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[Heimdall]

I honestly had no problem with any of the endings. Partly because I had long ago come to the conclusion that creating a satisfying ending to this series would be an impossible task. So I was very open minded. The only thing that bothered me was how the synthesis ending implanted machine parts in organics and fleshy parts in machines magically, but with some suspension of disbelief, it was actually a favorite ending. The one thing I wish they had done was include epilogue slides or something so i could find out what happened to my crew.

Also, I read some people noting that the entire fleet was stranded in the Sol system. That isn't true. Interstellar travel is still possible. There were planned expeditions to Ilos even though the relay was thought lost. It just make a journey of hours become a journey of weeks or even months. The galaxy can still function, ships will just have to be built with larger fuel reserves.

[Alamandorious]

Swordfishtrombone wrote...

Man, I've been hearing so many people saying how horrible the ending is that I'm half expecting to get Rick-rolled at the end.

Guess I'll see when I get there. I already know one fact about the ending, thanks to a spoiler posted in the NO SPOILERS forum (<_<), but that can't be the extent of it, there has to be more to justify such a negative reaction. I'm witholding judgment, for now.

That's it!  You're a genius!  We've been rick-rolled, only a bug which they'll fix in the first patch cut out the proper music!

[Eirileth]

Punk4Real wrote...

Various sites have begun reporting on the general fan unrest regarding the endings!
We're finally getting some god damn attention, lets keep at it folks! 

- Digital Spy

- Destructoid

- Game Front

- Kotaku

IGN wrote about us as well, but I can't find the link. Also, don't mention Kotaku. He just... Flamed the entire fanbase that doens't like the endings.

As for myself... I have been playing Mass Effect for five years now, watching every decision I make, every relationship I forge, shape the entire universe of the games themselves. Everything I did had a consequence and affected everything else in Mass Effect. When you have that much control, you realize that you aren't playing Shepard in the ME universe... Shepard is the ME universe's version of you. You are making your way, fighting through the battles, living out the story how you want to do it. It becomes an emotional investment. Particularly with the detailed romances, which in my case were Liara. Mass Effect 1 and 2 were without a doubt the best games I have played in my life. And Mass Effect 3 had them beat up until the last five minutes. I loved EVERYTHING about Mass Effect 3 until I got to the end of the game... And that is where it fell apart. The end.

I feel empty... Dead inside at the site of what happened at the end. Everything I did, everyone I saved, the romance I had with Liara... The friendships I forged with other characters. The Paragon path I worked so hard to uphold. All of it had meaning... And then, at the end, all of that meaning was wrenched away with three endings that had nothing to do with the choices I made. I sincerely hope that BioWare listens to us and somehow fixes this situation... The endings made no sense. They gave us no closure. I was driven to tears just from the disappointment, anger and depression I felt all at once at the ending. Don't get me wrong, I cried several times during the story at appropriate parts. Everyone else that sacrificed themselves for the war... But the tears I shed at the ending were tears of rage and disappointment. The ending was... It doesn't belong in the Mass Effect trilogy.

Please, BioWare, I beg you. Fix this.

Modifié par Eirileth, 12 mars 2012 - 01:00 .

[Arthorius]

Swordfishtrombone wrote...

Man, I've been hearing so many people saying how horrible the ending is that I'm half expecting to get Rick-rolled at the end.

Guess I'll see when I get there. I already know one fact about the ending, thanks to a spoiler posted in the NO SPOILERS forum (<_<), but that can't be the extent of it, there has to be more to justify such a negative reaction. I'm witholding judgment, for now.

Being rickrolled can makes you laugh. This ending, it just leaves you empty, like a drug-addict who was about to get his fix just before being locked behind bars. 

[Drake_1000]

www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/03/10/the-problem-with-biowares-mass-effect-3-day-one-dlc-from-ashes/

&

www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/03/11/new-video-shows-mass-effect-3-day-one-dlc-already-on-disc/

also more on the issues of ME3 (2nd link is more of the author trying figure out what's going on)

www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/03/08/whats-behind-the-puzzling-vendetta-against-bioware-and-mass-effect-3/

[Zeju]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

Zeju wrote...

Then simply call me paranoid. And I can take my paranoia happily and move on. But I make no apologies because for the people who are experiencing bugs and are not pirates/trolls then they understand why I'm concerned.

