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[panamakira]

Hey Mike, can we get an official word on those endings? Even if you guys will not bother with DLC to appease most of us, I'd love to know why you decided to make those endings. Thanks.

Edit: 
Also in regards to the DLC issue it just seems to me the response from the company came too late. People have already formed their opinions and feel distrustful of the company. It doesn't necessarily apply to me because I never found the DLC fiasco to be that big of a deal but whatever. 

Modifié par panamakira, 12 mars 2012 - 06:06 .

[TheBlackBaron]

Funny how, when confronted with evidence that challenges their outlook, the reaction most people have is "YOU LIE!"

I suppose it must be rough to find out what you thought was the smoking gun for your great big crusade turned out to be a not much at all.

[Kingoscar1]

Funny because you can unlock the protheian squad member by editing the a file, so therefore, the dlc was actually on the disk in the first place.

[SLonergan]

TheBlackBaron wrote...

Funny how, when confronted with evidence that challenges their outlook, the reaction most people have is "YOU LIE!"

I suppose it must be rough to find out what you thought was the smoking gun for your great big crusade turned out to be a not much at all.

So you didn't read the thread at all, huh?

Michael Gamble has already stated that From Ashes didn't go into production until after the game was being pressed. This was a flat out lie.

[Gildo2000]

A Forgotten Tome wrote...

Honestly the DLC doesn't bother me that much, other then them stripping something out of the game,kinda morally wrong but eh..

What does bother me (and why I will never buy another Bioware product again.) is the flat out lies peddled by the crap PR team of this company.

This, Finally. You all can argue whether or not we were entitled to free/not free 1st day dlc. The fact of the matter remains blatently obvious; Bioware lied, they milked the consumer, they dont care about the TRUE FAN BASE (this is true because of ending). Theres no problem catering to a larger audience, but when you essentially dumb down a game to reach more people you alienate the fans who liked it for what made it good (see DA:O and DA2). Bioware has turned its back on me, and maybe you, so I'll be the better man and walk away. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. Im off to spend my money with Bethesda and Valve...       

[Fiery Phoenix]

AFAIK the actual mission and its content are not on the disk. What is on the disc is Javik's model itself, but that's about it.

But meh, I don't really care anymore. It was nice of Mike to elaborate, though.

[f1r3storm]

Kingoscar1 wrote...

Funny because you can unlock the protheian squad member by editing the a file, so therefore, the dlc was actually on the disk in the first place.

Did you even read the first post?

[SLonergan]

The presence of Day 1 DLC isn't the issue here. It doesn't matter whether or not you approve of Day 1 DLC, you don't have to buy it.

However, Bioware lied to us about it's presence on the disk, and is now backpedaling and pretending that they didn't say what they said. That's the real problem here. The From Ashes DLC was obviously being done alongside the rest of the game.

[Rorschachinstein]

Dear Bioware. Get a new PR team. Your current one is terrible. And I swear if you ban me for this comment I will be more powerful than you ever imagine(starwars pun intended)................well maybe I'll throw a rock somewhere by your HQ. But a rock filled with terrible hatred(as you can see, I am trying to joke in order to avoid being banned for my very serious first line of my post)

[f1r3storm]

SLonergan wrote...

However, Bioware lied to us about it's presence on the disk, and is now backpedaling and pretending that they didn't say what they said. That's the real problem here. The From Ashes DLC was obviously being done alongside the rest of the game.

It was obviously planned and prepared, as it would be necessary for a seamless integration.

But the main development didn't start after the core game was finished.

Really not that hard to understand if you try hard.

[Rorschachinstein]

f1r3storm wrote...

SLonergan wrote...

However, Bioware lied to us about it's presence on the disk, and is now backpedaling and pretending that they didn't say what they said. That's the real problem here. The From Ashes DLC was obviously being done alongside the rest of the game.

It was obviously planned and prepared, as it would be necessary for a seamless integration.

But the main development didn't start after the core game was finished.

Really not that hard to understand if you try hard.

Why?! In the bloody hell would they plan something for the complete purpose for it NOT to be in the game before the game was actually released? Why? The only real answer is milking the consumer.


Also Bioware. Get a new PR team.

[Zanallen]

Rorschachinstein wrote...

Why?! In the bloody hell would they plan something for the complete purpose for it NOT to be in the game before the game was actually released? Why? The only real answer is milking the consumer.

Also Bioware. Get a new PR team.

Because it was p-lanned from the very beginning to be an extra of the N7 edition?

And it should have stayed that way. N7 exclusive. Screw everyone else.

[Rorschachinstein]

Zanallen wrote...

Rorschachinstein wrote...

Why?!
In the bloody hell would they plan something for the complete purpose
for it NOT to be in the game before the game was actually released? Why?
The only real answer is milking the consumer.

Also Bioware. Get a new PR team.

Because it was p-lanned from the very beginning to be an extra of the N7 edition?

And it should have stayed that way. N7 exclusive. Screw everyone else.

Oh sweet boy. Those comments are the type that bring the hell of /v/. And if it goes bad enough /b/.

Something that bullfilled would be putting nails in Biowares coffin

Modifié par Rorschachinstein, 12 mars 2012 - 07:42 .

[Zanallen]

Rorschachinstein wrote...

Oh sweet boy. Those comments are the type that bring the hell of /v/. And if it goes bad enough /b/.

Something that bullfilled would be putting nails in Biowares coffin

You have a problem with rewarding people who purchase the collector's edition with exclusive content unobtainable to those who buy standard? That's kind of the point of buying the collector's edition. Or is it only acceptable if the exclusive content is physical and has no effect on the game whatsoever?

