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[PrinceLionheart]

Dixa wrote...

NICKjnp wrote...

I played through with a vanguard, only used medigel three times. And...couldn't finish it because after all the work I put into it I wasn't able to shoot the marauder's shields off with a pistol. Worst. End. Boss. Ever.

because charge nova'ng made you lazy. shoot the marauder in the HEAD. aim carefully.

That and why only use a pistol in the first place? Hell, you could use an Avenger and any SMG with the weight reduction upgrade and still be able to spam charge.

[vekkth]

I was loving AR soldier with mattock in ME2. it was a bit easy but it was so much fun, slamming in headshots watching them go down. In ME3 its absolutely another story, i didnt play other classes but its obvious since there is not so much protected enemies (and protection is much easier stripped off due to normalized powers, hello incineration), so i actually struggle a lot sometimes. In ME3 soldier had 3 distinctive playstyles, all of them were really fun and unique - a mattock headshotter, a widow soldier and inferno revenant soldier for those who like to tear throw enemies up in close.
In ME3 you actually play a soldier like, say, Battlefield 3? you have to be very careful, AR is not so effective, Mattock is not so effective (and i've yet to get Saber), and worse of all while playing you realize that it is just not as fun as other classes.

On the other hand ME3 feels more "realistic" for soldier since in ME2 it was really a god mode class after you have enough upgrades for headshot/damage.

[Sarah Aran]

PrinceLionheart wrote...

Dixa wrote...

NICKjnp wrote...

I played through with a vanguard, only used medigel three times. And...couldn't finish it because after all the work I put into it I wasn't able to shoot the marauder's shields off with a pistol. Worst. End. Boss. Ever.

because charge nova'ng made you lazy. shoot the marauder in the HEAD. aim carefully.

That and why only use a pistol in the first place? Hell, you could use an Avenger and any SMG with the weight reduction upgrade and still be able to spam charge.

You may have missed the joke here...

[Eeshaan]

PrinceLionheart wrote...

Dixa wrote...

NICKjnp wrote...

I played through with a vanguard, only used medigel three times. And...couldn't finish it because after all the work I put into it I wasn't able to shoot the marauder's shields off with a pistol. Worst. End. Boss. Ever.

because charge nova'ng made you lazy. shoot the marauder in the HEAD. aim carefully.

That and why only use a pistol in the first place? Hell, you could use an Avenger and any SMG with the weight reduction upgrade and still be able to spam charge.

Where I come from, you don't mess around with Marauder Shields.

[Spikko]

Sentinel was my first playthrough in insanity and it's still funny as hell.
You have all that you need to deal with every situation and you are not forced to have any specific squadmate.
This let you bring whoever you think is more suited lorewise for any mission.
I just love that class.

[blitzzz]

Contrary to ME2 where soldier was by far the easiest class, in ME3 all classes are equally viable. Just keep in mind that importing a lvl 30 character will make the game a bit too easy.

Modifié par blitzzz, 19 mars 2012 - 03:37 .

[Calkhan]

blitzzz wrote...

Contrary to ME2 where soldier was by far the easiest class, in ME3 all classes are equally viable. Just keep in mind that importing a lvl 30 character will make the game a bit too easy.

Sorry, but i gotta disagree about this. there was no best class in me2. I finished every class on insanity and they all have distinct strengths and weaknesses. personally my easiest playthrough was my widow engineer or my complete control engineer. seriously, try it.

[Calkhan]

Calkhan wrote...

blitzzz wrote...

Contrary to ME2 where soldier was by far the easiest class, in ME3 all classes are equally viable. Just keep in mind that importing a lvl 30 character will make the game a bit too easy.

Sorry, but i gotta disagree about this. there was no best class in me2. I finished every class on insanity and they all have distinct strengths and weaknesses. personally my easiest playthrough was my widow engineer or my complete control engineer. seriously, try it.

oops infiltrator, soz for double post

[Thetri]

This is confusing, some of you are saying vanguard is easy and some are saying it's the hardest. Which class is overpowered like sentinel was really in me2?

[Sarah Aran]

Thetri wrote...

This is confusing, some of you are saying vanguard is easy and some are saying it's the hardest. Which class is overpowered like sentinel was really in me2?

It's hard to say that the Sentinel was anywhere near overpowered in ME2. For all the defensiveness you could get out of it, you lost in offensive capacity.

[Gaidren]

Engineer was the OP class in ME2, in my opinion. Exploding drone spam absolutely locked down some of the tougher enemies who otherwise caused problems.

In ME3, it depends a bit on playstyle. It isn't Soldier, because Adren Rush got toned way down compared to ME2 (although it is still a very viable class for Insanity, I did it). It isn't Sentinel, because Tech Armor kind of sucks now (as does every defensive power other than Defense Matrix in my opinion).

Most Insanity deaths happen because a grenade, a Brute, or a Banshee forced you out of cover and a bunch of mooks mowed your ass down. Vanguard's Charge and Infiltrator's Cloak give you safe mobility in those situations and can be life savers.

On the other hand, Engineers and Adepts can do ridic pure damage by power spamming (especially Adepts, now that you can do combos on armored targets unlike ME2). They don't have the "oh crap" buttons that Infils/Vans do, but they mow down mooks so fast that you aren't at as much risk when you do get forced from cover by nasty stuff.

So /shrug.....long story short, anything pretty much works. I'd avoid Sentinel personally.

