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To quote the Kotaku article
"What right does someone have to demand changes to the end of a story they did not write—and as this would, assuredly, be released as downloadable content—expect all of that labor for free? Because they'll refuse to endorse a product they've already bought?"

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

5. The Stargazer scene is poorly executed and adds nothing to the story.
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In fact, I'd say it cheapens it greatly.

Yeah, when I got that I was just like "Really? Are you serious?" Then I remembered the rest of what I'd just seen and realized they were.

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Cheez, can I quote you in what I'm writing on this? Because the points you made are spot-on perfect.


She's pretty good about that. She's a War Asset for the campaign.

OKAY. SUDDEN FRAMING IDEA.

SKY, EVERYONE. CITE MEDIA ATTENTION, WELL-WRITTEN ANALYSES AND THE LIKE AS WAR ASSETS. DO IT.

 Lol. War Asset unlocked: AdmiralCheez


And when you boot it up for information it's got that Wrex avatar and everything.

Someone needs to make a video where this happens.:lol:

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Hunter of Legends wrote...

As I've noted, Mass Effect should have multiple vastly different endings.

This is our story, we should get to chose how it ends.

Sorry, I wasn't aware you were on the writing team.


AdmiralCheez wrote...

FabricatedWookie wrote...

In other words, the reapers didn't "win", but they won.

That's what it felt like :/

Bioware, are you trying to teach us a lesson here?  We have real life for that, you know.

I'd say the endings staying as they are would be an excellent real life lesson for you as well.

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Lenimph wrote...

To quote the Kotaku article
"What right does someone have to demand changes to the end of a story they did not write—and as this would, assuredly, be released as downloadable content—expect all of that labor for free? Because they'll refuse to endorse a product they've already bought?"


^ That.

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Look IF they could do it for Fallout 3 they can defiantly do it for Mass Effect 3

#132
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 i support this. i know its all about money but if  you skrew your fans then you wont be making money. 

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Dark Wyn wrote...

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4000 people signed a petition and it was sent to Bioware, i hope they will take action


And at least 20.000 people on the BSN want a better ending. 88% on a pool. I think it means something.


Yeah, we truly have something epic growing here.  I have hope something good will come of this.


Of course we are ! Join the fleet ! Maybe we cant win this fight but if we stand together it can work !

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Punk4Real, thanks for bringing this to our attention. Four more sites? You're a regular Sherlock Holmes!

The poll has grown to over 20K people in only a couple days and still only 2% like the ending(s). 2%!!!! That's effectively zero.

Considering your sample size, that's effectively 2%.

/lol statistics


Heh, the poll is probably not a representative distribution either, but statistically speaking given a 2% like rate with over 20K voters, it would be almost impossible for the majority of all ME3 to like the endings.

It would seem BioWare would like the majority of purchasers to like the ending. That's just good business.

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 Lol. War Asset unlocked: AdmiralCheez


And when you boot it up for information it's got that Wrex avatar and everything.

Can I be worth 100 points?  I'd like to be worth at least 75.

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This is exciting. Maybe there will be a DLC, but I can't see it being free on Xbox. It's Microsoft, after all.

Modifié par The Big Nothing, 11 mars 2012 - 11:29 .


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Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

As I've noted, Mass Effect should have multiple vastly different endings.

This is our story, we should get to chose how it ends.

Sorry, I wasn't aware you were on the writing team.


AdmiralCheez wrote...

FabricatedWookie wrote...

In other words, the reapers didn't "win", but they won.

That's what it felt like :/

Bioware, are you trying to teach us a lesson here?  We have real life for that, you know.

I'd say the endings staying as they are would be an excellent real life lesson for you as well.

You know, if someone had told me a week ago that Kaiser would be defending Bioware and Cheez would be attacking them, I'd have said they were crazy.

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Cthulhu42 wrote...

SolidBeast wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

5. The Stargazer scene is poorly executed and adds nothing to the story.
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In fact, I'd say it cheapens it greatly.

Yeah, when I got that I was just like "Really? Are you serious?" Then I remembered the rest of what I'd just seen and realized they were.


