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[Genera1Nemesis]

They were all destroyed in every ending. Bioware clearly has a direction for Mass Effect 4 with this, so it cannot be changed. All that you can choose is the approach.

[Costin_Razvan]

The kid specifically said the mass relays would be destroyed in my ending after he gave me all 3 choices

I got the same dialogue. The kid stated exactly that for me as well, but his exact wording is: "Releasing the energy of the Crucible will end the cycle, but it will also destroy the Mass Relays"

[hawat333]

The Relays had to be destroyed or disabled. That was clear since we learned in ME1 that they are the tool of the Reapers. If you guys didn't expect that, you weren't listening.
The only other possible outcome was an alliance with the Reapers (let's say they are actually harvesting advanced species because they are prepearing to defend the whole Universe from a stronger outside force), but that didn't happen.

[Costin_Razvan]

Okay let's say it's "damaged" which is not, how are we supposed to repair it?

Reapers which you just gained control of?

 
If you're going to ignore this kind of obvious evidence, there's nothing anyone can do to help you on this point. 

And you are going to ignore the Citadel surviving ONLY in Control and the lack of a scene that is in Synthesis and Destroy ( that of Charon in 1000 pieces after the pulse in sent ), as well as the fact that the Crucible did not fire a beam into Charon and instead the Citadel emitted a wave?

Sure go ahead.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 11 mars 2012 - 04:12 .

[SandTrout]

hawat333 wrote...

The Relays had to be destroyed or disabled. That was clear since we learned in ME1 that they are the tool of the Reapers. If you guys didn't expect that, you weren't listening.
The only other possible outcome was an alliance with the Reapers (let's say they are actually harvesting advanced species because they are prepearing to defend the whole Universe from a stronger outside force), but that didn't happen.

Not sure if serrious....

The Reapers are either under Shepard's control or destroyed with the Red and Blue endings. Without the Reapers to spring the trap of the Relays, they relays themselves pose no threat.

[The Angry One]

Zyrious wrote...

I do not understand why the relays being destroyed is so suprising to some people. Both in some intel reports and in statements by some side characters it is stated that the crucible operates by overloading ALL of the relays in order to send out a controlled wave of energy.

Some of this is stated  in the same intel where. if you gather enough assets, you see they are working on making sure the crucible only destroys reapers instead of just destroying everything (which is why with low assets everything blows up, because those scientists/resources werent there to perfect the crucible).

You'd think that by gathering enough assets, you'd have enough brainpower so they figure out how to make the relays send the pulse without shredding themselves.
But that would be dangerously close to giving us some choice in the game ending that isn't determined by the resident machine god.

[Zyrious]

hawat333 wrote...

The Relays had to be destroyed or disabled. That was clear since we learned in ME1 that they are the tool of the Reapers. If you guys didn't expect that, you weren't listening.
The only other possible outcome was an alliance with the Reapers (let's say they are actually harvesting advanced species because they are prepearing to defend the whole Universe from a stronger outside force), but that didn't happen.

I agree with this, the relays being destroyed was foreshadowed a LONG time ago, and repeatedly. Society;s reliance on reaper tech is what made them so vulnerable. Its not like everyone is doomed, FTL still works. Civilization will just start reforming in pockets of the galaxy instead of galaxy wide, until faster FTL and replacement, non-reaper relays are designed.

[Russmandarin]

The relays pose no threat whatsoever without the reapers or you know the cycle ending so there goes that theory out the window. In control they definitely have to be destroyed because there's no way of knowing whether shepard will remain in control of them forever. All the other endings? Yeah they screwed the galaxy over big time with their paranoid overkill.

Modifié par Russmandarin, 11 mars 2012 - 04:16 .

[Costin_Razvan]

Personally I agree with TIM on taking control over the Reapers. I strongly disagree with him on using Reaper tech directly on humans, the implants he used for instance and other stuff, but there is a lot we can learn from the Reapers: FTL drivers, ship armor, mass effect cores, construction of Relays.

I am willing to take that risk, but this thread is not about that.

[Menagra]

Zyrious wrote...

I do not understand why the relays being destroyed is so suprising to some people. Both in some intel reports and in statements by some side characters it is stated that the crucible operates by overloading ALL of the relays in order to send out a controlled wave of energy.

Some of this is stated  in the same intel where. if you gather enough assets, you see they are working on making sure the crucible only destroys reapers instead of just destroying everything (which is why with low assets everything blows up, because those scientists/resources werent there to perfect the crucible).

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yeah except you blow up all the relays now matter what you do.