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[Reofeir]

magicalpoop wrote...

Punk4Real wrote...

Various sites have begun reporting on the general fan unrest regarding the endings!
We're finally getting some god damn attention, lets keep at it folks! 

- Digital Spy

- Destructoid

- Game Front

- Kotaku

Owen Good at kotaku thinks we're a bunch of morons (he wrote the article on twitter) and said we're in line with "Battlefield" fans. As a BF3 fan/community member and a Bioware community member, his comments really pissed me off.


Here is his twitter 
https://twitter.com/#!/owengood 

Now picture this: Owen good is now earth, not believing the reapers at first.
BSN is now the reapers...attacking "earth". 



Besides the bad joke, do not attack him. Attacking him for his comments makes everyone else look bad.

Modifié par Zenor, 11 mars 2012 - 11:30 .

[Argetfalcon]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Bonaven wrote...

there's nothing wrong with the endings and one of them actually managed to make me cry (well almost)

There's actually a lot wrong with them:

1. The reasons for the Reapers existing is a contradiction that severely clashes with the overarching themes presented not only throughout the franchise, but within ME3 itself.

2. What happens to the Normandy and crew happens without explanation or context, going so far as to bring dead characters back to life, putting them in places where they couldn't possibly have gotten in the time it took for the endgame to happen.

3. While the implications of Shepard's final choice are huge, the player is forced to make them without context, and the actual in-game outcomes of these choices are largely the same.

4. That whole war asset thing turned out to be a bunch of hooey, as the differences between the "best" and "worst" endings are insignificant.  In the face of the Suicide Mission in ME2, this is laughable.

5. The Stargazer scene is poorly executed and adds nothing to the story.

seems people wanted to see an old shep with kids living in a big house as Liara serves him the food.

Let me tell you, good sir or madam, that this sort of thing was the last thing I wanted.  What I really wanted was closure, a feeling of satisfaction as the credits rolled, that in the end all that sacrifice was worth it, that things would finally start to heal.  I'd lost close friends, I'd let entire worlds burn, I'd gone to hell and back, but finally the galaxy was free to choose its own future, even if Shepard and Co. never got to be a part of it.  The worst was over, and I had made a difference.

The endings tried to do this, but they failed.  They came flying way out of left field with little to no explanation, their presentation brief and sloppy, the few facts they offered contradicting one another as well as the truths and themes presented in the rest of the franchise.  I was left feeling cheated, confused, and hurt for no damned reason.  I felt like a failure, even though Shepard had technically won, and I felt like Bioware had negated everything the series had stood for.

Bioware tripped at the finish line.  However, they ran the rest of the marathon so well that the fans would like them to take that last lap again.  Hell, most of us would pay for them to try again.  Because we know they can do better.

wow you should be a writer

[Kelkimhr]

I want a very public apology, and I want a DLC with the real ending. I would even pay $5 to get it. Until that happens I will NEVER buy another Bioware product again.

Modifié par Kelkimhr, 11 mars 2012 - 11:31 .

[ADLegend21]

Hunter of Legends wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

People who haven't played ME3: OH MY GOD WHAT A BUNCH OF WHINERS

People who have played ME3: HOLY BALLS THAT ENDING WAS BAD SOMEBODY FIX THIS

I'd say 95% of us think the game is amazing.

The ending needs tweaks.

^This. The game is perfect up until the conduit. that's when it all goes to hell.

[Almostfaceman]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

As I've noted, Mass Effect should have multiple vastly different endings.

This is our story, we should get to chose how it ends.

Sorry, I wasn't aware you were on the writing team.

AdmiralCheez wrote...

FabricatedWookie wrote...

In other words, the reapers didn't "win", but they won.

That's what it felt like :/

Bioware, are you trying to teach us a lesson here?  We have real life for that, you know.

I'd say the endings staying as they are would be an excellent real life lesson for you as well.

It's interesting you're making this personal, when all we're really asking for is a car with four tires on it instead of two. We're consumers, they make a product. We're asking for that product. I'm even offering to buy it. Let's keep this about the topic, and not about the people. Okaythanks.

[JeffZero]

Zenor wrote...

magicalpoop wrote...

Punk4Real wrote...

Various sites have begun reporting on the general fan unrest regarding the endings!
We're finally getting some god damn attention, lets keep at it folks! 

