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[CerberusSoldier]

what right does the games media have to say anything when the majority of them are Bioware supporters and backers especially the clowns at G4 and IGN as well Gamer Informer . They do not speak for us gamers who paid for this game and got a ****** poor ending. Oh and the ending makes Mass Effect 1 and 2 as well 3's story completely pointless . what point is there in saving the krogans or Geth / Quarians if in the end they all die

[ediskrad327]

Ziguehart wrote...

I think they need to add a ending where Shepard try to find the Dragons Balls and ask Shenlong to destroy the Reapers.
MUCH BETTER ENDING!!!

+1

[Zeju]

Reorte wrote...

LovelyKatzy wrote...

I haven't scanned the whole thread, so forgive me if this question has already been answered...has Bioware said anything yet concerning the general outrage over the endings?

No, and it seems unlikely that they will before it's had worldwide release (which is fair enough).

The final round of realises arnt in Europe? They were out on the 9th?

When are the final releases then?

[Reorte]

Zeju wrote...

Going head to head against BioWare in a race for media representation?

Heavy risk... But the Priiize..

I kid, but seriously, I support this thread, we need publicity notice, this is a good place to keep track of the 'War Assets' we have gained.

It'll be interesting to see if any main-stream non-gaming media picks it up.

[zsom]

"I think this is the sentiment that Christina Norman meant to impugn with her comments at GDC. Gamers are customers, yes. Customers' opinion of a product absolutely matters, and the maker of it absolutely should pay attention.

But the development of a creative work cannot be democratized and its revision to appease a vocal minority would surrender the creative freedom people claim to value in food fights over modding, takedown notices, trademark disputes, whatever. This is an expression of the writers and designers at BioWare, and if you dislike it, OK—there is certainly a lot of legitimate criticism of the outcome. But it is their statement, not yours.

What right does someone have to demand changes to the end of a story they did not write—and as this would, assuredly, be released as downloadable content—expect all of that labor for free?"

I'm sorry guys, but I'm with them on this one. And I don't care if it's a vocal minority or a majority.

[Kaiser Shepard]

No, it's not that simple, Cthulhu.

[Reorte]

Zeju wrote...

Reorte wrote...

LovelyKatzy wrote...

I haven't scanned the whole thread, so forgive me if this question has already been answered...has Bioware said anything yet concerning the general outrage over the endings?

No, and it seems unlikely that they will before it's had worldwide release (which is fair enough).

The final round of realises arnt in Europe? They were out on the 9th?

When are the final releases then?

Not sure, but I think Japan is still to come.

[Kelkimhr]

CerberusSoldier wrote... what point is there in saving the krogans or Geth / Quarians if in the end they all die

None what-so-ever.

[Zeju]

P.S.

-Zeju flies up into the sky and cups his hands, with a small grin-
"You were good, I could sense it! Maybe you could come back some day.. As.. As a better person I hope.. Adios.. Loco"

Kaaa mee... Haaa meeee.......

*Bright blue light hurtles towards BioWare logo and shatters it*.

Epic.

Sorry I'm a bit of a Dragonball fan XD. And everyone else was doing it hehe .

[Drake_1000]

CerberusSoldier wrote...

what right does the games media have to say anything when the majority of them are Bioware supporters and backers especially the clowns at G4 and IGN as well Gamer Informer . They do not speak for us gamers who paid for this game and got a ****** poor ending. Oh and the ending makes Mass Effect 1 and 2 as well 3's story completely pointless . what point is there in saving the krogans or Geth / Quarians if in the end they all die

This.

What's the point to play ME1 and 2 if at the end nothing matter.
I cannot understand someone who never play the previous games have the same ending as me.
I cannot understant why my Renegade Shepard and my Paragon Shepard have the same ending.
Do something Bioware. Quickly.

[PSUHammer]

Punk4Real wrote...

Various sites have begun reporting on the general fan unrest regarding the endings!
We're finally getting some god damn attention, lets keep at it folks! 

- Digital Spy

- Destructoid

- Game Front

- Kotaku

You might want to read those articles before pointing to them as support.  They are basically calling all the petitions and unrest as entitled whining.

From Kotaku:

"What we're seeing is the Battlefield-ization of Mass Effect. A community that spews nonstop hatred of a game it bought at full price and plays religiously.
It's amazing to me how unhappy people choose to be in a leisure pursuit."

[JeffZero]

Kelkimhr wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote... what point is there in saving the krogans or Geth / Quarians if in the end they all die

None what-so-ever.

Except that they probably don't.

[Drake_1000]

Hammer6767 wrote...

Punk4Real wrote...

Various sites have begun reporting on the general fan unrest regarding the endings!
We're finally getting some god damn attention, lets keep at it folks! 

