 4k ems with no import fresh start" It is impossible in everyway. For the start u cant get enough reputation like that to do the best choices.

[Nachtritter76]

My question is: WHY?

Why the EMS BS?

Why?

Seriously. Why? Why should it impact the SP experience AT ALL? Why? If the MP is GOOD on its own, people will play it for its own value. The problem of it having any sort of impact on the SP campaign is that it forces people who want to fully experience everything the SP to go and do something they either don't want to do, or CAN'T do. I'm not gonna buy a freaking Xbox Live Gold membership just for this game, Bioware. So I'm screwed? Or I have to get it on another platform? Good old EA, telling me what to do with my money and what to buy.

And I read the points gained from multiplayer degrade over time?

What the ... ???

So basically, two or three years down the line, if nobody else is playing the MP, and I want to go through the game again (provided I decide to buy it, which is nowhere near certain anymore), I'll have to suffer from the potential lack of players --- or even loss of service when it eventually happens? I'll no longer be able to access things I was able to access before?

Plus, you guys go and give the illusion to people that they can PLAY THE GAME ON ANY DIFFICULTY THEY WANT. From what I've played of the demo, using the 'Story' whatever difficulty setting with emphasis on plot and little on combat, it feels so easy as to be ridiculous.

Yet, the MP is not the same walk in the park.

Therefore, people who pick the easy solution because they care more about the plot than the fighting may not find MP to be a very enjoyable experience.

So  yeah.

Why?

Modifié par Nachtritter76, 11 mars 2012 - 08:44 .

[Paulinius]

The PLC wrote...

I'm about halfway through the game (I think) and my EMS is at 2178. Is that good?

Eh, hard to say.

Depending on your repuation which will allow you paragon and renegade dialog options, you need to go "past the point of no return" with an EMS of 4,000 and use the paragon (don't know if renegade works) dialog options afterwards for the "best" (deep breath) ending assuming you pick the "right" one.

If you're not going to go all paragon (renegade), you need 5,000 EMS.

[NeoNight1986]

odd... i ran though first time mass effect 3. did what i wanted and how i wanted it.. and i ended up with around 6000 war assets ... 1000 over the max required.

[NeoNight1986]

Icinix wrote...

Azazel005 wrote...

So people are finding much the same as I am then? I have fairly extensive playthrough's I was able to get my strength into the vicinity of about 3800 which is still a touch short of the 'best' endings from what I understand. I don't think I missed much in any of the three games in question and while I suppose I can consider playing multiplayer I'd rather not.

It's fairly ...disappointing. Has anyone seen a 5000+ in single player alone? (so 10k with 50% readiness)

5000 effective war assets in SP is not possible at this stage.

It may be possible with future DLC however.

That said - I also don't think its needed. Saw the 'best' ending with war assets just over 7000 giving effective value around 3500 or something.

i got over 6000 ... single player by it self.. what are you guys doing? or not doing?
6326 to be precise. 

Modifié par NeoNight1986, 11 mars 2012 - 09:08 .

[Mx_CN3]

Nachtritter76 wrote...

My question is: WHY?

Why the EMS BS?

Why?

Seriously. Why? Why should it impact the SP experience AT ALL? Why? If the MP is GOOD on its own, people will play it for its own value. The problem of it having any sort of impact on the SP campaign is that it forces people who want to fully experience everything the SP to go and do something they either don't want to do, or CAN'T do. I'm not gonna buy a freaking Xbox Live Gold membership just for this game, Bioware. So I'm screwed? Or I have to get it on another platform? Good old EA, telling me what to do with my money and what to buy.

And I read the points gained from multiplayer degrade over time?

What the ... ???

So basically, two or three years down the line, if nobody else is playing the MP, and I want to go through the game again (provided I decide to buy it, which is nowhere near certain anymore), I'll have to suffer from the potential lack of players --- or even loss of service when it eventually happens? I'll no longer be able to access things I was able to access before?

Plus, you guys go and give the illusion to people that they can PLAY THE GAME ON ANY DIFFICULTY THEY WANT. From what I've played of the demo, using the 'Story' whatever difficulty setting with emphasis on plot and little on combat, it feels so easy as to be ridiculous.

Yet, the MP is not the same walk in the park.

Therefore, people who pick the easy solution because they care more about the plot than the fighting may not find MP to be a very enjoyable experience.

So  yeah.

Why?

1) You can do the multiplayer by yourself.
2) BioWare has said (though I can't confirm for myself) that the best endings can be had from single player alone.
3) The "story" setting is an option.  Not only that, but you can change the difficulty once you've selected it, if I remember correctly.  The "action-rpg-story" modes only give you presets from the options menus, and you can change all of them.

[wrdnshprd]

not sure what the issue is.. i didnt play a SINGLE match of multiplayer.. dont even have xbox live gold.

here is my point total at the end of the game:



i was able to get access to the endings that required 5k points and are posted on the IGN guide (spoilers obviously):

http://www.ign.com/w...ffect-3/Endings

Modifié par wrdnshprd, 11 mars 2012 - 09:12 .