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[KBomb]

Thane's death isn't what upset me about the romance. I fully expected him to die and I thought his death was handled pretty well. To me it was the reaction of Shepard. You just watched the man you love die and the emotion of it was barely recognized. I wasn't expecting her to throw herself on his dead body and wail like a banshee, but a little distinction between a friendship death and a romance death would have been nice.


Also, the thing Jacob  was so absurd that it bordered hilarious. First of all, it was completely against his character to do that. Secondly, it was like a high-school 90210 skit when his baby mama got in Shepard's face and was like, “Jacob is with me now!” Then later on he tells you that he is sorry, but he just couldn't wait “forever” for you. Obviously, six months is too long to wait for the woman you love to get out of military detention. If Bioware was going to use such a juvenile story-line, then they should have given us a juvenile renegade interrupt to kick his balls up to his chin.

Modifié par KBomb, 11 mars 2012 - 10:49 .

[N3vDawg]

Chief Martini wrote...

Liara's was ****ing amazing. Great scenes and interactions. Only thing I would've changed was the constant failure in not changing up some non-romance dialogue up to romance dialogue. For instance, she calls you a 'friend' a few times.

Lovers will sometimes refer to each as their best friends.

Modifié par N3vDawg, 11 mars 2012 - 10:47 .

[Kitten Tactics]

I feel very spoiled, having gone with Liara since ME1.

[Raizo]

PostNoBills wrote...

I don't suppose I'll much argument when I say that relationships are VERY disappointing in ME3.  Particularly in the case of Jack and Miranda, who are practically non-existent in ME3.

Here's what I would have done:

• Removed Garus from the permanent team (or I suppose Liara, but Garus was on the M2 team and Liara not - also Garus's powers are similar to Ashley and Vega).[/i]

[i][Didn't mean for this to be a "remove Garus" thread, which for reasons unknown seems to be what some people are focusing on.  "Keep Garus and add an additional team member" would also work fine.  Or drop Vega - who seems pretty pointless - and add a team member.]

• Added the relationship choice of ME2 (which may be Garus) as a permanent team member, adding appropriate content on the Normandy to keep things interesting.
• Left the Tali / Jack / Miranda / Jacob / Thane related missions unchanged for people who didn't take them as a relationship, and giving Garus equivalent content.

Relationships are such an important part of the game, to consign them to irrelevance so completely is an utterly bizarre decision on the part of the part of BioWare's ME3 design team.

Surprised that you singled out Jack and Miranda ( not that I'm complaining, I'm a massive Miranda fan and I would gladly kill for more of her in ME3 ) but from what I hear Jack and Miranda have it alot better Thane and Jacob both in terms of thier romances as well as there general on screen time.

Having said that I do agree that the ME2 romances ( excluding Garrus and Tali ) got the short straw on in ME3. It is blatant favouritism and I can't understand how the writers would hav ethought that the fans woukld have been happy with what little screen time these characters got, contributed to the ME3 story arc and how thier romances played out ( or in Jacob's case does not play out at all ).

[WizenSlinky0]

Squad dialogue in general was far too small. I'm pretty sure the crew talked with each other more than they talked to Shepard. Talk about making the player feel alone in the war, eh?

But despite the short lengths the quality of some of the romances was top notch. Tali's, while short, was extremely satisfying for me. I really don't get why some of them just fall...so...so...short. It's strange.

Honestly though the ME2 characters pretty much got shafted all around. They were either killed, left you, or given extremely small interaction with Shepard. Though I will say I found mordin's, thane, and grunts scenes really satisfying. Complete bad-asses.

[silentfall]

Militarized wrote...

I will also say, remove that dumb ass jar head Vega instead of Garrus... Garrus is my bro.

Not possible because it's possible for Garrus and Tali to die in the suicide mission, and the VS can die during the Citadel mission (and is also absent for the first part of the game while they're in the hospital anyways), in which case the player would be left with only EDI and Liara as squadmates if they don't buy any DLC characters.  Since EDI is Tech and Liara is Biotic, they needed a Combat character that was guaranteed to be on the ship no matter what happens in the player's previous playthroughs in order to balance out the squad.

[ladyvader]

silentfall wrote...

Militarized wrote...

I will also say, remove that dumb ass jar head Vega instead of Garrus... Garrus is my bro.

Not possible because it's possible for Garrus and Tali to die in the suicide mission, and the VS can die during the Citadel mission (and is also absent for the first part of the game while they're in the hospital anyways), in which case the player would be left with only EDI and Liara as squadmates if they don't buy any DLC characters.  Since EDI is Tech and Liara is Biotic, they needed a Combat character that was guaranteed to be on the ship no matter what happens in the player's previous playthroughs in order to balance out the squad.

