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#51
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This is just the beggining of publicity. If there is a chance to get a DLC, which is really the only way to solve this, then continue. Become a single group asking bioware, without insulting them, to give ME3 the ending you believe it deserves. You did this with deception, you can probably do this for ME3.
I may like the endings, but if there is a better one that comes out that's good to hear for the community. Just don't, in the future, start complaining about it being a dlc you have to pay for...since everyone who wants it now is saying they are willing to pay for such. That's all I ask.

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All attention is good attention. Most of the ME: Deception attention was "LOL BSN" but in the end Bioware did the right thing. We have hope that this shall end the same because, having been a ringleader for that debacle there is a much larger and just as unified force against the ME3 endings.

And like almost everone else who hates this 99% of the game is ****ing awesome but that last 5 minutes man...hoo boy!

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There won't be an ending "re-write" because that would set a precedent and fans everywhere would petition for re-writes of their favourite games. It's still a good way of showing whether you agree or not with the endings. Best we can hope for is, I believe, some kind of "epilogue" DLC.

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

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It won't be long before you join us.

I honestly thought everyone was exaggerating. Boy was i wrong.

Same here.  I was defending the endings right up until I played the game.  I was all, "oh guys, don't worry--it only looks bad on paper, and there's a lot of meaning and depth behind it."

LOL NOPE

I feel kinda dumb now, tbh.

You know when Cheez is upset about the endings something is definitely wrong.

And I have to say, I feel dumb too. All that time analyzing the leaked script, and I just kind of looked past the endings, thinking "oh, they're just incomplete; the finished product will make sense and be better". I was wrong.

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JeffZero wrote...

Keep the pressure on. Just because I don't fall into Cheez's "HOLY BALLS THAT WAS BAD SOMEBODY FIX THIS" category despite having played and beaten the game doesn't mean I think the endings are good as-is. I look forward to seeing what you can do if you work together. I know it sounds cliche, cheesy. But as someone who has taken a headstrong approach in several successful fan campaigns I am certifiable proof that they do succeed. Sometimes.

You need lots of luck. But you can't pull it off without skill too.


then why dont you join ? its not for obtaining a *cheezy* ending more like a freedom of choice. i dont see a bad thing on that, all the support is always welcome.

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makenzieshepard wrote...

All attention is good attention. Most of the ME: Deception attention was "LOL BSN" but in the end Bioware did the right thing. We have hope that this shall end the same because, having been a ringleader for that debacle there is a much larger and just as unified force against the ME3 endings.

And like almost everone else who hates this 99% of the game is ****ing awesome but that last 5 minutes man...hoo boy!


This, Bioware deserve high praise for the journey from ME1 to ME3 and shouldn't let the negativity bring them down, everyone has enjoyed the game so far. Atleast the majority have, Bioware have worked hard and it payed off but the ending is a joke.

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Woo! I love controversial, unhappy and shocking endings!

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JeffZero wrote...

Keep the pressure on. Just because I don't fall into Cheez's "HOLY BALLS THAT WAS BAD SOMEBODY FIX THIS" category despite having played and beaten the game doesn't mean I think the endings are good as-is. I look forward to seeing what you can do if you work together. I know it sounds cliche, cheesy. But as someone who has taken a headstrong approach in several successful fan campaigns I am certifiable proof that they do succeed. Sometimes.

You need lots of luck. But you can't pull it off without skill too.


Listen to this guy. He knows what's up.

I myself will be organizing our arguments against this in a more constructive form; hopefully I'll be done in the next few days. I'll keep checking back here for any new coverage you scrounge up, OP. We'll need to scrape this all together and form something comprehensive.

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Naughty Bear wrote...

makenzieshepard wrote...

All attention is good attention. Most of the ME: Deception attention was "LOL BSN" but in the end Bioware did the right thing. We have hope that this shall end the same because, having been a ringleader for that debacle there is a much larger and just as unified force against the ME3 endings.

And like almost everone else who hates this 99% of the game is ****ing awesome but that last 5 minutes man...hoo boy!


This, Bioware deserve high praise for the journey from ME1 to ME3 and shouldn't let the negativity bring them down, everyone has enjoyed the game so far. Atleast the majority have, Bioware have worked hard and it payed off but the ending is a joke.


dude i think theres barely some peeps that complain of The game itself, the ones that are actually asking/ expecting to be heard are those that are not OKAY with the ending im pretty sure your part of that too.. i mean seriously the ending its just a numnuts. 

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Squallypo wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Keep the pressure on. Just because I don't fall into Cheez's "HOLY BALLS THAT WAS BAD SOMEBODY FIX THIS" category despite having played and beaten the game doesn't mean I think the endings are good as-is. I look forward to seeing what you can do if you work together. I know it sounds cliche, cheesy. But as someone who has taken a headstrong approach in several successful fan campaigns I am certifiable proof that they do succeed. Sometimes.

You need lots of luck. But you can't pull it off without skill too.


then why dont you join ? its not for obtaining a *cheezy* ending more like a freedom of choice. i dont see a bad thing on that, all the support is always welcome.


He's already doing a lot right now, just mostly background scurrying. ;D

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"We fight, or we keep the endings."

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JeffZero wrote...

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You would think I would be glad that I actually understand and Like the endings but no, I'm an Altruist and the fact everyone else isn't enjoying it sucks the fun right out of the game.


I just tripled my respect for you.

And I'd like to add that I'm kinda in the same boat, yes.


I've thrown my hat into the ring.

Let's hope this works. :wizard:

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CDRSkyShepard wrote...

