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TheShadowWolf911 wrote...

i like the ending on page 1, the one with the link to deviant art.

freaking awesome.

I know right? It actually moved me quite a bit. Absolute masterpiece.




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Thanks pal. Hopefully all this effort pays off huh [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]

Just added the links to the POLL and another link to the most talked about ALTERNATE ENDING to the first post.


I thought this was the most popular ending suggestion?

 
I meant outside of BSN too. The one I linked to is blowing up all over the web - DeviantArt, GameTrailers, BSN, everywhere....seriously, read it. Absolutely the best ending proposed, by a mile. Incredible stuff.

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I don't even know what the hell you people want, really. It was an invasion and a war; either you win or you lose, and they wanted to keep it canon for everyone. Your decisions still effect everything up to that point and they even effect how the end comes about.

Since this is the end of the series and ME3 is already a huge commercial success they are probably just going to laugh at your queer little petition. Good luck, ladies.

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Well, I've liked the end of The Sopranos, hated the end of Matrix and never watched Lost so I think I'll get some mixed feelings from the ending. lol

I can't wait to get out of work to start playing the game.


But would you like to see it as the ending of Mass Effect?

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Throwing in my support for the proposed ending scenario as well; this is what we should have been given in the first place. Why were we forced into using the Crucible? We should have been able to go against it.

Also, the ending moved me quite a bit. Hells yeah we want to see Grunt take down a brute and empty shotgun rounds into it's face.

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Gigamantis wrote...

I don't even know what the hell you people want, really. It was an invasion and a war; either you win or you lose, and they wanted to keep it canon for everyone. Your decisions still effect everything up to that point and they even effect how the end comes about.

Since this is the end of the series and ME3 is already a huge commercial success they are probably just going to laugh at your queer little petition. Good luck, ladies.


The problem with the ending with most people is the fact that our past descions don't seem to matter on how things turn out when it comes to our three descions, the loopholes such as the Normandy leaving Sol System during the fight, and the fact our companions made it the normandy is a huge issue. I know some people want a Disney ending, but I'm not too picky on seeing Shepard dying with the exception of a perfect ending if possible. But the choices don't seem to reflect what Shepard fought for. He opposes what the Reapers due to organics by merging them with synthetics, but that is an option. Shepard can control the Reapers which he was against a mere 5 minutes earlier with his confrontation with the Illusive Man. Finally he destroys all synthetic life including the Geth in which he fought for to become indepedent thinkers. The options you are given don't fit the canon of what Shepard was fighting for, and the fact there is not much dialogue in which you can convince the catalyst your points on how synthetics and organic life can live together.

p.s.: All the relays get destroyed which I don't get.

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pattywagon wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...

I don't even know what the hell you people want, really. It was an invasion and a war; either you win or you lose, and they wanted to keep it canon for everyone. Your decisions still effect everything up to that point and they even effect how the end comes about.

Since this is the end of the series and ME3 is already a huge commercial success they are probably just going to laugh at your queer little petition. Good luck, ladies.


The problem with the ending with most people is the fact that our past descions don't seem to matter on how things turn out when it comes to our three descions, the loopholes such as the Normandy leaving Sol System during the fight, and the fact our companions made it the normandy is a huge issue. I know some people want a Disney ending, but I'm not too picky on seeing Shepard dying with the exception of a perfect ending if possible. But the choices don't seem to reflect what Shepard fought for. He opposes what the Reapers due to organics by merging them with synthetics, but that is an option. Shepard can control the Reapers which he was against a mere 5 minutes earlier with his confrontation with the Illusive Man. Finally he destroys all synthetic life including the Geth in which he fought for to become indepedent thinkers. The options you are given don't fit the canon of what Shepard was fighting for, and the fact there is not much dialogue in which you can convince the catalyst your points on how synthetics and organic life can live together.

p.s.: All the relays get destroyed which I don't get.


Seriously, just don't bother.

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good thing that somebody is spreading the word, but unfortunately I dont think bioware will make an ending dlc. There are few reasons for that:
1. most anticipated game award
2. bioware is not independant company and if they do such announcement then everybody will blame EA for rushed game.
3. positive reviews - if they do dlc then it will make review company fools and make them incompetent in eyes of public, and such action could break relationships between them. (Actually Me3 feels really rushed too many flaws, bugs, etc and scores like higher than 9 means that they're not honest imho)

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Punk4Real wrote...

I meant outside of BSN too. The one I linked to is blowing up all over the web - DeviantArt, GameTrailers, BSN, everywhere....seriously, read it. Absolutely the best ending proposed, by a mile. Incredible stuff.


That ending is still illogical. People are matter/energy so you can re-write their DNA via an energy pulse? Give me a break.<_<

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pattywagon wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...

I don't even know what the hell you people want, really. It was an invasion and a war; either you win or you lose, and they wanted to keep it canon for everyone. Your decisions still effect everything up to that point and they even effect how the end comes about.

Since this is the end of the series and ME3 is already a huge commercial success they are probably just going to laugh at your queer little petition. Good luck, ladies.


