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Anyone going to re-do ME2 to make "better" decisions for ME3?(NO SPOILERS ALLOWED!)


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egorwar4 wrote...

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I would actually suggest going back to ME2 to get the choices you want and then enjoy the 98% of ME 3 that is nothing short of a masterpiece. But don't finish it.


Thanks Icemix. However, whos to say my ending wont be different to yours, as I would have made different decisions etc?  Im going in with an open mind, but at least all the negativity means im not "expecting" a return of the Jedi style ending (of course, if we forget  the ewoks and the George Lucas "special edition" changes...) ;)


Your choices unlock war assets. Depending on your amount of war assets (also your galactic readiness which is increased by multiplayer), you get certain ending options. There is little more to say without spoiling it.

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egorwar4 wrote...

Er Jeff isnt that classed as a spoiler?  If that is what happens, then cheers.:devil:

ps ive been tactful with giving nothing away for ME3 in this thread.


I do believe I went overboard with the potential spoiler deductions in my last post and I apologize. If you'd be willing to delete your quoting of me in your reply then no one else will read the post. :)

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G3rman wrote...

egorwar4 wrote...

Icemix wrote...

I would actually suggest going back to ME2 to get the choices you want and then enjoy the 98% of ME 3 that is nothing short of a masterpiece. But don't finish it.


Thanks Icemix. However, whos to say my ending wont be different to yours, as I would have made different decisions etc?  Im going in with an open mind, but at least all the negativity means im not "expecting" a return of the Jedi style ending (of course, if we forget  the ewoks and the George Lucas "special edition" changes...) ;)


We all get the same three choices as long as EMS values are high enough.

Its how you interpret the endings is where your differences will be set, as your actual choices do not affect the endings directly.


Okay, well im a real anal player, so I will ensure I have nigh on maxxed my EMS, then blast multiplayer for a few days/week or two to get the best possible outcome. However, after Jeffs post above, I forsee something "drastic happening anyway. (thanks again Jeff)

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egorwar4 wrote...

Icemix wrote...

I would actually suggest going back to ME2 to get the choices you want and then enjoy the 98% of ME 3 that is nothing short of a masterpiece. But don't finish it.


Thanks Icemix. However, whos to say my ending wont be different to yours, as I would have made different decisions etc?  Im going in with an open mind, but at least all the negativity means im not "expecting" a return of the Jedi style ending (of course, if we forget  the ewoks and the George Lucas "special edition" changes...) ;)

Me and every other person out there that has finished the game. Your decisions don't effect the ending.
Oh and don't bother with multiplayer unless you enjoy it. You will get more than enough war assets in SP. Oh and there is no "best ending" that you realy have to grind for, its all the same bull**** no matter how bad you do.

Modifié par Icemix, 11 mars 2012 - 09:35 .


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JeffZero wrote...

egorwar4 wrote...

Er Jeff isnt that classed as a spoiler?  If that is what happens, then cheers.:devil:

ps ive been tactful with giving nothing away for ME3 in this thread.


I do believe I went overboard with the potential spoiler deductions in my last post and I apologize. If you'd be willing to delete your quoting of me in your reply then no one else will read the post. :)



Ive deleted it now. No worries, I kinda figured it would be "drastic".

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My EMS was 6.3k after playing MP (Well above the highest requirement) and I saw all my endings. Unfortunate I didn't get a nice surprise I was hoping for like a best ending.

But hopefully you will interpret it as a satisfying end for your Shepard.

Modifié par G3rman, 11 mars 2012 - 09:35 .


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" then blast multiplayer for a few days/week or two to get the best possible outcome."

Just take into account that your galactic readiness decreases 3% each day.

What I did was get to the "point of no return," played MP for around 6 hours (with breaks), got galactic readiness to 100%, then went into the final act.

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Paulinius wrote...

" then blast multiplayer for a few days/week or two to get the best possible outcome."

Just take into account that your galactic readiness decreases 3% each day.

What I did was get to the "point of no return," played MP for around 6 hours (with breaks), got galactic readiness to 100%, then went into the final act.


Cool, cheers for that. I played the ME3 demo multiplayer and though it was awesome. On par, maybe even better than Gears Horde ;)

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What's the point?

This.

You kill the queen; there is another queen in her place.
You kill wrex; Wrev has the same lines.
You let the leader die; new leaders are there.

