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[Valo_Soren]

I praise Bioware for their bold move forward with their endings, they had to know that the scathing fan reaction would be big, but I still trust Bioware and they've promised some pretty sweet DLC and I love Mass Effect more then I ever have. Yes I've played the first two games several times and still like the ending. I for one don't believe my choices were meaningless. I for one believe that the end game choice presented is a result of those choices that the Catalyst gives you the chance to make that choice in the first place. They realize their current solution will no longer work, so they ask Shepard to choose a new one. I find that brilliant. It is bitter sweet and it is a more sacrifice for the greater good approach but to me thats more realistic then a typical hollywood-esque ending such as riding off into the sunset with your LI after sticking ti to the Reapers or only having one or two choices like at the end of ME 1 and 2 (which are still awesome endings too, don't get me wrong) this time you have three choices (depending on war assets obviously).

I know I'll probably get slammed by people but I encourage those afraid to speak up that like the endings to post here and make yourself known, don't let everyone else frothing at the mouth discourage you. A great ending to a great series that I will continue to love and cherish for many years.

[Valo_Soren]

Bump

[Crash Okami]

I like what I've heard/read about the endings so far. I would definitely be turned down massively if BioWare pulled another Gears of War 3, where the war magically ends AND the hero is on the beautiful beach with his girl, watching the sunset. I'm tired of this type of endings. But my opinion on BioWare's endings might change once I get to finish the game.

[Valo_Soren]

This is from the awesome, awesome dude who wrote a lot of Mordin's lines and ME3 sidequests.

Fan Question: A'ight, you don't have to answer this if you don't want too, but is every ending you losing? The one I read was the mass relays being destroyed or somesuch, I didn't dig too deep but it sounded like the reapers got rid of effective FTL travel.

Dev response: That's one way to look at it. Another way to look at it is that the galaxy is free from the specially limited technology that the Reapers have been using to guide evolution from time before memory.

My boss talks about Leningrad after WW2. A whole lotta dead people. A whole lotta buildings knocked down. The war really kicked the crap out of it.

I went to Saint Petersburg (aka Leningrad) back in 2004. It's a gorgeous city full of vibrant people, wonderful art, great food (and sure, crime, pollution, poverty, and all the bad stuff, too). From the end of the war, that's, what, 60 years?

A lot of planets are going to be looking like Leningrad at the end of ME3. That doesn't mean that they lost, and it doesn't mean that they've been destroyed forever.

-From another thread.

[Tartilus]

Oh boy, you sure told that Strawman off, Valo.

[Crash Okami]

I agree with the developer, it's not like Mass Effect ended. People wonder how they will continue it from this point on? Well, guess what, it's fantasy science fiction, they can pull a space Jesus for ME4.

[Agamemnon2589]

I think you're missing the point about how most people want the ending to play out. Yeah, there are some who would like to have a fairytale-esque ending where everything comes out alright. But I think the majority of people would simply like to see their Shepard "walk off into the sunset with their LI" regardless of how many losses galactic civilization takes. It doesn't all have to end happily, the Reapers don't have to magically be destroyed by an (completely illogical, by the way) ancient superweapon, and galactic civilization doesn't have to sustain anything other than nigh-catastrophic losses. We just want our Shepard, who has literally sacrificed almost everything to save the galaxy, to be able to go and find what little happiness they can at the end of the game. Personally, I'm getting tired of the kinds of endings we WERE given. It seems like every book I read or movie I watch lately has some BS, depressing conclusion that was meant to be thought-provoking and philosophical. Well, it didn't provoke thought for me, and it didn't make me philosophize. It just bummed me out.

And now I'll leave and not argue with you, because I know this is a thread for people who liked the endings. Just wanted to say my piece.

[Adain878]

Im glad you enjoyed the ending, the whole issue is how it comes completley out of left field, makes your choices mean nothing. I'm personally a bit annoyed about the lack of a happy ending although i don't mind grimdark endings if thats what they wanted to do. But this ending is just bad, look at my sig for my run down on it.

