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[kbct]

AlexXIV wrote...

OP you should probably add this, pretty good read, not only abou the endings. No spoilers.

http://www.forbes.co...ass-effect-3/2/

Awesome. Now that is more like it - something that adds a business perspective.

Keep em coming, everyone!

Modifié par kbct, 12 mars 2012 - 03:51 .

[tsd16]

Why is this not in the spoilers section? There have already been multiple people giving things away about the ending in this thread.

[ekurian]

tsd16 wrote...

Why is this not in the spoilers section? There have already been multiple people giving things away about the ending in this thread.

Because some of us are having trouble registering our copies of ME3, and we would be unable to post, I assume.

[kbct]

Impactisan wrote...

 Swedish Fragzone made an article about this. with it's own poll. 

www.fz.se/artiklar/nyheter/20120312/fans-kraver-battre-****-i-mass-effect-3

Thanks.

I just translated it and only 50% of the people on a gaming site have played/finished Mass Effect 3. The overall population must be lower than that. There will be plenty of disappointed players yet to come.

BioWar should address the endings.

[Zpardi]

AlexXIV wrote...

OP you should probably add this, pretty good read, not only abou the endings. No spoilers.

http://www.forbes.co...ass-effect-3/2/

Someone needs to forward this article on Twitter to the devs. Preferably Gamble and Hudson. Excellent article, excellent ideas.

[kbct]

tsd16 wrote...

Why is this not in the spoilers section? There have already been multiple people giving things away about the ending in this thread.

Show me a thread with over 800 post without one spoiler in it. Yes, some people have mentioned stuff but overall the thread is spoiler free.

[SolidBeast]

Zpardi wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

OP you should probably add this, pretty good read, not only abou the endings. No spoilers.

http://www.forbes.co...ass-effect-3/2/

Someone needs to forward this article on Twitter to the devs. Preferably Gamble and Hudson. Excellent article, excellent ideas.

I'm confused. How are these ideas anything different than what a lot of people here already said? Except for being in blog form?
Other than that, the "most popular ending suggestion" could never work with it also being free. I think "not much programming" is an understatement. We know it would be the fair thing to do, all things considered, but I don't think anyone here can actually expect a decent DLC ending to come free, should it come at all. It's the perfect opportunity to cash in.

[Lux]

tsd16 wrote...

Why is this not in the spoilers section? There have already been multiple people giving things away about the ending in this thread.

By the current forum rules, people like me have no other means to express their opinion on the matter. I've backed down from buying ME3 due to this issue but will certainly not be a silent spectator (while not giving away spoilers hopefully).

I'd very much like to finish what I started years ago but not as things are at the moment.

[Punk4Real]

tsd16 wrote...

Why is this not in the spoilers section? There have already been multiple people giving things away about the ending in this thread.

You can't expect to read a thread about 'the endings' without some people possibly posting some spoilers.
However, the original post I posted DOES NOT violate the no-spoiler rule, so it has every right to be in this forum.

[ColdRiver]

That ending in the OP is a great ending. I wish we could squeeze Shepard destroying Harbinger from the inside as the final boss with that one.

[RogueWriter3201]

I'm definitely in support of the campaign to change the ending to something it *should* have been in the first place; while I respect that others disagree, it nice to see, more and more, that it really is the majority, not just a very vocal minority, that is standing firm in their resolve to see ME3 completed with everything that was promised as well as maintaining the tone of the entire series and the conclusions of the two previous entries. 

The consistent excuse that "It's a War Story, so it shouldn't have a good ending," is really irrelevant and just flat out flawed. Mass Effect has always been a heroic action adventure and science fiction epic, it's never tried to be overly realistic in it's portrayal of the "realities" of War. Sacrifices and losses, of course. But an ending which forces a tragic narrative conclusion seemingly for the mere sake of somber pathos just flies in the face of everything the series has done to this point. 

Anyway, that's neither here nor there; my initial intent was to simply say that while the ending featured on Page 1 certainly is of better quality and substance then what the writers chose to go with, it's still not what I want to see, at least in part. What I would have really loved is seeing not only the races, against all odds, Rally, defeat the Reapers and eliminate the threat once and for all, preserving everything remaining (not loosing half of the advanced technology, Relays included, in the Universe as a giant MacGuffin) and finally being free to decide their own fate as a whole, not cut off from one another. Also, of course, seeing Shepard come out the other end, much as we saw in the climax of ME1 after Sovereign's remains wreck the Citadel Tower. 

