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[I_Jedi]

Villion wrote...

Well I'm pretty sure the Bioware/EA PR team are coming up with something to calm the masses, and stop the horror stories of the mass effect 3 endings..

I predict more wikipedia page raids.

[Villy]

Teddie Sage wrote...

Believe what you want, but 97% of the members think otherwise.

doesn't mean they're right.

[novaseeker]

izmirtheastarach wrote...

 

novaseeker wrote...

Absolutely -- this is now what I think about it as well.  The Reapers have been trying to indoctrinate Shepard during all of ME3 -- the "dreams" he has with the boy are part of the indocrination (common per the codex description of indoctrination), as is the "ghost" image at the end (also noted in the codex as a common aspect of indoctrination).  If you listen closely to the "boy", you can hear both Mark Meer and Jennifer Hale's voices underlaying the "boy's" voice. The "boy" is not the "creator" -- he is the voice of Harbinger inside Shepard's head, and he is trying to get Shepard to pick anything other than the "destroy" option, because everything else preserves the Reapers.  If Shepard picks one of the other options, he is basically agreeing to use the crucible's power in a way that benefits the Reapers, rather than using it for its intended purpose of destroying them.  This is also why the only ending that offers the view of a potentially alive Shepard afterwards is the destruction option -- in the other two options, the Reapers "win" by indoctrinating Shepard and by avoiding their own destruction.  Shepard's choice in this mental battle with Harbinger decides how the crucible is used -- not a control panel, but Shepard himself -- he is the "shepherd", the one who brings together not only the races and species of the galaxy, but most of the Reapers and the Citadel as well -- he brings them together to meet the crucible, and his decision in that mental battle with Harbinger determines how the crucible's power is used -- only Shepard can do that, and he doesn't need a console to do it.  The impacts of what happens in that mental battle are real, not hallucinated, with respect to Shepard and the Reapers.  It's likely that what happens with Normandy and crew is simply a death vision/hallucination that takes place after Harbinger's indoctrination succeeds or fails.

 

This is why there is no final confrontation with Harbinger. Because it's happens in Shepard's mind, and Harbinger is more insidious then we ever gave him credit for. He takes the form of the child so Shepard will not realize what is actually happening.

Right.  It's very odd that the normally chatty Harbinger is MIA during most of ME3.  Well ... he's busy inside Shepard's mind.  That confrontation is the final boss battle -- the battle over whether Harbinger's long attempt to indoctrinate Shepard will succeed or not, ultimately.  It's actually quite clever, I think, as an ending.

[PsychoWARD23]

Adamantium93 wrote...

Believing that it was a hallucination is preferable to believing that those crappy endings actually happened.

and we're done

[CaptainRegor]

Militarized wrote...

I mean... it's literally us screaming this -

As I've stated before.

It may end up being a self-fulfilling prophecy and one that i'd readily accept.

So true FIXITFIXITFIXIT

[CaptainRegor]

izmirtheastarach wrote...

I'm okay with Shepard and Anderson reaching the Citadel, dealing with TiM, and sitting next to each other. Everything after that is the halucination, as far as I am concerned. The Crucible destroys the Reapers, and Shepard dies right there.

Argreed!

[Gunzwei]

@OP

When the human mind is presented with a bunch of nonsense it tries to rationalize it some way that it can understand it. Even if the game had no kid or dreams people would still probably conclude that the ending was a hallucination because of how bad it is.

[Villy]

Gunzwei wrote...

@OP

When the human mind is presented with a bunch of nonsense it tries to rationalize it some way that it can understand it. Even if the game had no kid or dreams people would still probably conclude that the ending was a hallucination because of how bad it is.

Exactly..

[Drake_1000]

Villion wrote...

Gunzwei wrote...

@OP

When the human mind is presented with a bunch of nonsense it tries to rationalize it some way that it can understand it. Even if the game had no kid or dreams people would still probably conclude that the ending was a hallucination because of how bad it is.

Exactly..

This.

[suusuuu]

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