And then you have the whole theory on it being a dream/vision which i can see. If thats the case bioware has pulled off the greatest troll of all times.

Modifié par Adain878, 11 mars 2012 - 06:06 .

[Noidnil]

Aside from the fact thatit hasn´t to end happily, but it has to end somehow, right? For me, this feels not even close to completed, the end is not only not really end-y, but I feel like it misses the point by not a mile, but several galaxies.

Also, there won´t be a ME4, it was planned as trilogy, so no continuation, which is why people are so unhappy about it. If they had a hope for it, it wouldn´t be so bad.

[Crash Okami]

Noidnil wrote...
Also, there won´t be a ME4, it was planned as trilogy, so no continuation, which is why people are so unhappy about it. If they had a hope for it, it wouldn´t be so bad.

BioWare has stated that the ME series is not over; Shepard's saga is over. The first three games, this trilogy, was Shepard's story, and yes, this ended.

[JamesGray33]

all i wanted was a decent end. imo shepard is supposed to die. I wanted to see SOMEONE crying over my death. I had absolutely no closure with the end, and if bioware plans on fixing that with paid DLC, screw that. I shouldn't have to wait or pay for DLC to feel like I got a complete ending. I mean c'mon I saved so many damn people, even batarians and I got 0 thanks. Ever since ME1 nobody believed my that the reapers were coming. They finally came. I was right and I didn't rub it in anyone's face.But still nothing, no statue of me built on the random planets people crashed on or whatever.

Besides when you beat the game and reload, it bring you to right before the final mission. That means any dlc wil take place BEFORE the final mission and will not be able to change or resolve the ending.

[VerdantSF]

It's great that you liked these endings. However, it would've been nice to have the tragic endings *AND* endings where Shepard beats the odds, stays true to the ideals of free will and self-determination, and manages to be reunited with the people he has cared about since ME1.

[John Locke N7]

alright good, you guys stay here then =0

[lasertank]

The DESTROY ending - You betrayed Geth and EDI because your Shepard did not ever argue with that stupid kid AI. He did not even try to convince the Catalyst there could be peace between machine and organics. That Shepard contradicts his own characteristic and personality. Illogical and contrived.

The SYNTHESIS ending - Why does the synthesis process requires Shepard to dissolve himself? Is there anything special in his DNA? If the synthesis is the ultimate solution why had it not been done before? What roles do human play in this action? Why would someone be stupid enough to jump into the green beam before all these questions got answered?

The CONTROL ending - If controlling the reaper requires Shepard to sacrifice? The Catalyst said it controls the reaper? Why did not Shepard try to argue with him to leave with reapers? Why did not Shepard tell the Catalyst "You are the threat to the galaxy, not machines or synthetics." Without these argument why would anyone believe what the Catalyst says?

As I said. All 3 plots are all contrived, ill-written, and illogical. They are simply traps to force to make stupid choices. Bioware thinks such kind of endings would seem noble, dark, and deep but they are not. They are simply cheap and ruined the trilogy.

[Noidnil]

That´s actually another thing that bugs me, after the very short explanaition, you get to choose, I was so confused at that point I just walked around for 5minutes trying to wrap my head around what is going on and what will happen when I decide on this or that.

[ebevan91]

The actual ending itself, as in where you go/what happens isn't THAT bad, it's how it's presented and followed up.

There's like, no epilogue or anything explaining WTF happened or WTF happens next.

[Ariq007]

I'm glad you liked the ending, more power to you. But for me, it's not about the endings being "too dark" or whatever, it's about, among other things, just not being very good, providing no resolution or sense of accomplishment, and practically nullifying the choices I've made throughout the series.

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

Crash Okami wrote...

I like what I've heard/read about the endings so far. I would definitely be turned down massively if BioWare pulled another Gears of War 3, where the war magically ends AND the hero is on the beautiful beach with his girl, watching the sunset. I'm tired of this type of endings. But my opinion on BioWare's endings might change once I get to finish the game.

