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Control Ending, Relays are not destroyed.


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Costin_Razvan

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I finished the game just over 2 hours ago and since then I've been thinking about the endings. I had 5000 EMS, preserved the Collector Base and did stop TIM from executing Anderson.

I took the Destroy Ending first, since I had read the leaks, watching leaked ending videos and listened to the Catalyst dialogue on youtube long before I even reached the Citadel. I thought that if the Relays are going to be destroyed anyway I might as well have Shepard alive at least, destroy the Reapers and destroy all AI ( I like EDI and the Geth but AIs really bothers me ). 

Pretty much happaned as I expected. Crucible fired a red beam. Charon Relay smashed into 1000 pieces ( and with that I imagine all other Relays as well ), Citadel destroyed, Earth saved, saw Shepard survive.

Then I relaoded and took the control ending. Shepard merged himself with the Citadel...but instead of firing the crucible the Citadel emitted a strong blue wave. Reapers taken control, Citadel does NOT get destroyed. Charon does NOT get smashed into 1000 pieces, though I saw it getting damaged but not completely ****ed.

Does this mean the Relays don't get destroyed in the Control ending? The Catalyst stated that releasing the energy of the Crucible would destroy all the Relays, and that does indeed happen n Destroy ( same in Synthesis though I sure as hell did not care to watch that ending expect on youtube ) but in Control you don't fire the Crucible through the Citadel. Instead the Citadel just closes up after emiting the blue wave.

EDIT: Control Ending on Youtube

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 11 mars 2012 - 03:55 .


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UnbornLeviathan

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Pretty sure they all get blown up in every ending.

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"releasing the energy of the Crucible will destroy the Mass Relays."

-The Catalyst..

No matter what you pick the Relays are going to be destroyed in the process.

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So Anderson is alive after TIM or he dies anyway ? Wiki says otherwise

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Costin_Razvan

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UnbornLeviathan wrote...

Pretty sure they all get blown up in every ending.


I am not so sure. Linked a youtube vid about control in the first post, got the exact same cinematic myself.

 
"releasing the energy of the Crucible will destroy the Mass Relays."  


The Catalyst is NOT fired in Control and the Citadel IS a Relay.

 
So Anderson is alive after TIM or he dies anyway ? 


Anderson does die, sadly. You can prevent TIM from executing him though.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 11 mars 2012 - 03:57 .


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Anderson survives for a while after TIM, but presumably succumbs to his injuries.

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revo76 wrote...

So Anderson is alive after TIM or he dies anyway ? Wiki says otherwise


Anderson will survive a few minutes more before he dies if he survives the encounter with TIM. He'll tell Shepard how proud he is of him/her and then die sitting next to Shepard.

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The Angry One

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Control - Keep reapers, destroy relays. Make galaxy even more harvestable?

Oooh yeah those relays are so bad. Hey remember standard Reaper tactics? Deny all organics use of the mass relay network. Congratulations Shepard! You conducted Reaper strategy! Permenantly!

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Incorrect.

The Relay is destroyed.

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In all ending they back fire. But apart from the Good ending they explode, where as the good ending they just explode without a explosion destroying the system like in The Arrival.

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Costin_Razvan

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SandTrout wrote...

Incorrect.

The Relay is destroyed.


Damaged, but not destroyed. Watch the synthesis ending or destroy ending, that's destruction.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 11 mars 2012 - 04:00 .


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SliPaladin

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Your YouTube link shows the relays getting raped by the Crucible, maybe you should double check your game.

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The Angry One

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Costin_Razvan wrote...
The Catalyst is NOT fired in Control and the Citadel IS a Relay.


Watch vid, around 16:20. Mass relay starts to break apart, you then see the relay detonations on the galaxy map.
The only difference is it appears the Citadel is not destroyed so hey, Earth won't suffer a nuclear winter in control at least.

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The relays are destroyed due to the epilogue. Although it makes no sense why they'd be destroyed, or not at least rebuilt, by the time of the epilogue since reaper tech still works.

/headhold

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Costin_Razvan wrote...

SandTrout wrote...

Incorrect.

The Relay is destroyed.


Damaged, but not destroyed. Watch the synthesis ending or destroy ending, that's destruction.

Cmon man, face the facts the ending was hilariously horrible. The relays are destroyed either way, nothing you can do. 

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SliPaladin wrote...

Your YouTube link shows the relays getting raped by the Crucible, maybe you should double check your game.


Incorrect. This is the crucible:
 

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Not sure what you are getting at. I've seen and edited all 3 endings, and the clip of the relays is exactly the same in every one. Barring the color, of course.

The Citadel is a relay, but it's only a relay to Dark Space.

Modifié par JigPig, 11 mars 2012 - 04:02 .


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Costin_Razvan wrote...

SandTrout wrote...

Incorrect.

The Relay is destroyed.


Damaged, but not destroyed. Watch the synthesis ending or destroy ending, that's destruction.


Are you watching the same video? It's ripped apart, then you see massive system wide detonations on the map!

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Penguins wrote...

The relays are destroyed due to the epilogue. Although it makes no sense why they'd be destroyed, or not at least rebuilt, by the time of the epilogue since reaper tech still works.

/headhold


Or, you know, since you control the Reapers, why wouldn't you have them build new ones?

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Costin_Razvan

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The Angry One wrote...

Penguins wrote...

The relays are destroyed due to the epilogue. Although it makes no sense why they'd be destroyed, or not at least rebuilt, by the time of the epilogue since reaper tech still works.

/headhold


Or, you know, since you control the Reapers, why wouldn't you have them build new ones?


I am certain Charon got damaged, but destroyed? There is an extra scene on Destroy where we see it in pieces, we don't in Control.

The thing with Charon is that control doesn't have an extra scene that the other 2 endings have, and the Citadel is not destroyed.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 11 mars 2012 - 04:05 .


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The kid specifically said the mass relays would be destroyed in my ending after he gave me all 3 choices, it was like an "oh btw" type thing not attached to any specific choice.  That was with 90% readiness from multiplayer and getting as much war assets as i could.

Modifié par Kersca, 11 mars 2012 - 04:06 .


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Yeah, that's exactly what I mean. Even if the relays were destroyed deploying the code, they can still rebuild them.

I mean, what does the ending even imply Shepard did with all those reapers? They just chilled I guess.

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Costin_Razvan wrote...

SandTrout wrote...

Incorrect.

The Relay is destroyed.


Damaged, but not destroyed. Watch the synthesis ending or destroy ending, that's destruction.

Okay let's say it's "damaged" which is not, how are we supposed to repair it? 

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I do not understand why the relays being destroyed is so suprising to some people. Both in some intel reports and in statements by some side characters it is stated that the crucible operates by overloading ALL of the relays in order to send out a controlled wave of energy.

Some of this is stated  in the same intel where. if you gather enough assets, you see they are working on making sure the crucible only destroys reapers instead of just destroying everything (which is why with low assets everything blows up, because those scientists/resources werent there to perfect the crucible).

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Costin_Razvan wrote...

SandTrout wrote...

Incorrect.

The Relay is destroyed.


Damaged, but not destroyed. Watch the synthesis ending or destroy ending, that's destruction.

If you're going to ignore this kind of obvious evidence, there's nothing anyone can do to help you on this point.