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#301
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Zaeed was less important than prothy. He only gets good dialogue during fights with merc groups. Bring prothy to thessia and you ll see how that entire mission feels different with him in it.

Watch this video Javik mind melds with an asari, fights with liara, tells the real history of the asari etc. People who didn't get him are missing some good banter between him and liara. He is a better character than EDI, Vega.

Plus you get a gun that has unlimited ammo and instead use the overheat system for ME1. Although i have never run out of ammo with my Avenger V playing as a sentinal.

Modifié par kingsims, 13 mars 2012 - 02:07 .


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i got the collector edition and he's become one of my favorite characters to take with me, you get interesting information on the Proth's and some interesting interaction with other characters and species but he's hardly essential more like a cool bonus. I've got to the half way point yet but it seems as though he won't effect the outcome of the war being that he's more of a soldier like Grunt rather than a scientist. That robodog sucks though

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The main complaint was that the Day 1 DLC was not free. Just because the Day 1 DLC was free for the previous game does not mean that it will be free for the new game. Well, sorry but I got the CE and was promised a new squad member and new mission and I got that. In fact I got my DLC for free just paid the extra $20 for the extra goodies. Now even if you buy the DLC than you are basically paying $10 less than the CE buyers did for their version. So what is the problem? Whiners unite because you have nothing better else to do than whine. Play the game or dont that is your choice but please dont whine about something you dont intend to buy or play. Ungrateful ME fans. Be grateful you got a ME3 instead of them just canceling it altogether.

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lol, so the only way you can criticize the DLC is if you give your money to BW for it first?

How on earth does that make any sense?

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GuyIncognito21 wrote...

lol, so the only way you can criticize the DLC is if you give your money to BW for it first?

How on earth does that make any sense?


How on earth is it going to change anything if you keep complaining about something you cant change?

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Well, theoretically at least, the developers are interested in getting feedback from their customers and the market generally. And if it becomes the case that dissatisfaction (expressed in words and in lost sales) starts making a dent in the bottom line, they'll change their policy.

Either that or they'll just continually drive more and more people away (or toward piracy) and they'll go under.

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Star fury wrote...

I bet you like the endings too.


I bet you like to attack Bioware at any little thing.

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moviebuff3000 wrote...

Well, sorry but I got the CE and was promised a new squad member and new mission and I got that. In fact I got my DLC for free just paid the extra $20 for the extra goodies. Now even if you buy the DLC than you are basically paying $10 less than the CE buyers did for their version. So what is the problem? Whiners unite because you have nothing better else to do than whine.


I hope for you that you realize that your statement makes no sense. Self deception is at work here... And insulting people who have other opinions than you... thank you, you seem to be a nice guy :)

I think that Javik is an important character. He is the only Prothean we see (!!! and they are the base of the story of the entire trilogy !!!), he is real, no VI. That Vega guy has no relevance to the story at all beside from crashing a shuttle, but he made it into the game? And Javik was cut out? If Vega would be the DLC character, things wouldn't be that bad.

Javik could be easily involved as an essential part of the story concerning the crucible, or we could have found him in the ruins on Mars. That would make much more sense and enrich the overall game experience.

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GuyIncognito21 wrote...

Well, theoretically at least, the developers are interested in getting feedback from their customers and the market generally. And if it becomes the case that dissatisfaction (expressed in words and in lost sales) starts making a dent in the bottom line, they'll change their policy.

Either that or they'll just continually drive more and more people away (or toward piracy) and they'll go under.


So you made your case the first several hundred posts and yet you still seem to be complaining.  Send BW and EA a strongly worded letter telling them how you feel and take your business elsewhere. If your not happy with how a company does things than go to some other company that respects people more but dont keep beating a dead horse expecting something more to come out of it. Nobody is stopping you from going to another company but yet you insist on staying here for some unknown reason.

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That pretty much ought to put the subject to rest, in a sane world.