- Digital Spy

- Destructoid

- Game Front

- Kotaku

Owen Good at kotaku thinks we're a bunch of morons (he wrote the article on twitter) and said we're in line with "Battlefield" fans. As a BF3 fan/community member and a Bioware community member, his comments really pissed me off.


Here is his twitter 
https://twitter.com/#!/owengood 

Now picture this: Owen good is now earth, not believing the reapers at first.
BSN is now the reapers...attacking "earth". 



Besides the bad joke, do not attack him. Attacking him for his comments makes everyone else look bad.

Seconded. Not the way to go with this people. It will be remembered in future article coverage and it will color perception in very sour ways.

[The Big Nothing]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

I'd say the endings staying as they are would be an excellent real life lesson for you as well.

The only thing I've learned here is to not throw so much time and money into a single branch of the corporate enterainment sector.

Failure?  Disappointment?  Loss?  I've learned that.  Come to terms with it.  But it's fun to play a game every now and then where you can tell the inevitable doom of everything to go choke on its own dick.

If games were just like real life, there'd be no point in playing them.

Sure there would be. RPGs are essentially living and choosing as someone else, mundane situation or not.

Modifié par The Big Nothing, 11 mars 2012 - 11:32 .

[nitefyre410]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Naughty Bear wrote...

It won't be long before you join us.

I honestly thought everyone was exaggerating. Boy was i wrong.

Same here.  I was defending the endings right up until I played the game.  I was all, "oh guys, don't worry--it only looks bad on paper, and there's a lot of meaning and depth behind it."

LOL NOPE

I feel kinda dumb now, tbh.

 

You feel bad imagine  how I feel... I did not read the leaks.. I had some kind of the faith that it was just over reaction... then  I was playing the game and oh man it was great then... the last 5 minutes... i get hit with a piece combo of.. 

Jump the Shark 
Diablos Ex Machina 
Reset Button Ending 
Gainix Ending .


 all in the span of 5 or minutes. 

I can deal with downer endings.  I love Evangelion and  that is a Downer Ending.  Mass Effect  was not a story that was building to that... even in 3  against all types of odds you get the feeling that you are  going pull this out.. You'll Earn  The happy ending.  Characters will die, but it will not be in vain.   Instead we these endings that trying to philosophical and fail horrible.   The Catalyst presents two different issues as 1  Organic vs Synthetic and Creator vs Progeny... with some really bad logic thrown on top because in the end  he became exactly what he wa trying to stop.  What makes it worst is that you know through your shepards experience and you own that its logic is so broken and Bioware makes you accept it.. in all 3 endings... you accept it.  It was like they got these ideas and did not even understand them... just threw them into ending  just to sound smart.   

[Teddie Sage]

Pheonix57 wrote...

If only we could get this in Game Informer...

Take the initiative, e-mail them.

[AdmiralCheez]

The Big Nothing wrote...

Sure there would be. RPGs are essentially living and choosing as someone else, mundane situation or not.

The fact that you are someone else means that they're not just like real life, doesn't it?

[Drake_1000]

Argetfalcon wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Bonaven wrote...

there's nothing wrong with the endings and one of them actually managed to make me cry (well almost)

There's actually a lot wrong with them:

1. The reasons for the Reapers existing is a contradiction that severely clashes with the overarching themes presented not only throughout the franchise, but within ME3 itself.

2. What happens to the Normandy and crew happens without explanation or context, going so far as to bring dead characters back to life, putting them in places where they couldn't possibly have gotten in the time it took for the endgame to happen.

3. While the implications of Shepard's final choice are huge, the player is forced to make them without context, and the actual in-game outcomes of these choices are largely the same.

4. That whole war asset thing turned out to be a bunch of hooey, as the differences between the "best" and "worst" endings are insignificant.  In the face of the Suicide Mission in ME2, this is laughable.

5. The Stargazer scene is poorly executed and adds nothing to the story.

seems people wanted to see an old shep with kids living in a big house as Liara serves him the food.

Let me tell you, good sir or madam, that this sort of thing was the last thing I wanted.  What I really wanted was closure, a feeling of satisfaction as the credits rolled, that in the end all that sacrifice was worth it, that things would finally start to heal.  I'd lost close friends, I'd let entire worlds burn, I'd gone to hell and back, but finally the galaxy was free to choose its own future, even if Shepard and Co. never got to be a part of it.  The worst was over, and I had made a difference.

