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[jzzabelle]

I mean for ultra-rare status, most of these guns offer little to set them apart from the rest of the common ones.

Javelin (Sniper)
- The only thing going for it is the ability to see through smoke. Sniping through thin-cover is already capable with the Widow. Other than that the charge-up time makes getting headshots harder. Useless weapon IMO

M 77 Paladin (Pistol)
- 4 rounds before you need to reload (without mods). Also only 16 on reserve. This gun is a beast, but the limited ammo really kills it. You REALLY need to make your shots count with this gun or else you lose out on its potential. The damage difference between it and the Carnifex is negligible considering you need to camp beside an ammo box to put up solid DPS. As a backup weapon it is worth while, but if you are using it as a main weapon the Carnifex would be the better choice IMO

M11 Wraith (shotgun)
- I don't use shotguns too often, so I won't comment on this gun. However, the geth shotgun and the Disciple seemed to the best out of the shotties.

Scorpion (Pistol)
- Acts like a mini sticky-grenade. IMO useless except if you want to fool around. Fun gun though.

Sabre, Black Widow, and Talon I don't have yet. Hopefully I will get it in soon. According to others threads the Sabre and Black Widow are the best N7 weapons.

[mysticforce42]

The Talon is like a shotgun in pistol form and is actually heavier than some shotguns. I'm pretty sure Talon 1 is heavier than Disciple III and Spike VI, but will have to double check.

[Lionheartwolf]

i was just doing some research on the N7 stuff and i was thinking the same thing. for weapons that are so rare you would think they wouldnt have such obvious flaws. it seems like the better the weapon gets the bigger the flaws are which kinda steers me back to the straight down the line weapons.

[Makora7]

Don't forget its almost impossible to upgrade N7 weapons due to their rarity. 99% of the time you get a char package thrown in your face (even if you unlocked all appearance options!).

[Vigilance_Pep]

Could someone explain the benefits of the Wraith over the Eviscerator? I just don't see it.

[Jitawa]

The black widow is "ok", but it weighs the same as the widow and does less damage while giving you three shots. That's iffy to me.

I will say the Saber (even at I) seems crazy good. Very accurate, very powerful, and if scoped it doesn't have the super-zoom of the sniper so it's easier to use. I can't even imagine how OP it would be at X.

[Amila]

I have the Sabre and don't like it at all. It's a very slow firing semi Auto Rifle with too much weight. I rather use a Viper Sniper or the excellent Raptor or even a Mattock over it.

The Black Widow i haven't unlocked yet, but i use it in the Singleplayer and it's a great Sniper.

I also have the Scorpion and yes, its a fun weapon for Bronze but overall pretty much useless.

[mysticforce42]

The primary advantage of a Black Widow is for Infiltrators on Gold. In theory (if you can adjust aim fast enough) you can get off all three (or at least two) shots while the Cloak damage bonus applies, which will allow you to take down anything except Banshees, Atlas, Primes, Brutes, and Ravagers in about 1.5 seconds.

Adrenaline Rush also synergizes with Black Widow very well - damage bonus plus instant reload will allow a human soldier to output a monstrous amount of damage in 4 seconds or so.

Gah, can't test it until I actually unlock it though =/

[xSolclaim]

I like the javelin. With the scope like it is, it really means you get a free mod. and seeing exactly who/where you can hit someone through cover or stealthed is awesome. The charge up time i got used to fairly quickly. and the slight loss in damage can be made up by extra capacity, and an extended barrel. It also seems it can penetrate further then a widow can, but maybe thats just me.

[UK Wildcat]

Sabre is probably the premier soldier weapon (excluding the falcon) once upgraded.

[STARSBarry]

M11 Wraith is perhaps the worst shotgun iv ever used, its bassicaly like a subpar claymore with an extra shot, and less damage..... and the same long ass reload time

[Nizzemancer]

Sabre is more like a shotgun than an assault-rifle. Sure it's pretty much an insta-killer for weaker enemies but if you miss the first shot you'll have to wait a while. Tried it one round against geth to test it out, worked ok but I quickly switched that characters loadout to the Mattock.