What would have been an awesome Epilogue, allowing the players one last experience with choice in the narrative: 

Cut to a year later, we see news footage of various worlds across the galaxy, including Earth, undergoing massive reconstruction efforts, with all the races aiding each other where they can in a strong effort to maintain the new bonds of peace and cooperation Shepard (we) forged among them. 

You then hear a Voice Over, and it's either Diana Allers or Al-Jilani (if you finally called her on her BS once and for all and got her to open up to you) saying something along the lines of, "As recovery efforts continue across the galaxy, with Alliance races continuing to work hand in hand to rebuild anew after the devastation, we stop to reflect on what has been lost, and, most importantly, what has been gained.” 

“How did this terrible war come to pass and how was it resolved. Greatest of all, what comes next? To answer that we turn to the architect of the Galaxy's resounding, and seemingly impossible, victory against the greatest threat intelligent life has ever known." 

The Camera then pans and we see our Shepard, looking slightly older (the cost of his long fight evident on his/her face) sitting across from the interviewer. At this juncture, the Reporter would ask Shepard to sum up his/her motivation and determination in fighting the Reapers, about the revelations and warning of the future The Child tried to sway him too, if he believed it, what could be done to stop it, and so forth. 

Also, depending on what characters lived or died the Reporter would comment on what has happened to them in the intervening year, namely Wrex's new progressive Krogan Government, Garrus being named the New Primarch, Liara T'Soni fading from public view, Ashley/Kaidan becoming prominent military figures/leaders, Tali and the Quarians working with the Geth to rebuild Rannoch as well as opening their reclaimed world to refugees displaced by the War (much as they were 500 years before) and so on. 

The Reporter will also inquire as to what Shepard has been doing/will plan to do, and here the Player can make a call much as was given at the end of Dragon Age Origins. Help rebuild the new Alliance Government, perhaps even accept offers to lead the new Government, travel the Galaxy to search out new threats, or even settle down with their respective Love Interest. 

When the Interview concludes the Interview we cut to Shepard standing at and observation port exactly like the one we first saw him/her looking out at the opening of ME1 (coming full circle) Beyond the viewport we see ships from every race, giving a sense that whatever comes the races will stand together. Shepard's lasting legacy. If Shepard's LI is still alive we here them speak off screen 

"Ready to go?" They ask. 

"Yes." 

The LI then asks, "What do you think will happen. To all of this?" They ask. 

"I wish I could say for sure. But, whatever happens, it will be our future to choose." 

Then we cue up some Heroic music like was heard in the end credits to ME1 (or maybe some Two Steps From Hell, whatever's best) and we get one last shot of The Normandy flying off, the future, and the stars, open to a million possibilities. 

That is an ending I would have liked to have seen. Maybe *too* happy for some, but that's what the previous games made we think we would get. So, fingers crossed something like that is on the near horizon.
   

Modifié par glenboy24, 12 mars 2012 - 04:12 .

[Shadeart]

Keep up the good work! That something worth fighting for!

[Zpardi]

I'm confused. How are these ideas anything different than what a lot of people here already said? Except for being in blog form?
Other than that, the "most popular ending suggestion" could never work with it also being free. I think "not much programming" is an understatement. We know it would be the fair thing to do, all things considered, but I don't think anyone here can actually expect a decent DLC ending to come free, should it come at all. It's the perfect opportunity to cash in.

Because the devs are more likely to take note of ideas from a reputable source like Forbes as opposed to a guy called "Minotaurbuttsecks."

Modifié par Zpardi, 12 mars 2012 - 04:14 .

[Punk4Real]

Zpardi wrote...

Because the devs are more likely to take note of ideas from a reputable source like Forbes as opposed to a guy called "Minotaurbuttsecks."

LMAO! Tell me about it haha

[PlasmaCannon]

They got the ending right in ME 2, i wouldn't say the human reaper was the best boss. But, we were able to actually acquire all our squad mates loyalties and it helped them to all survive the final "Suicide mission". If we got to decide if Shepard lived or died on a suicide mission, why cant we choose a decent ending for the finale instead of plot holes big enough to fly the citadel through and then some. Mass effect 3 is is to the series as "Revenge of the Fallen" is to Transformers.