The endings tried to do this, but they failed.  They came flying way out of left field with little to no explanation, their presentation brief and sloppy, the few facts they offered contradicting one another as well as the truths and themes presented in the rest of the franchise.  I was left feeling cheated, confused, and hurt for no damned reason.  I felt like a failure, even though Shepard had technically won, and I felt like Bioware had negated everything the series had stood for.

Bioware tripped at the finish line.  However, they ran the rest of the marathon so well that the fans would like them to take that last lap again.  Hell, most of us would pay for them to try again.  Because we know they can do better.

wow you should be a writer

Not sure its a good thing to be a writer right now.

[AlCord]

www.4players.de/4players.php/spielinfonews/Allgemein/20943/2094832/Mass_Effect_3|Das_Ende_gefaellt_vielen_Spielern_nicht.html

A critical German site (ME3 was rated 75%) also launched an article about the ending-riot.

Modifié par DerNix, 11 mars 2012 - 11:39 .

[ShadowHawk141]

I don't know if this has been posted allready but I just read this on Playstation Lifestyle.

BioWare “Truly Humbled” by Overwhelming Positive Feedback on Mass Effect 3
We have been truly humbled by the amazing response from FANS and critics for Mass Effect 3.

http://playstationli...-mass-effect-3/

They must not be reading the forums here anymore

[stbaler]

I really hope y'all are successful, because like I said earlier on a different post I loved the game but the endings were like meh. I have no intention of getting rid of the game one way or the other, but I really hope that this works. Good luck to all of you.

[Personality Disorder]

Urdnot Grim wrote...

Teddie Sage wrote...

Pheonix57 wrote...

If only we could get this in Game Informer...

Take the initiative, e-mail them.

I've been on user blogs there discussing this movement, and why, despite my absolute love of the game, I support it. I'm sure GI will discuss this eventually, since quite a few of them over there LOVE the ME series. 

Didn't GI give the game a perfect score? It seems to me, that is a pretty good sign they are at the very least OK with it.

[The Big Nothing]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

The Big Nothing wrote...

Sure there would be. RPGs are essentially living and choosing as someone else, mundane situation or not.

The fact that you are someone else means that they're not just like real life, doesn't it?

If you want to cut that thought to pieces.

[Maugrim]

Ok I tried tweeting Owen Good since atm kotaku is the biggest thing we have let's see if it helps.

‏ @Maugrimm wrote...

@owengood TY for covering ME3 ending debate. I feel the coverage was over the line in attitude, could we get a fair update. Willing to help

Maybe it all the others on twitter do something similar it'll help?

[factor89]

Drake_1000 wrote...

I want some official answers, nothing in a week ?! Most of us are behind you since 5 years, the less you can do is take 5 minutes of our time to tell us what you are going to do.

This ^ .

[Kaiser Shepard]

JeffZero wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

You know, if someone had told me a week ago that Kaiser would be defending Bioware and Cheez would be attacking them, I'd have said they were crazy.

Desperate times call for Kaiser Shepards.

One very specific man is all that stands between an amazing story, and the greatest threat to its brief existence. 

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

I'd say the endings staying as they are would be an excellent real life lesson for you as well.

The only thing I've learned here is to not throw so much time and money into a single branch of the corporate enterainment sector.

Failure?  Disappointment?  Loss?  I've learned that.  Come to terms with it.  But it's fun to play a game every now and then where you can tell the inevitable doom of everything to go choke on its own dick.

If games were just like real life, there'd be no point in playing them.

I fail to see the things you described apply to to this whole ending business.

Cthulhu42 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

You know, if someone had told me a week ago that Kaiser would be defending Bioware and Cheez would be attacking them, I'd have said they were crazy.

Desperate times call for Kaiser Shepards.

But he's on the evil side...

Oh, I'm not so bad... once you get to know me.

Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 11 mars 2012 - 11:42 .

[imwarrior15]

i thought i was supposed to feel good after buying a product for 60$ plus tax...... i didnt feel good at all at the ending, more like depressed, i couldn't sleep at all that night........ DISAPPOINTED!!!!!