The choices you make in ME2 are the ones that have any real effect and then only for the crew members that survive; they get cameos. 

And finally, no matter what you do, how hard you work (or not) how much rep griding and multi-player grinding you do and no matter what choices you make in any game you still have the endigs are pretty much the same.

If the endings were animals, your choice is between a lama and an alpaca.  If you decide to grind the effective military strength high enough, you get a thrird choice with the guanaco!

There are people who are comparing this game to DA:2 but I don't think it is right.  DA:2 did force you into the same ending but it held my atention long enough to play all three class at least once each.  I made it through 1 new game (minimal extra quests or planet scanning; no MP) and then picked up one of old games.  The second play through was the "best ending" by a 3 game paragon shepard.  I tried to srart another saved game but the grind for rep and the declining multi-player percentage was more than I cared to put up with.  So no, there won't be any more going back to do things differently.  No more multi-player; no more MMO style grinding in a 1st person shooter disgiused as an RPG, no more having Origin on my computer (thanks for making the game so un-fun that this choice was easy to make) and no more games from EA. 

Ever.

Thank you, Bioware, for letting me see the indoctrination process clearly.  You think you are in control and are making the hard choices for the greater good, but the truth is, they already own you. Which makes me ask: was this your "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" commentary or just a coincidence?

Anyway.

Thanks for all the fish.

And no, you can't have my stuff.

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Fibonacci wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

What's the point?

This.

You kill the queen; there is another queen in her place.
You kill wrex; Wrev has the same lines.
You let the leader die; new leaders are there.

The choices you make in ME2 are the ones that have any real effect and then only for the crew members that survive; they get cameos. 

And finally, no matter what you do, how hard you work (or not) how much rep griding and multi-player grinding you do and no matter what choices you make in any game you still have the endigs are pretty much the same.

If the endings were animals, your choice is between a lama and an alpaca.  If you decide to grind the effective military strength high enough, you get a thrird choice with the guanaco!

There are people who are comparing this game to DA:2 but I don't think it is right.  DA:2 did force you into the same ending but it held my atention long enough to play all three class at least once each.  I made it through 1 new game (minimal extra quests or planet scanning; no MP) and then picked up one of old games.  The second play through was the "best ending" by a 3 game paragon shepard.  I tried to srart another saved game but the grind for rep and the declining multi-player percentage was more than I cared to put up with.  So no, there won't be any more going back to do things differently.  No more multi-player; no more MMO style grinding in a 1st person shooter disgiused as an RPG, no more having Origin on my computer (thanks for making the game so un-fun that this choice was easy to make) and no more games from EA. 

Ever.

Thank you, Bioware, for letting me see the indoctrination process clearly.  You think you are in control and are making the hard choices for the greater good, but the truth is, they already own you. Which makes me ask: was this your "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" commentary or just a coincidence?

Anyway.

Thanks for all the fish.

And no, you can't have my stuff.




Mmmm Fair rnough.

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If I ever manage to play ME1/2 again, which at this point, I have zero interest in doing after finishing ME3 (grrrr!), one thing I will do differently is NOT rewrite the Geth which I did on both playthroughs. In my imported save I also told Tali to shut up (she has always annoyed me) when she was fighting with Legion about scanning her omni-tool I will use a paragon or renegade response next time. This is the only way I will be able to save the Geth and Quarians. Aaleel is correct, in the end it makes sh!t all difference but i'd like to see how the game plays out with Geth/Quarian peace. 

This is the no spoilers forum, but I will say that I was able to achieve the best result for the Geth and Quarians even though I had rewritten the heretics in ME2.

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huntrrz wrote...
This is the no spoilers forum, but I will say that I was able to achieve the best result for the Geth and Quarians even though I had rewritten the heretics in ME2.


Oh, so it is. Oops, sorry!  I've been posting so much in the other forum I didn't even notice.  I will give a spoiler warning because I am responding to what you wrote...












I never wanted to destroy the Geth in ME2 so that sounds good to me.  I read that to get the best outcome of the situation in ME3 you need more than 5 points of something or other and those points are determined by decisions in ME2.  Rewriting the Geth gives zero to this score whilst killing them gives +2.  Using a paragon/renegade to Tali and Legion's fight gives +1.  Maybe I only need to do that one.  There was also points for Tali being welcomed back to the fleet and 0 for being exiled, she was not exiled in my game.

