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[HighScore 2600]

 "The Reapers' goal was to find a way to stop the spread of Dark Energy which would eventually consume everything. That's why there was so much foreshadowing about Dark Energy in ME2.

The Reapers as a whole were 'nations' of people who had fused together in the most horrific way possible to help find a way to stop the spread of the Dark Energy. The real reason for the Human Reaper was supposed to be the Reapers saving throw because they had run out of time. Humanity in Mass Effect is supposedly unique because of it's genetic diversity and represented the universe's best chance at stopping Dark Energy's spread.[/b]

The original final choice was going to be "Kill the Reapers and put your faith in the races of the galaxy in finding another way to stop the spread with what little time is left" or "Sacrifice humanity, allowing them to be horrifically processed in hopes that the end result will justify the means."[/b]

The original ending actually follows events from the first and second Mass Effect games. Why this plot was thrown out is beyond me. For one it makes sense for the Reapers to have that, "bad guys thinks his actions are good", narritive and a choice that will ultimately decide the fate of the galaxy that is not based on a "lose lose" situation. 

Modifié par HighScore 2600, 11 mars 2012 - 10:11 .

[Shwiggliness]

Why was this thrown out, why? The Reapers are way better than their bull**** explanation these days

[Greed1914]

I don't get it either. We have plenty of foreshadowing for this, and it at least doesn't fly in the face of the evidence leading up to the final moments. We have seen what dark energy does to a star and can recognize this as a big enough problem that even the Reapers might be concerned. Yet somehow it was better to just go with a conflict that, at a minimum, is questionable.

[MadMatt910]

This ending woudl be close to perfect - need it back

[KleinerVance]

My god. WHY WAS THIS ENDING CUT?!

[Sharkey1337]

I heard it was their purpose to kill organics at the peak of their cycles before they created synthetics that would ultimately kill them, but having finally witnessed the ending myself, it just feels so out of context with the rest of the series. I know the original idea was the Reapers were looking for ways to stop Dark Energy from destroying the galaxy, which makes more sense for them to have such a larger scope of purpose than the shallow organics vs. synthetics.

It's just too simplestic, especially given how Sovereign told us that their purpose was beyond our comprehension. I really wish they kept to the idea of Dark Energy as it was hinted at in ME2, though maybe exanded more on why Reapers must destroy advance races and harvest them. I would've loved if it had something to do with biotic potential of species, get back to the whole Mass Effect idea introduced by the opening of ME1, tie it back to the game's title after all. Possibly the biotic/mass effect technologies help the Reapers contain the Dark Energy in the galaxy every 50,000 years as it's basically making it a crop cycle of harvesting materials/energy to protect the galaxy, while at the same time allowing the Reapers to increase their numbers to aid in the ever growing Dark Energy over the years. Something like that makes more sense in the grand scheme of things. Having the choice to destroy the Reapers, yet doom the galaxy in the long run (yet allowing everyone to enjoy their continued cycle until the galaxy is destroyed by Dark Energy), or let the cycle continue to keep the Reapers doing their "good work" in preserving the galaxy.

[Golden RAAM]

Well i guess we can thank those snorkly nerds who had to crack their betas open for leaky stuff. (Bet you that they feel really stupid now yes?) They shot themselves in their feet!

[OblivionDawn]

Seriously, why was this cut.

It's like they hired an amateur high school writing team to write the ending instead of the original, when the original was close to perfect.

[billanizer]

lol i swear the current ending contradicts itself. someone created super advanced AI (the reapers) to come every 50,000 years to destroy all organic life so they dont create AI that will wipe out all organic life. dafuq?

[Leafs43]

Maybe bioware got spiteful.

"Fine you hackers want to release our ending, fine, we will make a new ending and make it terrible! That will teach you a lesson!"

[AlCord]

I read something about a story leak in the past but I wasn't interested in reading in. I think most of the people thought so. So there was really no point to change the plot.

Although we have known the ending, we wouldn't see how the ending was presented. Sad

[WeAreLegionWTF]

the dark energy bit is the ending i'm sticking with! WAYYYYYY more mass effect , and not so much battlestar generica.

[Baryonic-Member]

I agree and the fact that the Citadel is sapient is freaking stupid and completely undermines the plot of the first game. Why have Sovereign evaluate the state of galactic civilization if the Catalst can just do it and activate the relay when the time is ripe. And since the Citadel has control of the relay network, why didn't it shut it down and isolate every system?

The fact how the crucible just casually flies in and docks in the middle of a battle with Reapers all around ignoring it is stupid.

And why did the Catalyst suddenly help Shepard destroy/control the Reapers? And why did the fact that Shepard was there prove that its solution wouldn't work anymore? If for some reason the solution would be obsolete, why didn't the Catalyst just order the Reapers to retreat or whatever (since it controls the Reapers)? Why let Shepard choose.

And if we were to assume that the Catalyst can't shut down the Mass Relay network, why didn't the Reapers invade the Citadel first and do it, like Sovereign planned in the first game? People defended the Reapers' reluctance to invade the Citadel by the fact that the council species could supposidely shut the wards and seal the station, but that wasn't a problem when the Reapers moved it above Earth.