The problem with the ending with most people is the fact that our past descions don't seem to matter on how things turn out when it comes to our three descions, the loopholes such as the Normandy leaving Sol System during the fight, and the fact our companions made it the normandy is a huge issue. I know some people want a Disney ending, but I'm not too picky on seeing Shepard dying with the exception of a perfect ending if possible. But the choices don't seem to reflect what Shepard fought for. He opposes what the Reapers due to organics by merging them with synthetics, but that is an option. Shepard can control the Reapers which he was against a mere 5 minutes earlier with his confrontation with the Illusive Man. Finally he destroys all synthetic life including the Geth in which he fought for to become indepedent thinkers. The options you are given don't fit the canon of what Shepard was fighting for, and the fact there is not much dialogue in which you can convince the catalyst your points on how synthetics and organic life can live together.

p.s.: All the relays get destroyed which I don't get.


Gigamantis just wants to rile people up. He's done it a couple times in this thread already. He likes ad hominem attacks. Just ignore him. He's in the distinct minority.

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Punk4Real wrote...

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Punk4Real, thanks again for this thread and for maintaining the first post.

There are now over 28,000 voters in the hard-to-find poll about the ending. Still only 2% think the ending is fine as it is. Two percent!!! I can assure you the poll is not a representation of the entire population of Mass Effect 3 purchasers, but even so, the probability that a majority of the entire population liking the ending is zero.

It doesn't matter from a business perspective why the users don't like the ending. What matters is the NUMBER of users that don't like the ending.

Statistically speaking, there is no way the majority of Mass Effect 3 game owners like the ending. The sample size is too large now. That's no bueno.

Fans are disappointed. Their discontent has flooded into almost every thread in every forum. The people that oppose changing the endings get completely overwhelmed by people that want to do something about it. Look at how fast this thread grew and look at the ratio of posters that don't like the endings to those that do. Look at the user reviews in the spoiler section.

And most people haven't even finished the game yet.

How many people have you cautioned against playing Mass Effect 3? Word of mouth is dangerous.

Now other sites have mentioned the problem - including those mentioned in the first post and those scattered throughout this thread. Even Wikipedia mentions it.

On Amazon, the average review for the PC version of the game has dropped to 2 out of 5 stars. That's hard to do too since the game started around 4.5 out of 5 stars.

BioWare should address the endings.


Thanks pal. Hopefully all this effort pays off huh :D

Just added the links to the POLL and another link to the most talked about ALTERNATE ENDING to the first post.


Thanks for linking that alternate. I hadn't read it yet. Much better ending. I can see Shepard playing this part. The diplomatic battle hardened banter of a soldier that has been through hell for almost the last half decade; aggressively arguing the case to this final foe. Not laying down and saying, "...well if those are the choices you give me, I always like the color blue!"

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CVG have also reported on the campaign www.computerandvideogames.com/339608/features/mass-effect-3s-ending-why-the-backlash-is-idiotic-but-inevitable/

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Punk4Real wrote...

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I thought this was the most popular ending suggestion?

 
I meant outside of BSN too. The one I linked to is blowing up all over the web - DeviantArt, GameTrailers, BSN, everywhere....seriously, read it. Absolutely the best ending proposed, by a mile. Incredible stuff.


....damn.
But wait. How does that answer why
SPOILERS

Harbinger actually offers you a chance to destroy them? Since obviously in this solution, he was trying to break Shepard.

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OdanUrr wrote...

Punk4Real wrote...

I meant outside of BSN too. The one I linked to is blowing up all over the web - DeviantArt, GameTrailers, BSN, everywhere....seriously, read it. Absolutely the best ending proposed, by a mile. Incredible stuff.


That ending is still illogical. People are matter/energy so you can re-write their DNA via an energy pulse? Give me a break.<_<


Wtf are you even talking about? Read the one I linked to in the first post.
It says NOTHING about energy pulses or DNA....wtf?

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Like you said Broham.

I have never posted on the forums after registering for DA 1.

The ending honestly made me set the controller down and wonder how such a great game, with awesome everything turned into a messed galatic eenie meenie minie moe.

It took six months for Bethseda to make Broken steel, so my fellow brothers....who's in this for the long haul?

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I find it higly amusing that people use such terms as moral "grays" when most people confuse moral "gray" with "Black". Most people dont have a ****ing clue as to how "black" the world can be and yet presume to know "gray".

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Punk4Real wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Punk4Real wrote...

I meant outside of BSN too. The one I linked to is blowing up all over the web - DeviantArt, GameTrailers, BSN, everywhere....seriously, read it. Absolutely the best ending proposed, by a mile. Incredible stuff.


That ending is still illogical. People are matter/energy so you can re-write their DNA via an energy pulse? Give me a break.<_<


Wtf are you even talking about? Read the one I linked to in the first post.
It says NOTHING about energy pulses or DNA....wtf?


It's not from that ending specifically, it's something that carries on from Bioware's: Synthesis.

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felipejiraya wrote...

SolidBeast wrote...

Therefore_I_Am wrote...

felipejiraya wrote...

