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[JeffZero]

greengoron89 wrote...

Argetfalcon wrote...

Tali's picture also needs to be redone or removed completely.

Bad writing is one thing but THAT WAS JUST LAZY

Lawlz. I wonder how many people know that the Tali picture is just a shooped stock photo BW randomly found on the Internet.

That's a fail.

It's a party foul, but it was public domain. It's what they chose to go with. It doesn't bother me. It'd be nice to get some comment on that in the future though. Just like, 'yeah, we just couldn't come up with anything. So yeah, we took it.'

[Naughty Bear]

nitsaj wrote...

Naughty Bear wrote...

The game is perfect and i hope the ending does not put people off what i loved is the tone starts to change from signs of hope and maybe a chance of winning which quickly descends to rapidly dminishing hope and desperation.

It's quite scary.

I question your ability to critique games objectively. NO GAME IS PERFECT. I will go one step further. NOTHING is perfect. This game has some glaring problems aside from from ashes, such as bugs that stop people from progress, importing faces from past ME title, to glitches of falling through maps, stuck in barriers, questionable creative efforts from photoshop stock photos to blantant rip offs of other titles, to plotholes Perfect you say? No, but it is still a good game. Please refraim from commenting any further until you can address this matter with some sort of objectivity.

I'd say i am quite realistic and hopefully, not too biased. Maybe perfect was not the right word but i did enjoy Mass Effect 3, you blew my comment completely out of proportions, Mass Effect 3 is not a 9 or 10 out of 10 for me. A good 7.5 or 8.

Mass Effect 3 definitely has it's problems. Auto dialogue is one, choices have not effect, a much more focus on combat, loadings the list goes on.

I never encountered any issues with 'From Ashes' so i can't say much about that.

Modifié par Naughty Bear, 11 mars 2012 - 11:05 .

[Naughty Bear]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

Naughty Bear wrote...

This, Bioware deserve high praise for the journey from ME1 to ME3 and shouldn't let the negativity bring them down, everyone has enjoyed the game so far. Atleast the majority have, Bioware have worked hard and it payed off but the ending is a joke.

This "majority" you speak of... is this the same majority that has Mass Effect 3 as the "Highest Returned Game in One Week" award at GameStop?

Just wondering because "vocal minority" and "silent majority" is kinda out the window when a poll has 19,000 people against the endings, and only hundreds for the endings. Along with people returning the game to GameStop at alarming rates.....

I would go so far as to say the MAJORITY of players are not happy with the game, for whatever reasons.

You serious? Highest returned game in one week?

[AdmiralCheez]

Bonaven wrote...

there's nothing wrong with the endings and one of them actually managed to make me cry (well almost)

There's actually a lot wrong with them:

1. The reasons for the Reapers existing is a contradiction that severely clashes with the overarching themes presented not only throughout the franchise, but within ME3 itself.

2. What happens to the Normandy and crew happens without explanation or context, going so far as to bring dead characters back to life, putting them in places where they couldn't possibly have gotten in the time it took for the endgame to happen.

3. While the implications of Shepard's final choice are huge, the player is forced to make them without context, and the actual in-game outcomes of these choices are largely the same.

4. That whole war asset thing turned out to be a bunch of hooey, as the differences between the "best" and "worst" endings are insignificant.  In the face of the Suicide Mission in ME2, this is laughable.

5. The Stargazer scene is poorly executed and adds nothing to the story.

seems people wanted to see an old shep with kids living in a big house as Liara serves him the food.

Let me tell you, good sir or madam, that this sort of thing was the last thing I wanted.  What I really wanted was closure, a feeling of satisfaction as the credits rolled, that in the end all that sacrifice was worth it, that things would finally start to heal.  I'd lost close friends, I'd let entire worlds burn, I'd gone to hell and back, but finally the galaxy was free to choose its own future, even if Shepard and Co. never got to be a part of it.  The worst was over, and I had made a difference.

The endings tried to do this, but they failed.  They came flying way out of left field with little to no explanation, their presentation brief and sloppy, the few facts they offered contradicting one another as well as the truths and themes presented in the rest of the franchise.  I was left feeling cheated, confused, and hurt for no damned reason.  I felt like a failure, even though Shepard had technically won, and I felt like Bioware had negated everything the series had stood for.

Bioware tripped at the finish line.  However, they ran the rest of the marathon so well that the fans would like them to take that last lap again.  Hell, most of us would pay for them to try again.  Because we know they can do better.

[Drake_1000]

I want some official answers, nothing in a week ?! Most of us are behind you since 5 years, the less you can do is take 5 minutes of our time to tell us what you are going to do.

