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cachx wrote...

A chill just went down my spine.
What if they made an epilogue comic?


Dont see the point.

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I stand by my opinion that I hope BioWare doesn't change the endings at all. Yes, I spoiled the endings simply because of this massive s***storm. Yes, I was one of those that wanted a happy (at least a more upbeat) ending. There were creative differences between the fans and the devs (I wish it hadn't happened, but it did) and with a fanbase as passionate as this, the effect has been 10x worse.

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cachx wrote...

A chill just went down my spine.
What if they made an epilogue comic?


If the quality of the comic provided with my ME3 N7 edition is any indication... I fear for us all.

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maxulic wrote...

Wow... the amount of childishness in this "community" (?) is seriously astounding :o

People who can't see that the 3 endings have a scope larger than what they demand like a happy ending with Shepard and Miss (or Mr.) Shepard and their kids and their friends living in a wonderful world. The fact is that, quoting the Illusive Man, this is not about Shepard or anyone else, it's about things so much bigger than all of them.

The endings are true sci-fi, it's like reading Arthur C. Clarke or Asimov. Not the garbage that you demand.


Your first mistake was assuming everyone wanted a "happy" ending.

Your second was assuming that there was any choice during the endings. They all played almost the exact same way - the only thing different was the colour of the lights.

Your third was assuming this was "true sci-fi" - if anything, it introduced an unneeded philosophical element at the eleventh hour.

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

maxulic wrote...

Wow... the amount of childishness in this "community" (?) is seriously astounding :o

People who can't see that the 3 endings have a scope larger than what they demand like a happy ending with Shepard and Miss (or Mr.) Shepard and their kids and their friends living in a wonderful world. The fact is that, quoting the Illusive Man, this is not about Shepard or anyone else, it's about things so much bigger than all of them.

The endings are true sci-fi, it's like reading Arthur C. Clarke or Asimov. Not the garbage that you demand.

An ending doesn't need to be happy in order to make sense, provide closure, and make the player feel like their time and money was worth it.

And, dude, don't you compare this whole fiasco to mah boi Isaac.


Or mah boi Clarke. Don't even go there with Bradbury, even. I can think of some awesome stories by those authors that had great endings, airtight plots, and didn't make me go WTF? in a bad way at the end. I loved Nightfall...not a happy ending at all, but it was satisfying, and it made sense.

There are so many plotholes here, I'm spraining my ankles from wading through the narrative.

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cachx wrote...

A chill just went down my spine.
What if they made an epilogue comic?


That just reminded me the upcoming Homeworld comics. Good luck selling them now.

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fropas wrote...

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Well the articles I read on gaming blogs about this "Change the Endings" campaign are actually insulting this movement while reporting on it, so I don't get why everyone is happy about this "attention."


Destructoid compares this movement to Kathy Bates in MiseryImage IPB.


:lol: Epic win right there.

Still...

crazyrabbits wrote...
if anything, it introduced an unneeded philosophical element
at the eleventh hour.


I completely agree with that.

Modifié par ToJKa1, 12 mars 2012 - 02:14 .


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LizML wrote...

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People who haven't played ME3: OH MY GOD WHAT A BUNCH OF WHINERS

People who have played ME3: HOLY BALLS THAT WAS BAD SOMEBODY FIX THIS

This x1000

Most of the people claiming protesters are whiners, are either  A) have not played the ME series, work for some kind of development company. or B) Have yet to finish the game.

Don't get me wrong, there's a few weirdos out there, who think the endings we're amazing. I'm sure those people started playing ME after they saw a commercial for ME2-3 

People who have played these games for the past 5 years, and countless hours dedicated to it, should be appalled at the endings. I did not see that coming at all when playing the game. When people leaked the endings, I thought it was a huge troll, I thought "There's no way BioWare would make that huge of a mistake."

Alas I was wrong.


And you consider yourself a true fan? Watching leaked video spoiling your game? Yeah really? Which true fan would spoil his game like this. Try to convince someone else that you are a "true fan".

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

People who haven't played ME3: OH MY GOD WHAT A BUNCH OF WHINERS

People who have played ME3: HOLY BALLS THAT WAS BAD SOMEBODY FIX THIS


Except I've been person 2 for months now.

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crazyrabbits wrote...

maxulic wrote...

Wow... the amount of childishness in this "community" (?) is seriously astounding :o

People who can't see that the 3 endings have a scope larger than what they demand like a happy ending with Shepard and Miss (or Mr.) Shepard and their kids and their friends living in a wonderful world. The fact is that, quoting the Illusive Man, this is not about Shepard or anyone else, it's about things so much bigger than all of them.

The endings are true sci-fi, it's like reading Arthur C. Clarke or Asimov. Not the garbage that you demand.


Your first mistake was assuming everyone wanted a "happy" ending.

Your second was assuming that there was any choice during the endings. They all played almost the exact same way - the only thing different was the colour of the lights.

Your third was assuming this was "true sci-fi" - if anything, it introduced an unneeded philosophical element at the eleventh hour.


Do I seriously need to explain the meaning of each ending and how your choice does matter? Really? :mellow:

Modifié par maxulic, 12 mars 2012 - 02:14 .