Ok, I have to ask: it's worse than Matrix?


It's like the ending of the Matrix Trilogy & the Sopranos season finale mixed into one. So... yeeaah pretty much.


Throw in a bit of Lost for good measure.


Well, I've liked the end of The Sopranos, hated the end of Matrix and never watched Lost so I think I'll get some mixed feelings from the ending. lol

I can't wait to get out of work to start playing the game.


*shrug* Enjoy the first 95% of the game, though, and the last 5% of the game will be your opinion and your opinion alone of course... unless your opinion coincides with the majority of the fanbase right now.

Modifié par Therefore_I_Am, 12 mars 2012 - 03:27 .


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SolidBeast wrote...

Therefore_I_Am wrote.
(Casper the Friendly Ghost).


...Except he's pretty much the opposite of Casper AFAIK. Unless Casper is pure evil.


{{SPOILER}}




I was being sarcastic but yes he is pure evil. I wanted to throw that little ****** off the platform/bridge, mostly out of anger because I couldn't choose what to say to him and what he was saying didn't make any sense to the rest of the series.

Modifié par Therefore_I_Am, 12 mars 2012 - 03:35 .


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One would think hell one even assume that with a the final chapter of a major video game trilogy and potentional multi-media sci-fi franchise that could be worth a lot of money to it's owners, that a conventional happy or at least more upbeat hopeful ending and giving all of the characters that people all over the world have come to care about a sense of closure, would make a LOT of sense commercially.

Now I'm not against a bittersweet or even a downbeat ending if they make sense. The second Shepard meets Catalyst the game stops making any sense. The Catalsyst's explaining the Reapers' reasons make no sense. It's against synthetic life so it turns all organic life into synthetic life? Also the outcomes of the "choice" that Shepard is forced to make basically are the SAME with different colors for the the destruction of the relays and who leaves the ship with Joker on the planet. 

Then after the credits we get what a looks poorly animated .jif picture with the Stargazer and the Child talking about the events of the game and the Child asks for another story and the Stargazer agrees to tell it. Who the hell is the Stargazer and is it the same planet Joker and company crashed on centuries further into the future or is it a different planet? 

My personal problem with the endings is that aren't set up (or if they are I missed them or didn't see them) in any of the Mass Effect games and they feel like that they have been pulled from another game.   

Now this the bittersweet ending that I would love to see would be something like this: 

Shepard using her/his last bit of engery triggers the Crucible releasing a ton of dark engery on the Reapers and that destroys them but that much dark engery leaves the Earth unable to support any of the advance technology that the people of the Mass Effect universe enjoy and this leaves a bunch of humans, krogan, turians, asari, salarians, and some other aliens stranded on Earth.

Shepard dies and is honored. The love interest that the gamer picks in Mass Effect 3 dies of grief and they are buried or their bodies are sent into a star together.  

Those trapped on Earth start to rebuild the planet and form a new civilization of hard work, peace, and understanding, and they understand that fleet gathered to fight the Reapers was forced to leave them behind.

Humans are now forced to live on planets like Eden Prime, Horizon, and Terra Nova. 

The Citadel automatically returns to it's orginal place in the galaxy.

And we should SEE the fates of the surviving squad mates.

The last shot should be of Shepard and one of the various LIs looking on as the Normandy now under the command of Joker and EDI fly off into a sun rise over a new Earth-like planet.

Yes, there is a lot of sadness but there is hope, I think that would be a better bittersweet ending then what we currently have and would at least made more sense and set up any number of ways to do Mass Effect 4 set after the events of Mass Effect 3

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Interesting that some have been quick to dismiss the uproar as nothing more than arrogant player entitlement.

There's no closure nor coherent choice to back that argument.

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Therefore_I_Am wrote...

SolidBeast wrote...

Therefore_I_Am wrote.
(Casper the Friendly Ghost).


...Except he's pretty much the opposite of Casper AFAIK. Unless Casper is pure evil.


{{SPOILER}}




I was being sarcastic but yes he is pure evil. I wanted to throw that little ****** off the platform/bridge, mostly out of anger because I couldn't choose what to say to him and what he was saying didn't make any sense to the rest of the series.


SPOILER

Haha, boy oh boy do I hate that little ******!
I'm playing those dream scenes again to see him burn :devil:.

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OP you should probably add this, pretty good read, not only abou the endings. No spoilers.

http://www.forbes.co...ass-effect-3/2/

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Merkar wrote...

Interesting that some have been quick to dismiss the uproar as nothing more than arrogant player entitlement.

There's no closure nor coherent choice to back that argument.


Ya gotta expect it. It's the generic reaction.

I'm more interested in BioWare's reaction.

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AlexXIV wrote...

OP you should probably add this, pretty good read, not only abou the endings. No spoilers.

http://www.forbes.co...ass-effect-3/2/


Done! Thanks for the link :D

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 Swedish Fragzone made an article about this. with it's own poll. 

www.fz.se/artiklar/nyheter/20120312/fans-kraver-battre-****-i-mass-effect-3