I'm fine with a dark ending, like all the Mass Relays getting destroyed in order to destroy the Reapers, but only if it makes sense, not this Catalyst crap with no explanation on how the Crucible works. If they would have explained that it released a pulse that destroyed all Mass Effect technology (which is based on the Relays and therfore the Reapers) and that it was relayed by the Mass Relays, then that would sort of made sense. I would have forgiven BioWare for the Crucible deus ex machina purpose if the Catalyst was just removed from the story and the original dark energy would replace it. The choice should have been between destroying the Reapers and all Mass Effect technology and potentially destroying the galaxy if we can't find a solution to the dark energy problem, or join with the Reapers. That would at least have made sense (sort of).

[Hiredguns23]

billanizer wrote...

lol i swear the current ending contradicts itself. someone created super advanced AI (the reapers) to come every 50,000 years to destroy all organic life so they dont create AI that will wipe out all organic life. dafuq?

I know right! It hurt my head too when the AI told me the reason why reapers was created was to stop organics from builing synthecis to take over, and I can't help but notice that I was standing on the citidal surrounded by reapers stuffed with dead organics....

[Davnort]

it was thrown out because hackers leaked the script or something like that

[AlexXIV]

Ok it's official. Someone hacked Bioware and changed the ending with what we got. Call the cops. The home security. Defcon 1.

[Nu-Nu]

Well, that original ending doesn't make sense either. There were many cycles of 50,000 years, Imagine how advanced a civillisation could grow in that time. You telling me the first civillisation decided many cycles of 50,000 year wasn't enough time to find an alternative?

[Sywen]

but it doesn't have different colors of death

[Thoragoros]

HighScore 2600 wrote...

 "The Reapers' goal was to find a way to stop the spread of Dark Energy which would eventually consume everything. That's why there was so much foreshadowing about Dark Energy in ME2.

The Reapers as a whole were 'nations' of people who had fused together in the most horrific way possible to help find a way to stop the spread of the Dark Energy. The real reason for the Human Reaper was supposed to be the Reapers saving throw because they had run out of time. Humanity in Mass Effect is supposedly unique because of it's genetic diversity and represented the universe's best chance at stopping Dark Energy's spread.[/b]

The original final choice was going to be "Kill the Reapers and put your faith in the races of the galaxy in finding another way to stop the spread with what little time is left" or "Sacrifice humanity, allowing them to be horrifically processed in hopes that the end result will justify the means."[/b]

The original ending actually follows events from the first and second Mass Effect games. Why this plot was thrown out is beyond me. For one it makes sense for the Reapers to have that, "bad guys thinks his actions are good", narritive and a choice that will ultimately decide the fate of the galaxy that is not based on a "lose lose" situation. 

They got rid of that, and replaced it with Shephard 'chatting' the Reapers for peace via a little kid hologram?!?! WTF?

They replaced that with "We're killing you now so that synthetics don't kill you later." WTF?!?!?

[Myrmedus]

I do actually prefer the Technological Singularity motivation for the Reapers but it's true the original motivations fit better with the title of the game: the by-product of Mass Effect tech would cause a swelling of Dark Energy. One thing is for certain though: the endings needed more closure and definition than what we got, more like the original endings.

Modifié par Myrmedus, 11 mars 2012 - 11:06 .

[Kmead15]

Davnort wrote...

it was thrown out because hackers leaked the script or something like that

Leaked script contained Singularity ending, not the Dark Energy one.

[Myrmedus]

Thoragoros wrote...

HighScore 2600 wrote...

 "The Reapers' goal was to find a way to stop the spread of Dark Energy which would eventually consume everything. That's why there was so much foreshadowing about Dark Energy in ME2.

The Reapers as a whole were 'nations' of people who had fused together in the most horrific way possible to help find a way to stop the spread of the Dark Energy. The real reason for the Human Reaper was supposed to be the Reapers saving throw because they had run out of time. Humanity in Mass Effect is supposedly unique because of it's genetic diversity and represented the universe's best chance at stopping Dark Energy's spread.[/b]

The original final choice was going to be "Kill the Reapers and put your faith in the races of the galaxy in finding another way to stop the spread with what little time is left" or "Sacrifice humanity, allowing them to be horrifically processed in hopes that the end result will justify the means."[/b]

The original ending actually follows events from the first and second Mass Effect games. Why this plot was thrown out is beyond me. For one it makes sense for the Reapers to have that, "bad guys thinks his actions are good", narritive and a choice that will ultimately decide the fate of the galaxy that is not based on a "lose lose" situation. 

They got rid of that, and replaced it with Shephard 'chatting' the Reapers for peace via a little kid hologram?!?! WTF?

They replaced that with "We're killing you now so that synthetics don't kill you later." WTF?!?!?

You're thinking purely about the advanced races. I think what the Reapers were arguing is that synthetics would wipe out ALL organic life: sentient, animals, trees, planets; they have no need for these things. In addition, they would argue that organics life on just in different form.

[Holoe4]

I miss seeing the Reapers as a purely evil threat, those were the days...

[WhooMovingTarget]

It all makes sense. I was wondering why Giana Parsini didn't show up in ME3...