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[Emryc]

First of all, we're all humans. There's nothing wrong with being either a roleplayer or a powergamer. If there's any reason for this discussion to derail and crash, please be civilized enough to pull the brake before it does.

So, as the title explicitly asks: are you a roleplayer or a powergamer when you play Dragon Age? A roleplayer usually tries to create a persona and plays that persona more or less consistently. This means making 'bad' (from a game technical point of view) decisions during dialogue, not optimizing your party by taking 'weaker' partymembers with you if it fits the roleplaying aspect, etc.

A powergamer tends to make his/her decisions from a more distant point of view. The game remains more a game to be beaten, 'broken' and vanquished. He/she tries to create the best possible character, make the best possible dialogue choices and forms the best possible party as the situation demands.

Of course, there's no such polarity as I sketched here, but let's take it for the sake of argument. Are you more of a roleplayer or a powergamer? Or, because of the multiple shades of grey that exist between black and white: somewhere in between?


I myself, as the OP should always start, am more of a roleplayer. I do not always take the optimal choices. I start to immerse myself into the world and more specifically: the character. Every once in a while this immersion breaks because there's no option that would truly fit the character, but all in all, I roleplay more or less consistent. This modus operandi 'forces' me to not use an optimal party. But that's part of the fun.

So, where do you stand?

[PhantoMSouljaX]

I usually "powergame" my way through a new game my first time through,after i get a grasp on the gameplay and atmosphere i turn to roleplay for my future playthroughs.


EDIT:and i roleplay for about the same reasons as the OP stated.

Modifié par PhantoMSouljaX, 27 novembre 2009 - 10:41 .

[Selvec_Darkon]

Roleplayer. I'm from the NWN multiplayer community & play a number of PnP games, including D&D 3.5 & World of Darkness. I can't ever see myself playing games just to win. The very idea takes the enjoyment and replayability out of a game. The concept just astounds me when someone makes a character just to "Be the best at everything".

[Angeljoe]

I felt the lack of personal character developement detracting from an overall RP perspective, thus I´ve played DAO more like watching a movie and making a few decisions here and there. But I definately dont powergame ... so it´s actually been neither with DAO, for me its more like an interactive story.

[Jonfon_ire]

I'm somewhere in between. I've picked my companions for both their roleplaying potential (and sarcastic comments) and synergy with each other, I'm doing the quests in the order which makes sense for me and my team but I'll certainly attempt to min/max their stats and pick talents and spells which help define their roles within the team.



Option-wise my character plays in character as a Elven Circle Mage. I've made choices which make sense for him rather than for which choices might work out best in the future, even if it annoys some of my companions. But he'll try and argue those choices logically rather than using the more aggressive conversation choices (which again might annoy them further but thems the breaks). If there's tension between myself and other characters thanks to my choices thats a good thing IMO.

[Silensfurtim]

every first playthrough of every origin - role-player. nexy playthroughs - a little bit of powergamer. sometimes you just want to find out the best builds and all.

[AndrewN]

Roleplayer.



I see no point in powergaming a single player game, its (a bit) like cheating at solitare. In a MMO when you need to be useful with a pile of others who do powergame then you need to but here, just enjoy the game.



Although I will admit, getting to strength 38 7 levels earlier would have made life easier

[GlassRain]

I make RP choices while maximizing the efficiency of my character via stat and skill choices.. not sure what that makes me :/

[ComTrav]

A little of both. I roleplay major plot decisions, but I do avoid doing things that will screw me over. (It might be satisfying to kill Wynne one of these days, but her heals are so delicious!)

[Gecon]

Powergamer.



I like story, but I also love exploring rulesets and archieving maximum power possible.

[Aeshyn Stormsinger]

I'm not sure which I sway towards the most. I like to partake in the roleplayer side of things by bringing people whose company I enjoy (Leliana, Alistair, Wynne), interacting with them on a frequent basis, and I like to do a fair amount of side-quests when I feel up to it (85% of the time). But I also like to make sure my party members are as efficient as possible (best armor I have being worn, good spells I like working with, etc) , but none of the whole calculations, collecting data and over-analysing move combos and such. I don't take combat and such all the seriously, but I do like to be efficient, just not... power hungry and over-analytical. Guess I'll say I'm a mixture of heavy roleplayer and light powergamer - think that's fitting?

[Acidyl]

I take my time for things I enjoy in life, and rush things I don't like.



Since I love DA:O, I'm now still on my first run, doing the third of four main story missions, and now around 40 hours played.



I can't really see how you can enjoy DA if you powergame through, it's not exactly the most complex, deep gameplay there's out there (thank you, consoles .... *sigh*)

[FedericoV]

"Roleplayer" is an ambiguos term. Some think that roleplaying is simply playing a "role", ie a class, in a party. Other think that roleplay does require some sort of acting and partecipation. Other think that it's playing a charachter in a story respecting the believes and personality of such given charachter.



There are many kind of roleplaying. I tried most of them. It's hard, if not impossible, to isolate what is the "pure" form of roleplaying. The creators of modern roleplaying games, Gygax and Arneson, have different opinions about the term and dispute about it till their last days.



In general, I do not believe that PC game allows a lot of "pure" roleplaying. It's a limit of the technology. And I do not think that players approaches makes a lot of difference. At the end it's the game that sets the limits of what you can do or not, whatever you build with your imagination.