[xsdob]

I'll believe we'll get a new ending when I start seeing trailers for star wars episode 7.

[JeffZero]

Drake_1000 wrote...

I want some official answers, nothing in a week ?! Most of us are behind you since 5 years, the less you can do is take 5 minutes of our time to tell us what you are going to do.

They certainly won't begin commenting until the game has been shipped worldwide.

[CDRSkyShepard]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Bonaven wrote...

there's nothing wrong with the endings and one of them actually managed to make me cry (well almost)

There's actually a lot wrong with them:

1. The reasons for the Reapers existing is a contradiction that severely clashes with the overarching themes presented not only throughout the franchise, but within ME3 itself.

2. What happens to the Normandy and crew happens without explanation or context, going so far as to bring dead characters back to life, putting them in places where they couldn't possibly have gotten in the time it took for the endgame to happen.

3. While the implications of Shepard's final choice are huge, the player is forced to make them without context, and the actual in-game outcomes of these choices are largely the same.

4. That whole war asset thing turned out to be a bunch of hooey, as the differences between the "best" and "worst" endings are insignificant.  In the face of the Suicide Mission in ME2, this is laughable.

5. The Stargazer scene is poorly executed and adds nothing to the story.

seems people wanted to see an old shep with kids living in a big house as Liara serves him the food.

Let me tell you, good sir or madam, that this sort of thing was the last thing I wanted.  What I really wanted was closure, a feeling of satisfaction as the credits rolled, that in the end all that sacrifice was worth it, that things would finally start to heal.  I'd lost close friends, I'd let entire worlds burn, I'd gone to hell and back, but finally the galaxy was free to choose its own future, even if Shepard and Co. never got to be a part of it.  The worst was over, and I had made a difference.

The endings tried to do this, but they failed.  They came flying way out of left field with little to no explanation, their presentation brief and sloppy, the few facts they offered contradicting one another as well as the truths and themes presented in the rest of the franchise.  I was left feeling cheated, confused, and hurt for no damned reason.  I felt like a failure, even though Shepard had technically won, and I felt like Bioware had negated everything the series had stood for.

Bioware tripped at the finish line.  However, they ran the rest of the marathon so well that the fans would like them to take that last lap again.  Hell, most of us would pay for them to try again.  Because we know they can do better.

Cheez, can I quote you in what I'm writing on this? Because the points you made are spot-on perfect.

[Hunter of Legends]

As I've noted, Mass Effect should have multiple vastly different endings.

This is our story, we should get to chose how it ends.

[JeffZero]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

Naughty Bear wrote...

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

Naughty Bear wrote...

This, Bioware deserve high praise for the journey from ME1 to ME3 and shouldn't let the negativity bring them down, everyone has enjoyed the game so far. Atleast the majority have, Bioware have worked hard and it payed off but the ending is a joke.

This "majority" you speak of... is this the same majority that has Mass Effect 3 as the "Highest Returned Game in One Week" award at GameStop?

Just wondering because "vocal minority" and "silent majority" is kinda out the window when a poll has 19,000 people against the endings, and only hundreds for the endings. Along with people returning the game to GameStop at alarming rates.....

I would go so far as to say the MAJORITY of players are not happy with the game, for whatever reasons.

You serious? Highest returned game in one week?

I'm a pretty laid back guy with a pretty silly sense of humor. And it pains me to tell you... I am not kidding.

Do you have a link? I'm curious.

[Farbautisonn]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

This "majority" you speak of... is this the same majority that has Mass Effect 3 as the "Highest Returned Game in One Week" award at GameStop?

Got a source on that ? That would be interesting reading and prolly be a nice tool to drive something home to a few Bioware / EA reps?

[JeffZero]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

Cheez, can I quote you in what I'm writing on this? Because the points you made are spot-on perfect.

She's pretty good about that. She's a War Asset for the campaign.

OKAY. SUDDEN FRAMING IDEA.

SKY, EVERYONE. CITE MEDIA ATTENTION, WELL-WRITTEN ANALYSES AND THE LIKE AS WAR ASSETS. DO IT.

[JeffZero]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Drake_1000 wrote...

I want some official answers, nothing in a week ?! Most of us are behind you since 5 years, the less you can do is take 5 minutes of our time to tell us what you are going to do.

They certainly won't begin commenting until the game has been shipped worldwide.

I have to say, a "We're going to change the endings" announcement would pretty much be the best birthday present imaginable for me.

Turning 43 shortly?

[Drake_1000]

JeffZero wrote...