I understand your concern, but now is not the time to divide ourselves...or appear antagonistic.

We need all the help we can get, no?

True enough. My mistake.

[Trinity Shep]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

People who haven't played ME3: OH MY GOD WHAT A BUNCH OF WHINERS

People who have played ME3: HOLY BALLS THAT WAS BAD SOMEBODY FIX THIS

Exactly, anyone that hasnt finished the game, please dont think you know what your talking about! More than happy to hear your opinions once you finish it but stop calling us whiners when you dont even know what we are "whining" about!

[TSC_1]

ratzerman wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

People who haven't played ME3: OH MY GOD WHAT A BUNCH OF WHINERS

People who have played ME3: HOLY BALLS THAT WAS BAD SOMEBODY FIX THIS

I have personally witnessed this.

Man, I have personally been this.

[JeffZero]

Lord Aesir wrote...

I honestly had no problem with any of the endings. Partly because I had long ago come to the conclusion that creating a satisfying ending to this series would be an impossible task. So I was very open minded. The only thing that bothered me was how the synthesis ending implanted machine parts in organics and fleshy parts in machines magically, but with some suspension of disbelief, it was actually a favorite ending. The one thing I wish they had done was include epilogue slides or something so i could find out what happened to my crew.

Also, I read some people noting that the entire fleet was stranded in the Sol system. That isn't true. Interstellar travel is still possible. There were planned expeditions to Ilos even though the relay was thought lost. It just make a journey of hours become a journey of weeks or even months. The galaxy can still function, ships will just have to be built with larger fuel reserves.

Yes, I do believe this is important to note. This second paragraph of yours. I've mentioned that as well.

[zsom]

Urdnot Grim wrote...
No offense champ. I've finished my first playthrough. I can't register it due to some asinine problems on EA's site.

EDIT: Also Zsom, I don't see how respectfully expressing my opinion and critiquing a person's argument is "bullying". Can we please use words correctly here?

Actually I think he was referring to me. You get to have an opinion, since you agree with him

And yes, maybe bullying is a strong word, but you are trying to force BioWare to develop "your" game instead of "theirs".

[CDRSkyShepard]

JeffZero wrote...

Everyone listen to CDRSkyShepard. I'm Commander Jeff Zero and I approve of her recommendations that we must stand united.

I'm Commander Sky Shepard and JeffZero is my favorite forumite on the BSN.

[Spowis]

You think Bioware will 'pull a Shepard' on us?

[Farbautisonn]

Zeju wrote...

Not
presuming, I said I wasn't saying anything. I'm not calling you a
pirate I said the reason I wont take your opinion into account is the
possibility of piracy. Same for anyone else here.

-So you presume to speak for "anyone else" here too then? 

[JeffZero]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Everyone listen to CDRSkyShepard. I'm Commander Jeff Zero and I approve of her recommendations that we must stand united.

I'm Commander Sky Shepard and JeffZero is my favorite forumite on the BSN.

I'm good, SkyShepard. We live? We get loud and spill drinks on the...

Oh, I guess we can't... hrm... somewhere else.

[WildcardCharlie]

WildcardCharlie wrote...

What people like this Kotaku writer do not get is that comparing the ending of the Mass Effect series to the ending of a movie or a book or any other form of art is a classic case of false equivalency.

One of the main draws of this series has been the "choose your own path" selling point. We were told our decisions would make our own ending.

I believe one of the trailers for this game said the exact words "Decide How It Ends."

This is not like any other form of art where the writer is making a statement with how the story ends, we are supposed to decide how it ends through our actions in the game. Instead, we are handed an ending and told "f**k you, there's your ending."

Since my post got pushed to the back by some people arguing about some crap just gonna quote myself here...

[CDRSkyShepard]

JeffZero wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

I honestly had no problem with any of the endings. Partly because I had long ago come to the conclusion that creating a satisfying ending to this series would be an impossible task. So I was very open minded. The only thing that bothered me was how the synthesis ending implanted machine parts in organics and fleshy parts in machines magically, but with some suspension of disbelief, it was actually a favorite ending. The one thing I wish they had done was include epilogue slides or something so i could find out what happened to my crew.