But imho, CRPG are naturally oriented toward various mixes of powergaming and storytelling. Most of the players are happy when games have a nice mix between those two aspects. Me too .

[Mordaedil]

I favor roleplay, but I like to sprinkle it with some powergaming tendencies.



I really like to sometimes get a concept and follow that through while avoiding getting crap abilities and focus on the good ones while still staying true to my concept and I avoid going outside my concept just to grab an ability "just because".



That said, if you include that ability into concept to begin with, it's fully possible.

[Deviija]

Definitely roleplay for me.  I like watching my characters do what they will on my screen.  Kind of like watching a movie or reading a book, seeing what they will do next, what failures they go through, mistakes made, triumphs lived, etc.  I really don't come from a point of metagame or powergaming.  

Heck, I prefer what clothes/armor looks good on characters and what I believe they'd wear over stats.  

Modifié par Deviija, 27 novembre 2009 - 11:56 .

[Mork_ba]

I usually RP my first playthrough where I can make mistakes regarding the build, while there's no mistaking the moral choices etc, but on subsequent ones I like to mix role play and powergaming. In some games that I have time to I powergame a few heroes to the max of their potential(Have finished BG2 solo on hardest 5 times till now with 3 sorcerers, 1 wizard and 1 swashbuckler, and had both morrowind and oblivion heroes with maxed stats) but only if I happen to have time during that in the game.

[PhantoMSouljaX]

Acidyl wrote...

I take my time for things I enjoy in life, and rush things I don't like.

Since I love DA:O, I'm now still on my first run, doing the third of four main story missions, and now around 40 hours played.

I can't really see how you can enjoy DA if you powergame through, it's not exactly the most complex, deep gameplay there's out there (thank you, consoles .... *sigh*)

Lmao,i always find it funny when a PC elitist says "this game could of been better!,thank you consoles!"As if the consoles got together one day and said hey guys lets ruin PC gamers lives and make developers port all there good games to us.....it had to be the consoles decision to make ports because there is noway pc gamers could use reasoning and understand developers make that decision...

Modifié par PhantoMSouljaX, 29 novembre 2009 - 08:57 .

[Jsmith0730]

 I only roleplay insofar as I can dependent upon my current dialog options vs. the general 'personality' I've decided upon for my MC. 

IE: My Dwarf Commoner has a heart of gold, but he'll kick you in the face if you're being an unreasonable jerk.

The only problem I have is that I can often spend the majority of my time playing just reloading for different dialog options. Sometimes a much more appropriate answer is hidden behind one that isn't my first choice, but seeing the follow-up dialog can often give me a better idea of the tone of the original sentence.

Modifié par Jsmith0730, 29 novembre 2009 - 09:05 .

[Derengard]

I'm more of a powergamer. I don't have a set preconception of my character although I mostly stick to one alignment based on the optimal outcome and a 'good' character. I mostly decide about everything on the spot, although in that instant I might very well have a more general idea about the character I'm playing.

In dialogs I try to be sure of no misunderstandings or unexpected reactions and therefore I often reload after an attempt that felt suboptimal. When I'm talking to party members, for example, it's never clear if they react positively to positive remark, or it would have been better to be more scrutinising in one instance. Or there are sometimes minor misunderstandings when I took something for a neutral remark but the writer/designer intended it to be more critical, with an attitude that might not have been obvious in the words alone.

Modifié par Derengard, 29 novembre 2009 - 09:11 .

[F-C]

i guess im a hybrid. i will choose the group and story choices i want to play, regardless if they are the best or not, but on the other hand i will try to make them the best they can be within those choices.

Modifié par F-C, 29 novembre 2009 - 09:16 .

[LadyRae9]

I do a little of both. I role play where possible, including picking companions based on 'romances' (including ones I only have in my head). I also play on easy in order to make that possible.

[mufuti7]

I have a very hard time identifying with a virtual character I am controlling with my keyboard and mouse, computer games are no pen & paper...
Where in actual roleplaying there is always someone who can react to your actions and weave the story accordingly and dynamically, in computer games there may be more than 1 outcome but all of them are preconfigured and, sadly, being an a*-hole usually does not pay off so in the end you only have 1 "good" dialogue choice most of the time, not talking about moral here but about gameplay.

I
would not describe myself as a powergamer either but I am trying to
build my character as strong as he could possibly get. I am not making dialogue choices based on what he would say but what I want to have him say and what I am most interested in to hear. I am not taking along the most powerful companions or those most true to the RP background of my character. I take those I enjoy the most for both their character and combat abilities.

I have a hard time seeing myself as either powergamer/roleplayer. In the end I am just a guy playing a game trying to have fun and getting the most out of it. This usually means for me identifying with my character allright, but I am making the choices, not him. Because I am playing the game and I want to experience it. My player character is just a marionette to allow me to walk through the gameworld[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/smile.png[/smilie]

[zeejay21]

I'll make an option C - balanced. I want my character to truly have a persona of their own while outfitting them with the best defense and offense. I take plot specific characters for quests and using tanks and mages for usual battles.



Dialogue choices are also considered. Sometimes, I choose choices that can benefit me, sometimes just for amusement eg. agreeing to help a bad guy at the first, only to return and say, "On second thought, just gimme all your gold and let me kill you. Trust me, it'll be quick and painless."



It makes the game much more alive and fun.