Drake_1000 wrote...

I want some official answers, nothing in a week ?! Most of us are behind you since 5 years, the less you can do is take 5 minutes of our time to tell us what you are going to do.

They certainly won't begin commenting until the game has been shipped worldwide.

And what ? We should stay quiet another week because 100K japanese dont have their game ? The main core of the Bioware fanbase start to being really upset, the more they wait the more it get worst.

[AdmiralCheez]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

Cheez, can I quote you in what I'm writing on this? Because the points you made are spot-on perfect.

Go for it, babe.  Just keep in mind that dozens of people have made those points before--I'm not the first one to list those problems.

[FabricatedWookie]

Lovereignoer wrote...

Man, I was really dissapointed with the ending. The last 5 minutes of the game felt like somebody killed my whole family, and then forced me to eat them.

In other words, the reapers didn't "win", but they won.

[JeffZero]

Drake_1000 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Drake_1000 wrote...

I want some official answers, nothing in a week ?! Most of us are behind you since 5 years, the less you can do is take 5 minutes of our time to tell us what you are going to do.

They certainly won't begin commenting until the game has been shipped worldwide.

And what ? We should stay quiet another week because 100K japanese dont have their game ? The main core of the Bioware fanbase start to being really upset, the more they wait the more it get worst.

It's disrespectful to the Japanese consumer base for the developers to begin speaking forthright about the game's final moments publically before they have the opportunity to play the game themselves. Furthermore, whether you agree or disagree with me, the developers feel that way. That or they're using it as an excuse while planning their response. Either way, nothing changes.

[nitsaj]

Naughty Bear wrote...

nitsaj wrote...

Naughty Bear wrote...

The game is perfect and i hope the ending does not put people off what i loved is the tone starts to change from signs of hope and maybe a chance of winning which quickly descends to rapidly dminishing hope and desperation.

It's quite scary.

I question your ability to critique games objectively. NO GAME IS PERFECT. I will go one step further. NOTHING is perfect. This game has some glaring problems aside from from ashes, such as bugs that stop people from progress, importing faces from past ME title, to glitches of falling through maps, stuck in barriers, questionable creative efforts from photoshop stock photos to blantant rip offs of other titles, to plotholes Perfect you say? No, but it is still a good game. Please refraim from commenting any further until you can address this matter with some sort of objectivity.

I'd say i am quite realistic and hopefully, not too biased. Maybe perfect was not the right word but i did enjoy Mass Effect 3, you blew my comment completely out of proportions, Mass Effect 3 is not a 9 or 10 out of 10 for me. A good 7.5 or 8.

Mass Effect 3 definitely has it's problems. Auto dialogue is one, choices have not effect, a much more focus on combat, loadings the list goes on.

I never encountered any issues with 'From Ashes' so i can't say much about that.

I did not blow it out of porportion. I read what you typed as you typed it. I'm not reading into it any further than what i see on the screen in front of me. This isn't a conversation where i can guage your true senses, and as such you along with other here should be aware that what you type is what others see.

Now when you voice your opinion in this matter, people/I can respect and have a health debate, thus ading to the conversation rather than pointless bantering.

But now seeing this edited statment, I agree. The game's good. I think like you a lot of reviewers are skirting the problems. When you voice them like you have and tally them up you can see how this game is NOT perfect...in contrary with what they are stating.

Modifié par nitsaj, 11 mars 2012 - 11:13 .

[CDRSkyShepard]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

Cheez, can I quote you in what I'm writing on this? Because the points you made are spot-on perfect.

Go for it, babe.  Just keep in mind that dozens of people have made those points before--I'm not the first one to list those problems.

I know, but I'm gonna start collecting direct quotes, especially the well-organized ones. While I have seen those points before, I haven't seen them broken down like that. Organization is what I'm looking for. 

JEFF, I WILL LABEL THE QUOTES AS 'WAR ASSETS!!!' IT'S AS GOOD AS DONE!

[AdmiralCheez]

FabricatedWookie wrote...

In other words, the reapers didn't "win", but they won.

That's what it felt like :/

Bioware, are you trying to teach us a lesson here?  We have real life for that, you know.

[thatdude90210]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...This "majority" you speak of... is this the same majority that has Mass Effect 3 as the "Highest Returned Game in One Week" award at GameStop?

Where did you see this? Just curious.

I bought the PC CE and a regular edition on the 360. I played the PC version and was going to go through the 360 version afterward. I no longer have that desire. I'm sending the 360 version back unopened.

The ending did accomplish one thing. It cured some Mass effect addictions.