[ironcreed2]

Don't worry. Keep on begging and I am sure that they will be more than happy to SELL you another ending. After seeing what happens a split second before the credits roll, I am sure there will be some DLC concerning what happens with the Normandy, but I'll spoil no more for those who have not yet seen the ending. Let's just say that it screams, "Stay tuned!" instead of giving proper closure. Put it this way, glad I rented it.

[Sneaky Monkey]

Zpardi wrote...
Because the devs are more likely to take note of ideas from a reputable source like Forbes as opposed to a guy called "Minotaurbuttsecks."

Wow, that was good. Haha.

I absolutely loved Mass Effect 3. I must've gotten lucky in avoiding most bugs and glitches that other people found. Watching the ending, I was getting more and more excited to see what was going to happen. And then... I saw the "best" ending... and, from what I've seen, it's basically the same as every other one of them. I didn't know what to say. It just didn't seem right. I was waiting for something else to happen. Something more along with Mass Effect, something to give me more choice, to have a proper ending for my Shepard, but it never came. I just turned my 360 off and sat there for a little while. I tried to play something else, but I just didn't want to. I honestly thing the disappointment from that ending has soured games for me, at least for a little while.

So yeah, I'm all for Bioware releasing some kind of DLC, an Epilogue or an "it was all a hallucination".

[SolidBeast]

Zpardi wrote...

I'm confused. How are these ideas anything different than what a lot of people here already said? Except for being in blog form?
Other than that, the "most popular ending suggestion" could never work with it also being free. I think "not much programming" is an understatement. We know it would be the fair thing to do, all things considered, but I don't think anyone here can actually expect a decent DLC ending to come free, should it come at all. It's the perfect opportunity to cash in.

Because the devs are more likely to take note of ideas from a reputable source like Forbes as opposed to a guy called "Minotaurbuttsecks."

That means little if they will *only* take note from a reputable source (note: this is one guy, the rest ridicule us).
We are strong in numbers, and many disappointed, very well contructed opinions have been read by the devs (and subsequently locked). They have already taken note of where we stand by now. This just helps add pressure (not saying it's not very welcome).

Modifié par SolidBeast, 12 mars 2012 - 04:28 .

[Eradyn]

Checked the updated OP. Glad to see things are still picking up steam. I hope BW is planning something to make things right. Also, since the OP is now adding links to people's ideas and suggestions for additional endings, I would humbly suggest they include a link to the ending I have in my signature. No, it's not my idea, but I do feel it's one of the best suggestions out there and it deserves to be read and considered. Seems quite popular, at least, if the current poll results are to be believed.

[mokponobi]

Zpardi wrote...

I'm confused. How are these ideas anything different than what a lot of people here already said? Except for being in blog form?
Other than that, the "most popular ending suggestion" could never work with it also being free. I think "not much programming" is an understatement. We know it would be the fair thing to do, all things considered, but I don't think anyone here can actually expect a decent DLC ending to come free, should it come at all. It's the perfect opportunity to cash in.

Because the devs are more likely to take note of ideas from a reputable source like Forbes as opposed to a guy called "Minotaurbuttsecks."

This made me LOL...

[Broham]

glenboy24 wrote...

I'm definitely in support of the campaign to change the ending to something it *should* have been in the first place; while I respect that others disagree, it nice to see, more and more, that it really is the majority, not just a very vocal minority, that is standing firm in their resolve to see ME3 completed with everything that was promised as well as maintaining the tone of the entire series and the conclusions of the two previous entries. 

The consistent excuse that "It's a War Story, so it shouldn't have a good ending," is really irrelevant and just flat out flawed. Mass Effect has always been a heroic action adventure and science fiction epic, it's never tried to be overly realistic in it's portrayal of the "realities" of War. Sacrifices and losses, of course. But an ending which forces a tragic narrative conclusion seemingly for the mere sake of somber pathos just flies in the face of everything the series has done to this point. 

Anyway, that's neither here nor there; my initial intent was to simply say that while the ending featured on Page 1 certainly is of better quality and substance then what the writers chose to go with, it's still not what I want to see, at least in part. What I would have really loved is seeing not only the races, against all odds, Rally, defeat the Reapers and eliminate the threat once and for all, preserving everything remaining (not loosing half of the advanced technology, Relays included, in the Universe as a giant MacGuffin) and finally being free to decide their own fate as a whole, not cut off from one another. Also, of course, seeing Shepard come out the other end, much as we saw in the climax of ME1 after Sovereign's remains wreck the Citadel Tower. 