Keep in mind that there's the voice acting to consider too. You can't ask Tricia Helfer to come over, again and again, just to voice a couple lines required for a DLC, though I'm sure the guys at Bioware wouldn't mind having her around. These things have to be done together with the main voice recording, or else not fit in the game nearly as well.

That's one reason why Shepard went solo in the "Arrival" DLC, they couldn't afford to record lines from all voice actors just for this, and that's on big reason why most DLC have to be planned and executed very early on.

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BongoTheBear

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Nobody is stopping you from going to another company but yet you insist on staying here for some unknown reason.


Let people talk, otherwise the idea of a forum is senseless. He clearly wants to communicate and there is nothing wrong about it.

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moviebuff3000 wrote...
Javik could be easily involved as an essential part of the story concerning the crucible, or we could have found him in the ruins on Mars. That would make much more sense and enrich the overall game experience.


Are you saying that Mass Effect 3 isn't a rich game experience without Javik? That it isn't worth the price you paid for it?

IMO Javik is exactly what a DLC character should be. He adds content and interesting dialogue to the game, without fundamentally altering the plot or giving "unfair" advantage to DLC owners. He's pretty much on par with Kasumi for that matter, probably better. Zaeed and Kasumi had very few interactions with the rest of the crew - they did a much better job this time around.

Modifié par Zolt51, 13 mars 2012 - 05:38 .


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Zolt51 wrote...

moviebuff3000 wrote...
Javik could be easily involved as an essential part of the story concerning the crucible, or we could have found him in the ruins on Mars. That would make much more sense and enrich the overall game experience.


Are you saying that Mass Effect 3 isn't a rich game experience without Javik? That it isn't worth the price you paid for it?

IMO Javik is exactly what a DLC character should be. He adds content and interesting dialogue to the game, without fundamentally altering the plot or giving "unfair" advantage to DLC owners. He's pretty much on par with Kasumi for that matter.


Lol. I didnt write that. You posted someone else's quote.

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BongoTheBear wrote...

Nobody is stopping you from going to another company but yet you insist on staying here for some unknown reason.


Let people talk, otherwise the idea of a forum is senseless. He clearly wants to communicate and there is nothing wrong about it.


He communicates only to complain, nothing more and nothing less. He has nothing positive to say or anything useful to add about the game. People in general come to forums to talk about a game and to discuss things about a game, the pros and the cons. When a person does nothing but complain about the game or the DLC in general than that person is probably better off going somewhere else where they can be happy instead of making others miserable by their negative comments.

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Now if there was proof of the Prothean on the disc there should probably be another DLC character on there like there was for Kasumi.

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Hey. He originally was the Catalyst for god sake.

There is plenty of evidence to prove that he was planed to be in game.

The previous games had a perfect ratio of Males/ Females and Biotics/Tech/Soldiers
There are 3(+ Ashley) possible female and 2(+ Kaidan) male squad mates.
And considering that without Kaidan, Liara is the only Biotic on the team.

Stop freaking lying to yourselves men. I'm not even mad at Bioware, I know that wasn't their call. I'm more mad at you guys who try to rationalize this crap.

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Hello all,

Has this been shown yet?' I just found this from the link:

www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2012/03/12/how-bioware-could-find-redemption-using-mass-effect-3/2/

Definitive proof that the "From Ashes" DLC character is on the disc:




Definitive proof that the "From Ashes" DLC character is on the disc:

1. Open Coalesced.bin with this http://wenchy.net/me...alesced-utility

2. Search for this:
MemberValidCID=22, MemberAvailablePlotLabel=IsSelectableProthean,

3. Replace with this:
MemberValidCID=, MemberAvailablePlotLabel=,

That's it. Javik the Prothean is now unlocked. "From Ashes" not required.


Cause if this is real....

#320
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masseffectinglife wrote...

