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[upsettingshorts]

Nobrandminda wrote...

The Mass Effect trilogy has become a "Shoot the shaggy dog" story. Look it up on Tvtropes.

http://tvtropes.org/...ootTheShaggyDog

You can protest that "it's not the destination, it's the journey," but that only works if you can look back at the journey and say that something meaningful was gained. Nothing was. All of those struggles and decisions really were for nothing.

I read it.  Trope doesn't apply because Shepard stops the cycle of extinction.

If in all the endings the Reapers won and the cycle began itself anew to recur in 50,000 years, then yes it would qualify.

That the galaxy is in a huge mess for the short and medium term is the price that everyone paid to put a stop to said cycle.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 11 mars 2012 - 09:35 .

[Atraiyu Wrynn]

simfamSP wrote...

Really, I didn't like the ending. Plain and simple. They weren't satisfying. But why does a great game get torn inside out because of it? Of course, the ending has the biggest influence on us because it's the last thing we see and so it stays on our minds, but the joruney to get there was absolutley fantastic!

ME3 wasn't some rushed, unpolished, badly written (well some lines are) poor excuse for a game. The endings are sure, but hell that doesn't take away from the fact that it was: overall, a bloody good game.

It's a shame that BioWare are getting a tonne of crap because of it.

Again, Imagine you are having a great day.  Everything is turning up you.  Late in the evening you are on the way home and you get shot.  When anyone asks you about your day, what's the first thing you tell them?  "I WAS FREAKING SHOT!"  You don't talk about how good breakfast was.

[DTKT]

If the end of a story is bad enough, it makes you wonder why you played through it in the first time. Mass Effect has always been about seeing how your decisions influenced the story. Since the ending makes every single decision irrelevant, it does make me wonder why they even tried to end it that way.

[ArcanistLibram]

The Odyssey is the greatest journey in Western literature because Odysseus makes it back home.

[Kloborgg711]

Why? Maybe I can't fully explain. All I know is that if I load up ME1, ME2, or ME3, I instantly get this unflinching "what's the point?" feeling. I can tell you that it's not a choice, and it's not some juvenile tantrum I'm having to get people to pay attention, it's a very real and depressing side effect, that I'm no longer able to enjoy my favorite games.

[Sorayai]

DadeLeviathan wrote...

connordavisj wrote...

Because it devalued the entire journey. From the moment you created your Shepard, he/she is destined to die with NO actual variation what so ever.

Five years were ruined in 10 minutes.

QFT.

It's the equivilant of ending LOTR with Frodo Jumping into Mount Doom and Sauron's tower collapsing, killing everybody in the army including all the heroes, and then having everbody who survived being magically teleported to early 1500s New York City and finding out that the whole story was told by some old grandpa in 1960 to his children. 

lol couldnt have said it better myself...

[Nobrandminda]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Nobrandminda wrote...

The Mass Effect trilogy has become a "Shoot the shaggy dog" story. Look it up on Tvtropes.

http://tvtropes.org/...ootTheShaggyDog

You can protest that "it's not the destination, it's the journey," but that only works if you can look back at the journey and say that something meaningful was gained. Nothing was. All of those struggles and decisions really were for nothing.

I read it.  Trope doesn't apply because Shepard stops the cycle of extinction.

If in all the endings the Reapers won and the cycle began itself anew to recur in 50,000 years, then yes it would qualify.

That the galaxy is in a huge mess for the short and medium term is the price that everyone paid to put a stop to said cycle.

Alright, so maybe calling it a shoot the shaggy dog story is a little too harsh, but the ending still hit me like a punch in the gut.

[jbauck]

If it's the journey, not the destination ... why fight the Reapers?

A multi-species galactic civilization with access to mass effect technology and relays is enriched culturally by interacting with each other and economically by trade and plentiful planets to colonize. They have a rich "journey" experience, but the "destination" is getting harvested by the Reapers every 50k years to make way for the next galactic civilization's journey.

Y'know, the whole journey/destination thing is supposed to be a metaphor for life. Sure, life inevitably ends in death, but it's still worth living, because of all the experiences that you have and the lives that you touch on the way. Using this profound statement about the nature of existence to justify a crappy ending is, in and of itself, an admission that the crappy ending being justified sucks within its own framework in the same way that it sucks that we're all going to die someday.

[jcmccorm]

simfamSP wrote...
Really, I didn't like the ending. Plain and simple. They weren't satisfying. But why does a great game get torn inside out because of it? Of course, the ending has the biggest influence on us because it's the last thing we see and so it stays on our minds, but the joruney to get there was absolutley fantastic!

It's a shame that BioWare are getting a tonne of crap because of it.

"Hey, Suzie. Why don't you like Steve? He is a great guy. I know you all had a fantastic time you went out for dinner and a night at the club. Just because your evening ended in an unfortunate date-rape doesn't mean that you didn't have a good time before all that! You shouldn't judge him so harshly! I mean, on the whole, you still had a great date, right?"

Modifié par jcmccorm, 11 mars 2012 - 10:22 .

[Gruzmog]

To the OP, I can't really rationalize it either, cept that it just does :S I loved the entire playtrough but have no motivation to start again. Havent even touched from ashed yet. Just been wasting time in MP, I never play MP in any game

[AlexXIV]

Because the journey had a point, a reasoning. And it was destroyed at the end. That's when you realize no matter who you were and what you did in the journey it was for nothing. You wasted your energy. It can have been the greatest journey of your life, you take nothing from it. Because in the end it doesn't even matter.