Playing as a soldier in the 1st run, I had to use EDI because I didn't have an engineer in the squad.  Mordin and Tali were KIA during SM.  They had to account for that in order to give you a well rounded squad.  I actually liked EDI.  She didn't die on me as much as Liara did.  :pinched:

[lyssalu]

for people whose romantic content was extremely lacking, there were few good moments in this game

a lot of the brightness came from the support given to shepard by the priority LIs and the people who romanced these characters had a vastly different experience in terms of quality from the ones who stuck to their ME2 LIs

jacob and thane romancers can't even get the paramour achievement

[CrownRoyalBoi]

I FEEL THE SAME WAY AS YOU ALL DO I WAS A MIRANDA LOVER THOUGH AND I FEEL DISRESPECTED BY BIOWARE FOR NOT EVEN HAVING HER IN THE MAIN STORY AT ALL YOU DO A MISSION FOR HER AND SHE DOESNT EVEN GET TO BE IN YOUR SQUAD IN ME2 SHE WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT CHARACTER BESIDE SHEPARD JUST BECAUSE OF HER ROLE BUT I FEEL THAT BIOWARE ONLY CARED ABOUT ASH AND LIARA THE MOST WHEN IT CAME TO ROMANCE BUT YOU STILL COULDMT CONVERSATE WITH THEM THAT MUCH ON THE NORMANDY WHICH YOU COULD IN ME2.... ON THAT NOTE BIOWARE NEEDS TO FIX THIS SOMEHOW ION CARE HOW THEY DO IT JUST ****ING DO IT!!! BECAUSE THIS IS VERY SAD... TEAM LAWBRINGER

[LadyofRivendell]

 That's unfortunate to hear that non-squaddie romances got shafted  I'll just say that I found Kaidan's romance arc to be nothing short of amazing in pretty much every aspect.

[Apathy1989]

 Wait what? I romanced tali, so when she joined I assumed it was entirely because I romanced her. I then assumed everyone else would get their LI as a squadmate. Is this not true?! 

That pretty much means unless you romanced Kaiden/Ash, Liara, Tali or Garrus, its a pretty empty continuation.

[Oswin]

I romanced Thane and just got to the end of his romance today. Needless to say I'm not too thrilled. Although most of me had decided his disease would take him, there was that small part of my that still hoped...
That was quickly crushed as my heart broken into pieces ;_;

But what really annoyed me about the whole romance business with Thane was that it got no recognition from anyone :/ after he died I talked to everyone on the Normandy and no one mentioned him at all. I was hoping someone would maybe show up with some booze and a shoulder to cry on, but nothing. All I get is a name on the board that I sadly stare at whenever I pass it. I show remorse, even if my Shepard is off flirting with everyone like nothing happened
Then, to hurt me further, while Thane had barely been dead for 10 minutes in my time, all the romance options for ME3 started hitting on my Shepard. I wanted her to yell at them all for being insensitive but it was once again all very 'Thane who?'

Although, after reading about what happens with Jacob I feel a lot less bad about Thane :/ damn, that LI story had to sting.

[ladyvader]

lyssalu wrote...

for people whose romantic content was extremely lacking, there were few good moments in this game

a lot of the brightness came from the support given to shepard by the priority LIs and the people who romanced these characters had a vastly different experience in terms of quality from the ones who stuck to their ME2 LIs

jacob and thane romancers can't even get the paramour achievement

Jacob isn't a romance in ME3 and Thane dies before you can get to that point in the game.  Which for his character is very fitting and if people are that upset by it then they are not thinking clearly.  You knew he had less than a year to live.  Shepard was on Earth for six months.  Thane could have easily died during that time.

I romanced Liara and was very very content and happy with the romance with her.  You can tell through out the entire game how much Shepard and Liara love each other.  I have not done any of my other Sheps that are not with Liara.  I'm still debating with myself on which Shepard to import next.  

[KingNothing125]

They clearly have some DLC ideas in the works... I wonder if they will add some stuff re: the surviving ME2 cast... the way LotSB lets you continue your Liara romance. It would be neat to see some more Jack missions where we can get more than a punch and a kiss

[hchadw]

I feel ya EvilChani.... I myself feel they spent important resources on the broken Multiplayer side of this and took it from the singleplayer.. I was scared this would happen... as it always does when a great singleplayer tries to make the Leap of Faith into multiplayer. Im let down at the fact you cant type in multiplayer. Cant mute obnoxious players... The buddy system is horrible. Cant add people in game... have to come to this forum to look for people....

We got some Shotty Endings.
Broken Relationships.
Some of the return actors sounded like they where using Recycled Lines from ME2 thrown together to sound like a sentence.
Planet Scanning is broke unless you use the default key .. exit game and come back in.

To me the First 2 MassEffects is what even makes this 3rd one worth playing. Overall its great. but man they really used up great development time on this crappy Co-Op Multiplayer.... Would have been better if they made it where we could fight Human Vs Human like in OTHER multiplayer games for Control over areas of the Galaxy after the Reaper War... That would have made more sense ...

But to me... seems they are more interested in getting people to spend money/MS points/ Bioware points to buy Useless Multiplayer Items.... I WILL NOT pay for that. Only Story Based DLC....other than that... Games done... finishing my Endings and if i wanna shoot Something in Multiplayer i will do it in a Game thats Designed for that... like BF3

[jeweledleah]

Chief Martini wrote...