You know what? I really liked GoW3's ending. Lots of people died, including the hero's best friend, but in the end they pulled through. It wasn't a "rainbows and sunshine" ending; it was a well-earned, decently happy ending. It stayed true to what the series had been from the start.

Everything ME3 wasn't.

[Crash Okami]

My opinion? It was horrible. Ever since you reunited with Adam, he "wanted to tell you something"... never did. Myrrah knew your father somehow, and she was a human... never found out why. Then, Adam created a virus that got transmitted across the planet (!) and killed only the Locust and Lambent... convenient.

Seriously, the ending created more questions than answers, and was horrible. In this respect, judging from what people say, it's in the same scope as ME3.

[Evil_medved]

"Esoteric"? "Shocking"?

Starting from "Elevator to heaven" it just felt outright stupid. I was *shocked* by lack of closure and tons of plotholes, not by boring death of Shepard, which was pretty much obvious.

Modifié par Evil_medved, 11 mars 2012 - 06:39 .

[WarGriffin]

Valo_Soren wrote...

I praise Bioware for their bold move forward with their endings, they had to know that the scathing fan reaction would be big, but I still trust Bioware and they've promised some pretty sweet DLC and I love Mass Effect more then I ever have. Yes I've played the first two games several times and still like the ending. I for one don't believe my choices were meaningless. I for one believe that the end game choice presented is a result of those choices that the Catalyst gives you the chance to make that choice in the first place. They realize their current solution will no longer work, so they ask Shepard to choose a new one. I find that brilliant. It is bitter sweet and it is a more sacrifice for the greater good approach but to me thats more realistic then a typical hollywood-esque ending such as riding off into the sunset with your LI after sticking ti to the Reapers or only having one or two choices like at the end of ME 1 and 2 (which are still awesome endings too, don't get me wrong) this time you have three choices (depending on war assets obviously).

I know I'll probably get slammed by people but I encourage those afraid to speak up that like the endings to post here and make yourself known, don't let everyone else frothing at the mouth discourage you. A great ending to a great series that I will continue to love and cherish for many years.

More power too you... but The endings aren't bold, their not thought provoking and hell Thier not really endings, thier events that happen at the end of the game. The endings literally feel like BW made them for the sake of changing the game at the last five minutes "Swerve for the Sake of Swerving"

The problem with the Endings... Is Alot of them throw out either bets and pieces of ME1 and Me2's plot to justify itself, hell itt igonores stuff in it's own story to justify itself

"Synthetics and Organics cannot coexist cause Synthetics are on a railroad thought process that will lead them to kill Organics" -Thus I will make a bunch of synthetics to kill organics before they can make those synthetics-

The Geth backstory and history pretty much destroy this arguement... and your honestly saying it's good bold writing?

Look I get it, We need to be positive... and for the most part 95% of Me3 is a good game. But really after some of the very good plot discussions that look at what the ending is pushing forward... and the fact that it feels very much like a Jrpg ending with Star God fixing everything

It just kinda time to face the fact.. BW phoned this ending in, and it does not live up to what was promised.

[fluffyburrito]

In a trilogy praised and defined by choices, the ending doesn't give you any. You are funneled into one choice out of three. None of your actions to this point affect the ending whatsoever. My Paragon who made peace with both the geth and quarians, cured the genophage, etc. gets the exact same ending as the insane Renegade who killed every single person he met in all three games. All choices made in ME1, 2, and 3 are completely devalued. This alone makes someone who has experienced the ending of the trilogy have no desire to replay the game, knowing that nothing they do actually matters.

Not to mention the whole plot of all 3 games has been destroying/surviving the Reapers and stopping TIM from controlling them. ME3's ending came out of nowhere and wasn't even hinted at.

Every single person I've talked to in real life has agreed the ending sucks.  Heck, I happened to see my PHILOSOPHY instructor at my college, who is an avid gamer, and he says the endings were interesting but didn't belong in the series.

Modifié par fluffyburrito, 11 mars 2012 - 06:48 .