Squallypo wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Keep the pressure on. Just because I don't fall into Cheez's "HOLY BALLS THAT WAS BAD SOMEBODY FIX THIS" category despite having played and beaten the game doesn't mean I think the endings are good as-is. I look forward to seeing what you can do if you work together. I know it sounds cliche, cheesy. But as someone who has taken a headstrong approach in several successful fan campaigns I am certifiable proof that they do succeed. Sometimes.

You need lots of luck. But you can't pull it off without skill too.


then why dont you join ? its not for obtaining a *cheezy* ending more like a freedom of choice. i dont see a bad thing on that, all the support is always welcome.


He's already doing a lot right now, just mostly background scurrying. ;D

I'm with him on supporting the group by saying "join together and become one loud voice". My only problem is I can't say the same...beucase I did like the ending. All I can do is say "Do it, and see if you can help make the game better" and "If a DLC does come out like you all wish, do not complain about having to pay."

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Tali's picture also needs to be redone or removed completely.

Bad writing is one thing but THAT WAS JUST LAZY

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So what actually ended up happening with Deception? Has it been modified?

Though yeah, getting our whining noticed about the ME3 ending is definitely a good thing.

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This is an outrage !

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Naughty Bear wrote...

The game is perfect and i hope the ending does not put people off what i loved is the tone starts to change from signs of hope and maybe a chance of winning which quickly descends to rapidly dminishing hope and desperation.

It's quite scary.


I question your ability to critique games objectively. NO GAME IS PERFECT. I will go one step further. NOTHING is perfect. This game has some glaring problems aside from from ashes, such as bugs that stop people from progress, importing faces from past ME title, to glitches of falling through maps, stuck in barriers, questionable creative efforts from photoshop stock photos to blantant rip offs of other titles, to plotholes Perfect you say? No, but it is still a good game. Please refraim from commenting any further until you can address this matter with some sort of objectivity.

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OdanUrr wrote...

There won't be an ending "re-write" because that would set a precedent and fans everywhere would petition for re-writes of their favourite games. It's still a good way of showing whether you agree or not with the endings. Best we can hope for is, I believe, some kind of "epilogue" DLC.


Quite so, probably. But few fan campaigns get the entire package. Think big but don't get your hopes up; be happy with partial resolution.

Farscape was a success. But we didn't get a fifth season, we got a four-hour finale. Deception was a success, but an eventual re-write doesn't 100% solve the stupidity of the character deaths and usages.

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As I understand it, they're working to "fix" the errors in the novel, and will be releasing an "updated" version. I am *most* amused.

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Squallypo wrote...

Naughty Bear wrote...

makenzieshepard wrote...

All attention is good attention. Most of the ME: Deception attention was "LOL BSN" but in the end Bioware did the right thing. We have hope that this shall end the same because, having been a ringleader for that debacle there is a much larger and just as unified force against the ME3 endings.

And like almost everone else who hates this 99% of the game is ****ing awesome but that last 5 minutes man...hoo boy!


This, Bioware deserve high praise for the journey from ME1 to ME3 and shouldn't let the negativity bring them down, everyone has enjoyed the game so far. Atleast the majority have, Bioware have worked hard and it payed off but the ending is a joke.


dude i think theres barely some peeps that complain of The game itself, the ones that are actually asking/ expecting to be heard are those that are not OKAY with the ending im pretty sure your part of that too.. i mean seriously the ending its just a numnuts. 


Yeah i am part of this, i hate the endings, numnuts is not the word i would describe the ending, it includes alot of profanity and possible personal insults but lets just stick with numnuts.
 
I am just saying Bioware should not interpret this as everyone hating Mass Effect 3 itself.

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JeffZero wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

You would think I would be glad that I actually understand and Like the endings but no, I'm an Altruist and the fact everyone else isn't enjoying it sucks the fun right out of the game.


I just tripled my respect for you.

And I'd like to add that I'm kinda in the same boat, yes.


I respect that definately.  The funny thing is as pissed off as I am/was at the endings I see now how it actually fits, in a tragic way, my non-canon shep who I decided to import first after all the murmurings.  The bitterness, tragedy and such fits.  But it doesn't fit my other Sheps and offer almost no replay value ending wise which is sad.  Different endings for different Sheps!

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give us another ending bioware perhaps one where shepard lives and one he dies and it makes sense on why he died oe-e..

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Tali's picture also needs to be redone or removed completely.

Bad writing is one thing but THAT WAS JUST LAZY


Lawlz. I wonder how many people know that the Tali picture is just a shooped stock photo BW randomly found on the Internet.

That's a fail.

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Zenor wrote...

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

Squallypo wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Keep the pressure on. Just because I don't fall into Cheez's "HOLY BALLS THAT WAS BAD SOMEBODY FIX THIS" category despite having played and beaten the game doesn't mean I think the endings are good as-is. I look forward to seeing what you can do if you work together. I know it sounds cliche, cheesy. But as someone who has taken a headstrong approach in several successful fan campaigns I am certifiable proof that they do succeed. Sometimes.

You need lots of luck. But you can't pull it off without skill too.


then why dont you join ? its not for obtaining a *cheezy* ending more like a freedom of choice. i dont see a bad thing on that, all the support is always welcome.


He's already doing a lot right now, just mostly background scurrying. ;D

I'm with him on supporting the group by saying "join together and become one loud voice". My only problem is I can't say the same...beucase I did like the ending. All I can do is say "Do it, and see if you can help make the game better" and "If a DLC does come out like you all wish, do not complain about having to pay."


Thanks for backing me up there, Sky. You're too kind. Always a pleasure, Spectre.

I didn't 'like' the endings per se, but I definitely enjoyed them about ten times more than the average BSNer polled thus far, hehe. But yes, precisely so. If it makes the game all the better then by all means! Carry on, my wayward Presslys and Adams.

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The galaxy has to stand together against the endings.