[Petrikles]

^
You might want to re-evaluate the sentinel. I am currently playing one and since he has overload, I consider him an improved adept. Throw->Warp is all you need, for shielded enemies you add Overload. Really, very simple and "insanely" easy.

[ashwind]

If you want to own everything... I think Vanguards and Adepts are probably the best. Blue explosions all over the place XD

I think I am gonna start a Soldier. I think Soldier should be challenging.

[Thetri]

Sarah Aran wrote...

Thetri wrote...

This is confusing, some of you are saying vanguard is easy and some are saying it's the hardest. Which class is overpowered like sentinel was really in me2?

It's hard to say that the Sentinel was anywhere near overpowered in ME2. For all the defensiveness you could get out of it, you lost in offensive capacity.

I pretty much plowed through the game once I had my tech armor maxed. If enemies managed to get through my shields, the shields exploded killing or knocking down anything in its path. All I had to do then was reactivate and continue blasting away with my assault rifle.

[Gaidren]

Kailord wrote...

^
You might want to re-evaluate the sentinel. I am currently playing one and since he has overload, I consider him an improved adept. Throw->Warp is all you need, for shielded enemies you add Overload. Really, very simple and "insanely" easy.

Fair enough, in other words it can play like an Adept in every way that counts and has Overload to cover shields (Adepts are kind of reliant on taking Energy Drain as their bonus power to cover that).  It isn't like anybody is forcing you to put points into Tech Armor if you use Sentinel.

Thanks for the input.

[Calkhan]

Sarah Aran wrote...

Thetri wrote...

This is confusing, some of you are saying vanguard is easy and some are saying it's the hardest. Which class is overpowered like sentinel was really in me2?

It's hard to say that the Sentinel was anywhere near overpowered in ME2. For all the defensiveness you could get out of it, you lost in offensive capacity.

very true, but not if ur a good assualt sentinel like mine was in me2

[TheBigLebowski]

Is it better to start a new game for insanity or is it easier to play insane with a new game plus leveled char?

[Doriath]

TheBigLebowski wrote...

Is it better to start a new game for insanity or is it easier to play insane with a new game plus leveled char?

NG+ character.

[Karimloo]

Engineer. I think. I played Engineer on ME2 Insanity. So.. Maybe it might not be the same. But..

[Gromnir]

Sarah Aran wrote...

Thetri wrote...

This is confusing, some of you are saying vanguard is easy and some are saying it's the hardest. Which class is overpowered like sentinel was really in me2?

It's hard to say that the Sentinel was anywhere near overpowered in ME2. For all the defensiveness you could get out of it, you lost in offensive capacity.

I would probably put sentinel above soldier (sans mattock) in ME2.

Sentinel had the best defense via tech armor.  It also had overload AND warp to deal with any enemy protections.  On top of all this, it could get faster cooldowns than either the engineer or adept due to its class ability giving 30% faster recharge instead of only 20%.

The soldier had more offensive power than the sentinel, but the sentinel offense did just fine standing next to an engineer or adept.

Give the sentinel the locust and armor-piercing or warp ammo as a bonus because your cooldowns were used for warp, overload, or tech armor.

Modifié par Gromnir, 20 mars 2012 - 03:35 .

[TabrisAbound]

My NG+ Vanguard just tore through Insanity.
- The ~3 sec Charge-Nova spam cycle makes you a biotic god version of the Flash.
- You can use Energy Drain as your bonus power (spec'd for damage) to deal with shields turrets and Banshees
- Incineration Ammo gives bonus damage v. unshielded targets and armor
- You can spam Pull and Charge for easy Biotic combos (the former is also great for Guardians)
- You can carry a Disciple, Paladin and Vindicator/Locust for all range combat (because charging Banshees, while doable, should only be a last resort) and still keep the 200% weight bonus

I usually took Garrus and Liara (the former for Overload and the latter for Warp) as extra shield/barrier destruction backup. Otherwise I just zipped around the field kicking ass.

That being said, feeling invincible and being invincible are two completely different things. It takes a lot of skill to play VG on Insanity. Rolling is your friend - roll for your life. Look before you leap, and be prepared to act if you suddenly find yourself face to face with a previously unseen turret (because there will be one). And there are those annoying times when you can't seem to get a lock on anything even though it's two feet in front of you. Then you die and you have to play the last four minutes all over again.

Turrets and Banshees are really the only enemies you have to actually worry about (not that you can't die from other things). Ravagers may seem annoying but they can be easily taken at close range with the Nova-Charge cycle.

High risk, high reward, major fun.

Modifié par TabrisAbound, 20 mars 2012 - 04:33 .

[Megakoresh]

Depends on your playstyle. I generally think Sentinel is the easiest class in the game. They are tough as hell and in SP you can actually, unlike MP, get proper guns and mods. Sentinel is really a way to go. Just take Liara and Garrus/Kaidan to every missing, you will be fine.

[DemGeth]

When I go insanity, and I don't always go insanity.....I choose to go Adept.

[Dark83]

Gaidren wrote...

Fair enough, in other words it can play like an Adept in every way that counts and has Overload to cover shields (Adepts are kind of reliant on taking Energy Drain as their bonus power to cover that).  It isn't like anybody is forcing you to put points into Tech Armor if you use Sentinel.

Is it really necessary to take Energy Drain? Warp/Throw spams fast enough, both with a +50% to detonations. Should take the shield down in a few casts, and you're constantly staggering them while it's happening.