Also, I read some people noting that the entire fleet was stranded in the Sol system. That isn't true. Interstellar travel is still possible. There were planned expeditions to Ilos even though the relay was thought lost. It just make a journey of hours become a journey of weeks or even months. The galaxy can still function, ships will just have to be built with larger fuel reserves.

Yes, I do believe this is important to note. This second paragraph of yours. I've mentioned that as well.

As for the second paragraph...it would take them a loooooong time to get home, even at FTL speeds. Especially the quarians, who live on the complete other side of the galaxy. Go look up the Codex if you want more information on that.

[Almostfaceman]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

Howdy Cheez, I was wondering how you felt about the ending. Haven't seen you posting in the Spoiler area - I guess you and I are on the same page with this then.

Ending sucks for various reasons and needs a do-over.  I will use the powers of headcanon and fanfic to make my own, but I'd like Bioware to make a patch/DLC/genuine apology or explanation to fix things.  ME3 was great except for those last five minutes, and those last five minutes killed the whole series for me.

Don't let anyone egg you on, if anything they're just trying to get folks mad so they can point a finger and say "look, a raging hater." Obvious troll attempts are obvious.

So obvious you're not even sure they're trolling sometimes...

Alright I'll give you that sometimes they're not obvious. I think the more level-headed we stay with this the better chance we have at folks listening to us, even if they don't agree.

I'm with you - the ending killed it for me, and if they don't take this opportunity to give us more choices at the end and an epilogue, I'm no longer a customer of Bioware.

[WildcardCharlie]

A few days ago people were accusing me of being a troll and pirate because I had no badge. It's just a crutch they use when they're losing an argument.

[CDRSkyShepard]

Zeju wrote...

True enough. My mistake.

*Pats on the back* Just take a chill pill and we'll be fine. Everyone can stand to take a chill pill, tbh. Nothing awesome ever got accomplished in a panic or by psyching out.

[aimlessgun]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

People who haven't played ME3: OH MY GOD WHAT A BUNCH OF WHINERS

People who have played ME3: HOLY BALLS THAT WAS BAD SOMEBODY FIX THIS

Haha, pretty much sums it up. You really have to see it to believe it.

[JeffZero]

Yeah, it's gonna take the quarians a long-ass time though, that's for sure.

[CDRSkyShepard]

JeffZero wrote...

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Everyone listen to CDRSkyShepard. I'm Commander Jeff Zero and I approve of her recommendations that we must stand united.

I'm Commander Sky Shepard and JeffZero is my favorite forumite on the BSN.

I'm good, SkyShepard. We live? We get loud and spill drinks on the...

Oh, I guess we can't... hrm... somewhere else.

I'm all for getting loud and spilling drinks...sounds like a party is in order. But yes, not here. XD Lol.

[CDHarrisUSF]

Swordfishtrombone wrote...

Man, I've been hearing so many people saying how horrible the ending is that I'm half expecting to get Rick-rolled at the end.

Someone needs to make that ending and put in on YouTube. It's the same ending right up until Shepard rides the magic space elevator. Then, Shepard makes the shocked face from EDI's joke right as the music starts. Cut to where space wizard should be and see Rick Astley dancing instead... bonus points for making him look like part of the scene, maybe even with the VI look. Insert "still a better ending than mass effect 3" meme. Credits.

Modifié par CDHarrisUSF, 12 mars 2012 - 01:10 .

[zsom]

FabricatedWookie wrote...
I think operations like kickstarter are calling into question these concepts. EA and Bioware owns it because they frontload the cost of making the product. However, with how much money they make with pre-orders and pre-purchases, a company's promises have a little bit more liability to them. Why is my money, which makes the whole operation possible treated differently than an investors money? Perhaps when we understand ourselves as small-scale investors who are not investing for profit but content, it doesn't seem so entitled to think hey, why not ask for a change?

You are also "financing" a book when you buy it, or a play when you  watch it. Yet you don't get to force the writer to edit the ending for you. You can't stand up in the middle of a performance and tell the actors to change the play, because you as the investor are angry.

And you are also fronting the money in both cases, since you won't read the ending of a book in a bookstore just to be sure, and you won't sneak in for the last 5 minutes of a play to inspect your investment.  Right?