What would have been an awesome Epilogue, allowing the players one last experience with choice in the narrative: 

Cut to a year later, we see news footage of various worlds across the galaxy, including Earth, undergoing massive reconstruction efforts, with all the races aiding each other where they can in a strong effort to maintain the new bonds of peace and cooperation Shepard (we) forged among them. 

You then hear a Voice Over, and it's either Diana Allers or Al-Jilani (if you finally called her on her BS once and for all and got her to open up to you) saying something along the lines of, "As recovery efforts continue across the galaxy, with Alliance races continuing to work hand in hand to rebuild anew after the devastation, we stop to reflect on what has been lost, and, most importantly, what has been gained.” 

“How did this terrible war come to pass and how was it resolved. Greatest of all, what comes next? To answer that we turn to the architect of the Galaxy's resounding, and seemingly impossible, victory against the greatest threat intelligent life has ever known." 

The Camera then pans and we see our Shepard, looking slightly older (the cost of his long fight evident on his/her face) sitting across from the interviewer. At this juncture, the Reporter would ask Shepard to sum up his/her motivation and determination in fighting the Reapers, about the revelations and warning of the future The Child tried to sway him too, if he believed it, what could be done to stop it, and so forth. 

Also, depending on what characters lived or died the Reporter would comment on what has happened to them in the intervening year, namely Wrex's new progressive Krogan Government, Garrus being named the New Primarch, Liara T'Soni fading from public view, Ashley/Kaidan becoming prominent military figures/leaders, Tali and the Quarians working with the Geth to rebuild Rannoch as well as opening their reclaimed world to refugees displaced by the War (much as they were 500 years before) and so on. 

The Reporter will also inquire as to what Shepard has been doing/will plan to do, and here the Player can make a call much as was given at the end of Dragon Age Origins. Help rebuild the new Alliance Government, perhaps even accept offers to lead the new Government, travel the Galaxy to search out new threats, or even settle down with their respective Love Interest. 

When the Interview concludes the Interview we cut to Shepard standing at and observation port exactly like the one we first saw him/her looking out at the opening of ME1 (coming full circle) Beyond the viewport we see ships from every race, giving a sense that whatever comes the races will stand together. Shepard's lasting legacy. If Shepard's LI is still alive we here them speak off screen 

"Ready to go?" They ask. 

"Yes." 

The LI then asks, "What do you think will happen. To all of this?" They ask. 

"I wish I could say for sure. But, whatever happens, it will be our future to choose." 

Then we cue up some Heroic music like was heard in the end credits to ME1 (or maybe some Two Steps From Hell, whatever's best) and we get one last shot of The Normandy flying off, the future, and the stars, open to a million possibilities. 

That is an ending I would have liked to have seen. Maybe *too* happy for some, but that's what the previous games made we think we would get. So, fingers crossed something like that is on the near horizon.
   

Keeping fingers crossed that in some months after Bioware has combed through these threads, taken notes
and ironed things out; that we'll be graced with a cumulation of endings that grant definitive closure.

This ending is fine.
Bioware's original ending is fine.
Arkis' ending is fine.

Tie it all together and give us some choice. Default RGB alone isn't cutting it

[Punk4Real]

Added new links to the first post!
Whoa, this is blowing up everywhere!

[Theodoro]

This is awesome, keep this up! It's better to have hope that BioWare would do something than admit defeat and abandon this otherwise amazing saga for good.

[Onyx 4]

greengoron89 wrote...

Argetfalcon wrote...

Tali's picture also needs to be redone or removed completely.

Bad writing is one thing but THAT WAS JUST LAZY

Lawlz. I wonder how many people know that the Tali picture is just a shooped stock photo BW randomly found on the Internet.

That's a fail.

No gray skin.... NO YELLOW GLOWING EYES?!?!?! So, is EVERY Mass Effect (1) Character model a lie?!!?!?!

I'm sorry, BW, but... No way her face mask only tinted her face like that with the lighting and such, and compared to how the rest of the inside of the helmet looked.... If her face/skin wasn't gray, it was damn close. Not that crap in the photo.

If you cant say the light or the tint of the visor made her skin look like that then there is no reason it wouldn't be like that!!! None! And we all know and agree that Quarians have glowing eyes! What the hell happened there!?

Modifié par Onyx 4, 12 mars 2012 - 05:28 .

[Shadeart]

Even in italy http://www.tomshw.it...no/36365/1.html they're talking about that.