I prefer the Geth Rifle tbh, accurate bug-bites and a truckload of ammo oh yeah.

[grayrest]

Could someone explain the benefits of the Wraith over the Eviscerator? I just don't see it.

Has higher base damage and is more accurate. I only have an Evisc I and a Wraith I but I can headshot one-shot a Pyro with the Wraith but not with the Evisc. It's likely the Evisc will be better 99% of the time due to the upgrade difference.

[KarmaTheAlligator]

mysticforce42 wrote...

The primary advantage of a Black Widow is for Infiltrators on Gold. In theory (if you can adjust aim fast enough) you can get off all three (or at least two) shots while the Cloak damage bonus applies, which will allow you to take down anything except Banshees, Atlas, Primes, Brutes, and Ravagers in about 1.5 seconds.

Adrenaline Rush also synergizes with Black Widow very well - damage bonus plus instant reload will allow a human soldier to output a monstrous amount of damage in 4 seconds or so.

Gah, can't test it until I actually unlock it though =/

Well, if the SP is anything to go by, you can't fire the three shots fast enough for that.

[eldrjth]

I havent tried the black widow on the soldier yet which I use the falcon for (and works well), but with infiltrators they are extremely powerful. you can shot 3 basic troopers per reload instead of 1 with the widow and not many characters can keep up with you point wise if you play salarian infiltrator with black widow. I find that cloak to energy drain then fire headshots works good since cloak doesnt activate CD and you get to amp up your ED damage as well as a round from the sniper rifle.

[KodiakAsh]

The biggest problem with N7 weapons is that they aren't easily upgraded. The cards are so rare that it's pretty easy to comparison. For example the Paladin is pretty awesome compared to the Carnifex. However the problem is that for example I have a Carnifex V compared to Paladin I which with it's bigger clip and more shots makes the tiny loss in damage not an issue.

I will agree there are a few that are simply outperformed. The Scorpion and Wraith come to mind. Both are pretty terrible compared to golds of the same weapon class.

[aimlessgun]

grayrest wrote...

Could someone explain the benefits of the Wraith over the Eviscerator? I just don't see it.

Has higher base damage and is more accurate. I only have an Evisc I and a Wraith I but I can headshot one-shot a Pyro with the Wraith but not with the Evisc. It's likely the Evisc will be better 99% of the time due to the upgrade difference.

I was under the impression that the Wraith is way, way lighter? At least in single player, that was what made the Wraith awesome: it basically didn't weigh anything. And since most of your damage as a Vanguard comes from powers, weight is really the most important stat on a weapon.

[KodiakAsh]

Spike Thrower weighs pretty light, does more damage, is WAY more accurate, and best of all can be charged up for massive damage. If yer looking for a shotty, this is the one.

[-Severian-]

I had the Saber. Then that stupid store bug hit and reset everything - I'm beginning to doubt I'll ever see it again. Still, while I did have it, it was an absolute wrecking machine.

[mysticforce42]

KarmaTheAlligator wrote...

mysticforce42 wrote...

The primary advantage of a Black Widow is for Infiltrators on Gold. In theory (if you can adjust aim fast enough) you can get off all three (or at least two) shots while the Cloak damage bonus applies, which will allow you to take down anything except Banshees, Atlas, Primes, Brutes, and Ravagers in about 1.5 seconds.

Adrenaline Rush also synergizes with Black Widow very well - damage bonus plus instant reload will allow a human soldier to output a monstrous amount of damage in 4 seconds or so.

Gah, can't test it until I actually unlock it though =/

Well, if the SP is anything to go by, you can't fire the three shots fast enough for that.

On Single you can get it...sometimes, if you immediately rescope and fire.

Picked up a Sabre II.  It's more like a sniper rifle than an assult rifle from the feel.  High damage, staggers every shot, high recovery time (at least 0.5 seconds per shot), and the accuracy is horrible without a scope.  I was standing 3 meters away from a wall and fired 8 shots... the grouping is more like a shotgun than anything else.  Don't think you can use it from the hip - I was on Turian soldier too.  As a long range precision weapon it rocks - but it can't handle close range.