- Digital Spy

- Destructoid

- Game Front

- Kotaku

You might want to read those articles before pointing to them as support.  They are basically calling all the petitions and unrest as entitled whining.

From Kotaku:

"What we're seeing is the Battlefield-ization of Mass Effect. A community that spews nonstop hatred of a game it bought at full price and plays religiously.
It's amazing to me how unhappy people choose to be in a leisure pursuit."

Only for Kotaku. Obviously this guy has not beat the game.

[JeffZero]

jreezy wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

what right does the games media have to say anything when the majority of them are Bioware supporters and backers especially the clowns at G4 and IGN as well Gamer Informer . They do not speak for us gamers who paid for this game and got a ****** poor ending. Oh and the ending makes Mass Effect 1 and 2 as well 3's story completely pointless . what point is there in saving the krogans or Geth / Quarians if in the end they all die

I played a different Mass Effect 3.

Yeah, apparently they all die. The More You Know? Nah, in this case I think we just played a different game.

[SolidBeast]

LovelyKatzy wrote...

I haven't scanned the whole thread, so forgive me if this question has already been answered...has Bioware said anything yet concerning the general outrage over the endings?

The only thing Gamble said is that he isn't prepared to comment yet, but he's reading our thoughts.

[AdmiralCheez]

zsom wrote...

"I think this is the sentiment that Christina Norman meant to impugn with her comments at GDC. Gamers are customers, yes. Customers' opinion of a product absolutely matters, and the maker of it absolutely should pay attention.

But the development of a creative work cannot be democratized and its revision to appease a vocal minority would surrender the creative freedom people claim to value in food fights over modding, takedown notices, trademark disputes, whatever. This is an expression of the writers and designers at BioWare, and if you dislike it, OK—there is certainly a lot of legitimate criticism of the outcome. But it is their statement, not yours.

What right does someone have to demand changes to the end of a story they did not write—and as this would, assuredly, be released as downloadable content—expect all of that labor for free?"

I'm sorry guys, but I'm with them on this one. And I don't care if it's a vocal minority or a majority.

If they sell it as DLC, they can make money off of it.  So sell, I say!  As sleezy as it is, it's better for them PR-wise than doing nothing, and hey, they can make a profit.

The vanilla game would still exist and probably be considered canon.  The DLC would be entirely optional, and only available for people who agree to continue to support Bioware by paying for it (sans pirates).  It wouldn't forsake artistic integrity any more than a special edition/director's cut of a movie.

Besides, look at the Sherlock fiasco.

[Zeju]

We will win this fight; with a mixture of awesome. And Vegeta will stand close to BioWare and turn left.

Anyone wanna play Multiplayer? Gotta give BioWare credit where due, the Multiplayer is amazing .

[philippe willaume]

stysiaq wrote...

I'm at the point of speaking to the Quarians in the campaign.
Will I really rage that much when I see the ending? Because I just can't believe it is as bad as everyone say.
As for now, the game is perfect for me, I just can't picture the moment I'm disappointed with it.

yes you very likely will.

in fact even more so because like most pf us, we couldn't picture a moment I was disappointed with. There is so much stuff that is good like the companion talking about the mission you just did,  the LI showing some sign of affection. the death or survicavla of some of the companions are really well made and  so on.

Phil

Modifié par philippe willaume, 12 mars 2012 - 12:10 .

[Velorn]

Being a crazy Bioware fanboy since Baldur's gate in the late 90s, I've always had faith in every single Bioware product.  After ME3...this is no longer the case. 

THE ENDING SUCKED SO BAD I DON"T WANT TO PLAY ANY GAMES ASSOCIATED WITH BIOWARE NOW!

wtf...seriously..

[FabricatedWookie]

zsom wrote...

"I think this is the sentiment that Christina Norman meant to impugn with her comments at GDC. Gamers are customers, yes. Customers' opinion of a product absolutely matters, and the maker of it absolutely should pay attention.

But the development of a creative work cannot be democratized and its revision to appease a vocal minority would surrender the creative freedom people claim to value in food fights over modding, takedown notices, trademark disputes, whatever. This is an expression of the writers and designers at BioWare, and if you dislike it, OK—there is certainly a lot of legitimate criticism of the outcome. But it is their statement, not yours.

What right does someone have to demand changes to the end of a story they did not write—and as this would, assuredly, be released as downloadable content—expect all of that labor for free?"

I'm sorry guys, but I'm with them on this one. And I don't care if it's a vocal minority or a majority.

I go to a restaurant, I order a meal, the meal is satisfying but the dessert is terrible. I tell the waiter, this dessert is no good, please bring me a different dessert, I will pay for it. The waiter responds "I am sorry sir, but making a new dessert would hinder the creativity of the chef"

Right Trigger punch waiter in the face Left Trigger reason with him about the absurdity of such a claim.