I was pretty dumbstruck. Doesn't help that I thought the ending was a dream sequence from the point where Shep gets up from the ground at the beam. That was just an additional slap in the face afterwards.

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

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jreezy wrote...

 Lol. War Asset unlocked: AdmiralCheez


And when you boot it up for information it's got that Wrex avatar and everything.

Can I be worth 100 points?  I'd like to be worth at least 75.


You're worth 74 out-of-the-box but there's a DLC that boosts you to 110.

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

jreezy wrote...

 Lol. War Asset unlocked: AdmiralCheez


And when you boot it up for information it's got that Wrex avatar and everything.

Can I be worth 100 points?  I'd like to be worth at least 75.

You're a krogan...with a tophat.
Already you're worth 150 points.

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Cthulhu42 wrote...

You know, if someone had told me a week ago that Kaiser would be defending Bioware and Cheez would be attacking them, I'd have said they were crazy.


Desperate times call for Kaiser Shepards.

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Punk4Real wrote...

Various sites have begun reporting on the general fan unrest regarding the endings!
We're finally getting some god damn attention, lets keep at it folks! 

Digital Spy

- Destructoid

- Game Front

- Kotaku


Owen Good at kotaku thinks we're a bunch of morons (he wrote the article on twitter) and said we're in line with "Battlefield" fans. As a BF3 fan/community member and a Bioware community member, his comments really pissed me off.


Here is his twitter 
https://twitter.com/#!/owengood 

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

People who haven't played ME3: OH MY GOD WHAT A BUNCH OF WHINERS

People who have played ME3: HOLY BALLS THAT WAS BAD SOMEBODY FIX THIS


Yup.

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Cthulhu42 wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

As I've noted, Mass Effect should have multiple vastly different endings.

This is our story, we should get to chose how it ends.

Sorry, I wasn't aware you were on the writing team.


AdmiralCheez wrote...

FabricatedWookie wrote...

In other words, the reapers didn't "win", but they won.

That's what it felt like :/

Bioware, are you trying to teach us a lesson here?  We have real life for that, you know.

I'd say the endings staying as they are would be an excellent real life lesson for you as well.

You know, if someone had told me a week ago that Kaiser would be defending Bioware and Cheez would be attacking them, I'd have said they were crazy.

So, I'm not the only one surprised by that.

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Lenimph wrote...

To quote the Kotaku article
"What right does someone have to demand changes to the end of a story they did not write—and as this would, assuredly, be released as downloadable content—expect all of that labor for free? Because they'll refuse to endorse a product they've already bought?"


The problem with this comment is that this author negates how consumers actually has a say on every product. If the consumers don't want it, it doesn't get sold, and if it doesn't get sold, company loses money, money goes, jobs go...etc. Of course this is a simplified view, but a consumers review matters...regardless if the consumer didn't manufacture the product themselves...Tho that would negate the point of paying someone for goods.

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Kaiser Shepard wrote...

I'd say the endings staying as they are would be an excellent real life lesson for you as well.

The only thing I've learned here is to not throw so much time and money into a single branch of the corporate enterainment sector.

Failure?  Disappointment?  Loss?  I've learned that.  Come to terms with it.  But it's fun to play a game every now and then where you can tell the inevitable doom of everything to go choke on its own dick.

If games were just like real life, there'd be no point in playing them.

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This is turning into a bigger F-up than Mass Effect: Deception.


Don't dare speak that name!!!! It's driving my mind insane!

Seriously, it's funny though that a couple - Kotaku - especially want to paint this as though we literally just want everything changed to suit us, when those who do support simply want more variety as was promised. Many have even said - I would agree - that if they did make an epilogue DLC they'd pay for it. 

But yeah, currently sits at more than 20,000 in support, I think.

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You know, if someone had told me a week ago that Kaiser would be defending Bioware and Cheez would be attacking them, I'd have said they were crazy.


Desperate times call for Kaiser Shepards.

But he's on the evil side...

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The ending was so bad, it created a MASS EFFECT.

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I found a thread with a pretty sensible alternate ending:

http://social.biowar...91127/1#9791413

It's in the spoiler section, though.