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Reviews from less mainstream publications are rather critical of the endings.

http://www.atomicmpc...ppointed.aspx/2

I think I will always consider Mass Effect, as a whole, to be one of the seminal experiences of my gaming life. I’d rather have it, flawed as it may be, than not have it at all, and Commander Shepard and his crew stand tall in my own personal heroic pantheon. But it also seems clear that, in the end, BioWare’s reach has exceeded its grasp; Mass Effect is simply not as strong a game as could be hoped. Sure, it plays to all of the company’s many strengths, but, sadly, also shows up more than a few of its weaknesses, never more so in the way the game ends on a high emotional note, and then immediately tells you to look forward to the DLC.

Really? Did we need that? Apparently so...



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Drake_1000 wrote...

cachx wrote...
A chill just went down my spine.
What if they made an epilogue comic?

Dont see the point.


Oh. I meant in-game, and voiced like Genesis. But for the end. 
Seems like a cheap, quick and lazy way out, so it's really within the realm of possibility. Because I honestly don't see them hiring all the voice actors again, and creating new cinematics for this, specially if it's not a previosly planned DLC.

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It all boils down to whether or not it's more finantially advantageous for Bio \\ EA to fix this or not.

Follow the money.

All other priorities rescinded...

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Just beat the game.... the ending was ho--ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL. I'm commander Shepard and this is my favorite ending on the citadel...

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maxulic wrote...
Do I seriously need to explain the meaning of each ending and how your choice does matter? Really? :mellow:


No, you do not. Do you know why?

Because no one cares. Most people didn't ask for or want some overwrought, philosophical garbage crammed down their throats at the last second of the game. A more suiting finale in the vein of the previous two games was expected, along with a DA:O-style epilogue to tell us what effect our choices regarding things like the Genophage and the Quarian/Geth War had in the long run.

But nullifying all of those choices, railroading us into picking one of three possible outcomes (all of which result in essentially the exact same thing), and not showing us any kind of substantial aftermath is not a good way to end a franchise built on the very choices the ending nullified, to say the very least. So whatever "deeper" meaning those three decisions at the end held was irrelevant, all things considered.

Modifié par greengoron89, 12 mars 2012 - 02:26 .


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maxulic wrote...
Do I seriously need to explain the meaning of each ending and how your choice does matter? Really? :mellow:


You're absolutely right. We received green, blue, and (I think) it was orange colored lights? Choices with consequences and all that.

Modifié par BaladasDemnevanni, 12 mars 2012 - 02:22 .


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cachx wrote...

Drake_1000 wrote...

cachx wrote...
A chill just went down my spine.
What if they made an epilogue comic?

Dont see the point.


Oh. I meant in-game, and voiced like Genesis. But for the end. 
Seems like a cheap, quick and lazy way out, so it's really within the realm of possibility. Because I honestly don't see them hiring all the voice actors again, and creating new cinematics for this, specially if it's not a previosly planned DLC.


that depends.  for example.  Dragon age 2 DLC's that sell for 10 bucks each?  brought back ALL the VO's for ALL possible squadmates.  did all the recording.  its not too much too expect since they already set a precedent for it being possible.

comic would be a cheap/ easy, lazy way to create epilogues.  I'd rather pay 10 bucks for a thought out DLC.

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Dave of Canada wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

People who haven't played ME3: OH MY GOD WHAT A BUNCH OF WHINERS

People who have played ME3: HOLY BALLS THAT WAS BAD SOMEBODY FIX THIS


Except I've been person 2 for months now.


Except you were against the majority of the game if I'm not mistaken.

If I am my apologies.

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They may have already recorded the lines for an alternate ending DLC if another thread was right...

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With a few minor problems, the game was great, right up till the last 15 minutes. Like the majority here, I felt greatly disappointed. The only other major issue I have is that in ME2 and 3 we see Tali remove her mask, but never see her face. I would have loved to see her face on the Quarian/Geth homeworld, and maybe a tear run down her face over seeing the home of her ancestors.

Modifié par RFaurora, 12 mars 2012 - 02:25 .


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Dave of Canada wrote...

Except I've been person 2 for months now.

But you've only become Handsome Squidward recently...

It's just...  The rest of the game was pretty damn good, you know?  Some parts were sadly weak and obviously rushed, but others outshone the previous titles with ease.

And then, psshhh, wow.  This thing.  At the end.  It just...  Wow.

Headcanoned that Shep was indoctrinated.

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maxulic wrote...
Do I seriously need to explain the meaning of each ending and how your choice does matter? Really? :mellow:


Without going into spoilers, the only thing that really changes is the color of the lights being beamed out. Considering how different each ending supposedly is, there is no real variation in all three final cutscenes - if you've seen one, you've seen them all.

I could also do without the DayGlo highlighting, thanks. I know what your question is.

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Bad reviews about the ending are really starting to hit Amazon now. Both the XBox and PC version are 2 1/2 stars with over 200 reviews. No bueno.

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anlk92 wrote...

cachx wrote...

A chill just went down my spine.
What if they made an epilogue comic?


That just reminded me the upcoming Homeworld comics. Good luck selling them now.

Yeah, their homeworlds are all the random jungle planet now.

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Drake_1000

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cachx wrote...

Drake_1000 wrote...

cachx wrote...
A chill just went down my spine.
What if they made an epilogue comic?

Dont see the point.


Oh. I meant in-game, and voiced like Genesis. But for the end. 
Seems like a cheap, quick and lazy way out, so it's really within the realm of possibility. Because I honestly don't see them hiring all the voice actors again, and creating new cinematics for this, specially if it's not a previosly planned DLC.


I dont like it. They can just hire Shepard's and Hackett's voice and the rest with someone who explain the rest. Whatever actually there is no voice acting of your crew once you start the ending.