Liara's was ****ing amazing. Great scenes and interactions. Only thing I would've changed was the constant failure in not changing up some non-romance dialogue up to romance dialogue. For instance, she calls you a 'friend' a few times.

its not only liara.  at least 90% of the dialogue is identical for romance vs non romance.

Modifié par jeweledleah, 13 mars 2012 - 11:56 .

[lyssalu]

ladyvader wrote...

lyssalu wrote...

for people whose romantic content was extremely lacking, there were few good moments in this game

a lot of the brightness came from the support given to shepard by the priority LIs and the people who romanced these characters had a vastly different experience in terms of quality from the ones who stuck to their ME2 LIs

jacob and thane romancers can't even get the paramour achievement

Jacob isn't a romance in ME3 and Thane dies before you can get to that point in the game.  Which for his character is very fitting and if people are that upset by it then they are not thinking clearly.  You knew he had less than a year to live.  Shepard was on Earth for six months.  Thane could have easily died during that time.

I romanced Liara and was very very content and happy with the romance with her.  You can tell through out the entire game how much Shepard and Liara love each other.  I have not done any of my other Sheps that are not with Liara.  I'm still debating with myself on which Shepard to import next.  

that's the point -- thane and jacob got ****ed for no reason.  there's no paramour achievement because they got screwed

and try reading the thread a little, dude -- you've no way of knowing this due to being outside of the thane fandom, but we were teased countless times with the possibility of a cure or an extension to his life and never got it.  in lotsb, we were shown that he was eligible for a lung transplant that would extend his life.  we were shown his death letter, presumably because it wouldn't be coming up later.  through the news network, there was a story about how the hanar had discovered lung healing medigel.  they even did a "cure thane" initiative on facebook and hung up a cure thane banner in their office.

u dont kno nothin

[Emzamination]

Jacob's a punk like his old man who will always die in every one of my future me2 playthroughs like his old man.A REAL man who loved his woman wouldn't sit on his hands for 6 months while the woman he claimed to love was imprisoned and interrorgated by the alliance.A REAL man would've stormed that prison with guns blazing, the alliance and some jar head gorilla guard on steroids be damned.

[DirgeSinger]

silentfall wrote...

Militarized wrote...

I will also say, remove that dumb ass jar head Vega instead of Garrus... Garrus is my bro.

Not possible because it's possible for Garrus and Tali to die in the suicide mission, and the VS can die during the Citadel mission (and is also absent for the first part of the game while they're in the hospital anyways), in which case the player would be left with only EDI and Liara as squadmates if they don't buy any DLC characters.  Since EDI is Tech and Liara is Biotic, they needed a Combat character that was guaranteed to be on the ship no matter what happens in the player's previous playthroughs in order to balance out the squad.

People actually lost squad members on that mission?

I had to go back and replay the whole game to see those endings, purposefully making terrible choices in order to see those.

Definitely should have let Shepards who can't manage talent on their team enough to do the loyalty mission take what they get instead of doing damage to the third game over it...

[zRz Tyr]

Thats why you have your imagination son! Just imagine you had the perfect relationship in the story! *Looks away in a dreamful manner* Oh yes.... Wrex..... oh yes right there... oh hey grunt you wanna jo.... STOP READING THIS, YOU PERVERTS!!!! GODAMMIT CANT YOU HAVE SOME PRIVACY THESE DAYS!??!!?

[gearseffect]

The lack of support and vocal protesting of the promised Samara romance/LI continuation in this thread is sickening, as is the amount of people saying that Jacob and Thane got what they deserved deal with it and move on. I say screw you go run along and be happy with Liara or whomever don't tell us to accept the sh!ty end of the deal for BW giving us false hope for Samara, Thane, and Kelly and screwing up Jacob badly.

[BobZilla84]

I am dissapointed with the Romance's in this game the best ones are Liara,Garrus,Tali & Kaiden and the rest including Ashley's were in my opinion bad and as a fan of most of the options I am a little unsettled in regards to this issue because the Romances are a key element in the Mass Effect Franchise.

To be completely honest I think this game needed another 6 months of time spent making it into the grand finale that it should have been and not the really hollow game it is now Bioware has got to focus on fixing this game because sadly in my opinion as it stands the game is sorely lacking.

The thing is that all in all Mass Effect 3 is a rushed game and thats not cool Bioware you shouldn't rush out one of you main IP's thats all I am saying.

[Yoshiyuki Ly]

gearseffect wrote...

The lack of support and vocal protesting of the promised Samara romance/LI continuation in this thread is sickening, as is the amount of people saying that Jacob and Thane got what they deserved deal with it and move on. I say screw you go run along and be happy with Liara or whomever don't tell us to accept the sh!ty end of the deal for BW giving us false hope for Samara, Thane, and Kelly and screwing up Jacob badly.

When on earth were we promised a Samara romance? Samara says excplicitly that she does not wish to pursue any sort of relationship. It's not against the Code, I know. But if you know Samara well enough, you know that when she says she will or will not do something, she means it.

[Wahukeza]

I believe more Samara LI content, or at least a proper conclusion, was promised by one of the writers in a tweet.