Modifié par mysticforce42, 12 mars 2012 - 03:30 .

[Riceygringo]

Black Widow is a Monster, stat-wise it doesn't look too interesting: Firepower of the Mantis, Firerate of the Viper, and the Weight of the Widow. But there aren't that many things which you can one shot with the Widow but you can't one shot with the Black Widow. The extra shots, however, will allow you to take down enemies such as Geth Pyro/Rocket Trooper on gold without reloading.

[Cloaking_Thane]

Black Widow> all Love that weapon in SP, when I unlock in MP It will be fantastic.

I havent even gotten one ultra rare and I've unlocked well over 30 Spectre packs

[Riceygringo]

Cloaking_Thane wrote...

Black Widow> all Love that weapon in SP, when I unlock in MP It will be fantastic.

I havent even gotten one ultra rare and I've unlocked well over 30 Spectre packs

Got one on my first Spectre Pack:D. But all other unlocks so far have been not as OMG! I just hope that I don't get nailed by the disappearing weapons glitch.

Meanwhile, if you have the Widow, it's a great replacement, me and other Widow Users are usually competing for the top spot.

[Elecbender]

Javelin is meant for shooting through FULL walls at stationary enemies.

There is no way a Widow can do that.

Also it isn't a quick-reflex weapon like the Widow and like I said meant for shooting stationary targets.

Though I can see how this weapon is bad on consoles due to lack of quick-aiming.

Modifié par Elecbender, 12 mars 2012 - 04:05 .

[Ravenmyste]

jzzabelle wrote...

I mean for ultra-rare status, most of these guns offer little to set them apart from the rest of the common ones.

Javelin (Sniper)
- The only thing going for it is the ability to see through smoke. Sniping through thin-cover is already capable with the Widow. Other than that the charge-up time makes getting headshots harder. Useless weapon IMO

M 77 Paladin (Pistol)
- 4 rounds before you need to reload (without mods). Also only 16 on reserve. This gun is a beast, but the limited ammo really kills it. You REALLY need to make your shots count with this gun or else you lose out on its potential. The damage difference between it and the Carnifex is negligible considering you need to camp beside an ammo box to put up solid DPS. As a backup weapon it is worth while, but if you are using it as a main weapon the Carnifex would be the better choice IMO

M11 Wraith (shotgun)
- I don't use shotguns too often, so I won't comment on this gun. However, the geth shotgun and the Disciple seemed to the best out of the shotties.

Scorpion (Pistol)
- Acts like a mini sticky-grenade. IMO useless except if you want to fool around. Fun gun though.

Sabre, Black Widow, and Talon I don't have yet. Hopefully I will get it in soon. According to others threads the Sabre and Black Widow are the best N7 weapons.

lol no its not actually that javelin can see thru smoke with its targeting matrix i know for the fact that black widow/widow, cant see thru walls and i have a level 2 javelin and only snipers can use it if they don't have the less weight talent and it can take down 2 guardians and 2 assault troopers when there standing in front of each other in single file and that's is without out armor piercing rounds

i am proud of my javelin but i seen some weird things as of late once i upgraded it it seem become less powerful or somethingm my javelin 1 was a real heavy sniper rifle and took anyhting down when i was leveling in bronze and same for silver but when i got the upgrade for it it power seem to dive for some reason it wont shoot thru walls when i seem them on the ultra violet targeting matrix and or when it does shoot the game doesn't acknowledge that the target is dead


lol the scorpion i havent gotten yet but i would love to have it my shepo uses  that and the javelin x and scorpion x that puppy is great to use for when your laying down spression fire when you need to   aoe targets down with one shot and it works on phantoms very well funny when you shoot 4 on them and watch them die in   all four shots go off

Modifié par Ravenmyste, 12 mars 2012 - 04:17 .