Hello all,

Has this been shown yet?' I just found this from the link:

www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2012/03/12/how-bioware-could-find-redemption-using-mass-effect-3/2/

Definitive proof that the "From Ashes" DLC character is on the disc:




Definitive proof that the "From Ashes" DLC character is on the disc:

1. Open Coalesced.bin with this http://wenchy.net/me...alesced-utility

2. Search for this:
MemberValidCID=22, MemberAvailablePlotLabel=IsSelectableProthean,

3. Replace with this:
MemberValidCID=, MemberAvailablePlotLabel=,

That's it. Javik the Prothean is now unlocked. "From Ashes" not required.


Cause if this is real....


and now a moment of silince! :whistle:

yes its true!

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I thank you for taking the time to make and respond to the thread providing information, but in the eyes of many consumers, you've dropped the ball and can't be trusted.

This bloated mentality, which may or may not be shared by the one who posted this as part of a lengthy response, is exactly why I think Bioware doesn't owe "us" any explanations or responses to perceived controversies. On one hand, there will be the people who believe that silence is a confirmation that Bioware "knew all along and can't be trusted!" and on the other hand there are those whose convictions, for better or for worse, have them believing that any response Bioware makes is pulled from a cavern of lies, meant only to placate those who are angry and tossing their cookies over things.

This Day 1 DLC thing never bothered me because as an avid lifelong gamer I have educated myself on how the industry works. What bothers me most is the import fumble, as that is something I sincerely believe was a broken mechanic that somehow slipped under the radar. You can believe that Bioware is an insidious corporation that decides to be malicious and duplicitous to its fanbase, but that is a silly assertion at most considering that they don't really stand to benefit from doing such things. They are human, and large, and like any large collective of humanity is sometimes prone to errors.

This runs way over the lines of this topic, however, so I will now cease.

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Avid Bioware loyalist, I am one. But I will continue to voice that Bioware made mistakes and handled the backfire poorly

We're paying full retail price for what's advertised as a complete game. That is, all content that's available on the disc itself should be open to access upon purchase. If they want us to start paying extra in order to unlock parts of the disc we already have, then they need to start selling their games at $40 or less.

It's not about entitlement. They are selling a product, and they're expecting us to pay more than the posted price in order to get the complete game. It may be business to you (as well as it appears to EA, Activision and Capcom), but it's an obvious scam to everyone else.



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masseffectinglife wrote...

Hello all,

Has this been shown yet?' I just found this from the link:

www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2012/03/12/how-bioware-could-find-redemption-using-mass-effect-3/2/

Definitive proof that the "From Ashes" DLC character is on the disc:




Definitive proof that the "From Ashes" DLC character is on the disc:

1. Open Coalesced.bin with this http://wenchy.net/me...alesced-utility

2. Search for this:
MemberValidCID=22, MemberAvailablePlotLabel=IsSelectableProthean,

3. Replace with this:
MemberValidCID=, MemberAvailablePlotLabel=,

That's it. Javik the Prothean is now unlocked. "From Ashes" not required.


Cause if this is real....

Did you even read the OP? If you did than do it again.
The Prothean is not is not everything that comes with the DLC and the mission is for sure not on the disc.

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Yeah well, whether or not stuff of it already was on the disk....How about you people think about reducing the price a bit?

I'm sorry but 800 points for a twenty minute mission and some additional dialogue scenes is, imo, just way too expensive.

#325
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Having just completed the Thessia mission, I can tell that the Prothean was fully intended to be in the game but was removed for paid DLC purposes.

Not having the content, the other characters in your immediate squad suddenly know what Protheans look like even though no one in the current cycle has actually scene one (living or otherwise).

Liara, who is probably one of the most knowledgeable experts on the subject of Protheans had no clue what they looked like in Mass Effect 1 or 2 but she instantly recognizes a VI image that appears and states that it's a Prothean (and this happens after looking at other artefacts and having your other squad member tell her how much a deity resembles a Prothean).

Without the content in the game and the discovery of the Prothean character, the final parts of the Thessia mission make absolutely no sense to the series.