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I think the most important factor is how high you have built your reputation score before that mission. You get a lot of +2's and +5's throughout the game by 'supporting' characters in various arguments you overhear on the Citadel. All that adds up significantly over time.

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Is there an actual total for these points listed anywhere? I had full paragon and still could not get the best outcome. Kind of like later on speaking to a character in the final moments of the game but the paragon/renegade options were blocked. I'm sure I got all of those "support blah blah character" points. I do remember a lot of 2's though so maybe that affected it.

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Nope, because in the end I can make all the worst possible nonsensical and heartless decisions through the first two games and STILL get the same horribad endings.

It just doesn't matter. The endings ruined the ENTIRE franchise....

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I have to go back and kill that indoctrinated scientist who worked for saren--it's not about war assests to me. I just want a play through with as few people dying as possible.

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fropas wrote...

I have to go back and kill that indoctrinated scientist who worked for saren--it's not about war assests to me. I just want a play through with as few people dying as possible.


Did she do something in ME3?  I remember reading a PA file about her dying but I can't remember if it was during a mission or an email.  I don't really remember what the message said at all.  It took a few seconds for it to click with me that the message was about her.

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Game_Fan_85 wrote...

If I ever manage to play ME1/2 again, which at this point, I have zero interest in doing after finishing ME3 (grrrr!), one thing I will do differently is NOT rewrite the Geth which I did on both playthroughs. In my imported save I also told Tali to shut up (she has always annoyed me) when she was fighting with Legion about scanning her omni-tool I will use a paragon or renegade response next time. This is the only way I will be able to save the Geth and Quarians. Aaleel is correct, in the end it makes sh!t all difference but i'd like to see how the game plays out with Geth/Quarian peace.

I cried so many times during the game, especially when certain characters died but Tali throwing herself off a cliff did nothing for me. Legion dying did however


Next time use spoiler warnings, this isn't the spoiler forum you no. It does say "No ME3 Spoilers allowed" for a reason. ;)

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Game_Fan_85 wrote...

fropas wrote...

I have to go back and kill that indoctrinated scientist who worked for saren--it's not about war assests to me. I just want a play through with as few people dying as possible.


Did she do something in ME3?  I remember reading a PA file about her dying but I can't remember if it was during a mission or an email.  I don't really remember what the message said at all.  It took a few seconds for it to click with me that the message was about her.


She plants a bomb that kills five asari scientists. . .I just can't let that go. **** is dead on my next playthrough. on a positive note--Aresh (crazy guy from Pragia) saves a bus load of kids.Image IPB that's badass.

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As it stands? Unless something is changed so your actions actually have an impact on the final outcome, there's really no point to replaying either of the first two games.

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fropas wrote...

Game_Fan_85 wrote...

fropas wrote...

I have to go back and kill that indoctrinated scientist who worked for saren--it's not about war assests to me. I just want a play through with as few people dying as possible.


Did she do something in ME3?  I remember reading a PA file about her dying but I can't remember if it was during a mission or an email.  I don't really remember what the message said at all.  It took a few seconds for it to click with me that the message was about her.


She plants a bomb that kills five asari scientists. . .I just can't let that go. **** is dead on my next playthrough. on a positive note--Aresh (crazy guy from Pragia) saves a bus load of kids.Image IPB that's badass.


Yea, I liked the Aresh thing alot.  And I knew I should have killed that Asari b!tch in the first game, especially after seeing her again in ME2, up to no good still.  I also liked that I could speak to the mother and uncle from ME1 (should she keep it or get rid of it) on the Citadel this time.  They were hanging around a shop in ME2 and you could hear them talking about the kid starting school or something, but couldn't actually speak to them.  Little touches like that really pulled the 3 games together.  It's a shame BioWare killed the entire experience for me some hours later.

Modifié par Game_Fan_85, 12 mars 2012 - 11:35 .


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Having recently swapped my Xbox for a PC I've lost all my previous saves. I've started ME1 again, but to cure the itch I've started a character in ME3 as well. I must say, I can't wait to get my imports done. It makes everything so much more personal (just having played the demo with Wrex, and in the full game with Wreav).

It makes no odds in the end, but it does make it more personal along the way.

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No, it doesn't matter, why should I?

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 What's the point? It doesn't make any difference. Your choice is still die..or die...or almost die, seperated from your loved ones forever. May as well just DIE! ;)<_<

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I'm planing to eventually replay the whole series from evil femshep perspective, see the differences.