[Mixxer5]

In the movie it was shown that Javik has also whole set of abilities and so on. He even speaks when command is given. So by paying 10$ we get 20 minutes mission + few war assets? Looks great.

[SLonergan]

f1r3storm wrote...

It was obviously planned and prepared, as it would be necessary for a seamless integration.

But the main development didn't start after the core game was finished.

Really not that hard to understand if you try hard.

The Prothean character is on the disk, along with most of his dialogue, and his entire power tree. The DLC includes the Eden Prime mission, and some more dialogue.

If development didn't start until the game was being pressed, it would be literally impossible for these things to appear on the game...and both Michael Gamble AND Casey Hudson said that development didn't start until after the game was already being pressed. 

Really not that hard to understand if you try hard.

[LGTX]

Bioware really needed to come out with a full official response for people to figure this out? Wowsers...

[Rorschachinstein]

Zanallen wrote...

Rorschachinstein wrote...

Oh sweet boy. Those comments are the type that bring the hell of /v/. And if it goes bad enough /b/.

Something that bullfilled would be putting nails in Biowares coffin

You have a problem with rewarding people who purchase the collector's edition with exclusive content unobtainable to those who buy standard? That's kind of the point of buying the collector's edition. Or is it only acceptable if the exclusive content is physical and has no effect on the game whatsoever?

I have problem for part of the game being axxed from the core and people being forced to pay for the rest. 

DLC Should be: "Here's more cake, hope you're not full"
This "DLC: "Here's the rest of the cake you bought, it's gonna cost you though"

The CE already had the those books and toys, not to mention all the weapons. But punishing people for not buying the CE is a terrible business practice

Mixxer5 wrote...

In the movie it was shown that Javik has
also whole set of abilities and so on. He even speaks when command is
given. So by paying 10$ we get 20 minutes mission + few war assets?
Looks great.

Think about it. You'll have to pay 1/6 of the game to get maybe 4% of the game.

[Mixxer5]

Oh don't worry. I'm definitely not going to pay for it. Once more. Actually after seeing end of ME3. I won't pay EA for anything else.

[greghorvath]

I need a bit of help guys. I have the CE of ME3 and origin says From Ashes is installed and ready to play.

The mission Priority: Eden Prime, however, is not active for me. I am on my fisrt playthrough and I reinstalled the DLC about 10 hours into the game (as there was an error message prior to this). I tried from an earlier savegame (about 5-6 hours in the game) but there still is no active priority.

When is the mission supposed to unlock? Does anyone else have this problem?

Modifié par greghorvath, 12 mars 2012 - 08:36 .

[I Tsunayoshi I]

Dont feel like going through to find the idiots that think that calling someone out on their ignorance, either in defending an action that is no better than piracy, advocating piracy, or are ****ing clueless about what goes into game development, and give then a decent response.

All I will say, and get flamed by the ignorant masses that think that one group calling out EA/Bioware or that a bunch of angry randoms that take every word literally because the only thing that exists is black and white, is that if you are part of the group in here raging and being utterly clueless about what actually goes in when the devs make a game, you should shut up, turn off your computers, and find a new goddamn hobby.

tl:dr - Life ****ing sucks and doesnt give a flying **** if its "fair" to you or not.

[LoneFullmetal]

Hahahaha, basic framework.

This is nothing like the ME2 characters. For one they were just some images and some voice, not a fully functional character like Javik. Secondly they weren't as important to the Mass Effect universe as a damn living Prothean squadmate is. Third one of them was free while the other was $7, but the Prothean is $10 extra ($20 if you bought the collector's edition, but the value of that is debatable).

If the Prothean wasn't completed before certification then he couldn't of been built into the game, if anything his framework should of been added in an update or patch (which is common in EA's games like Battlefield 3 and BFBC2, so I don't see how you guys could have any problems doing that unless there's something else we don't know here on the technical side).

[Crashloop_No]

Zanallen wrote...

Rorschachinstein wrote...

Oh sweet boy. Those comments are the type that bring the hell of /v/. And if it goes bad enough /b/.

Something that bullfilled would be putting nails in Biowares coffin

You have a problem with rewarding people who purchase the collector's edition with exclusive content unobtainable to those who buy standard? That's kind of the point of buying the collector's edition. Or is it only acceptable if the exclusive content is physical and has no effect on the game whatsoever?

A collector edition of a game should never contain ingame things other cannot achieve. Not ever, it should contain things people can display out of game. The day CE starts giving out digital goodies compared to RL goodies then well the whole meaning of a collector edition has failed horribly. When i used to buy collector editions of games I used to gets tuff like a statue, or a picture, or a map or something that others never would have. Some people might find it agreeable that collector ediditon should contain DLC for the game rather proper stuff, but if that is so what is the point with the CE? Why collect something you cannot show off?

[I Tsunayoshi I]

Crashloop_No wrote...

Zanallen wrote...

Rorschachinstein wrote...

Oh sweet boy. Those comments are the type that bring the hell of /v/. And if it goes bad enough /b/.

Something that bullfilled would be putting nails in Biowares coffin

You have a problem with rewarding people who purchase the collector's edition with exclusive content unobtainable to those who buy standard? That's kind of the point of buying the collector's edition. Or is it only acceptable if the exclusive content is physical and has no effect on the game whatsoever?

A collector edition of a game should never contain ingame things other cannot achieve. Not ever, it should contain things people can display out of game. The day CE starts giving out digital goodies compared to RL goodies then well the whole meaning of a collector edition has failed horribly. When i used to buy collector editions of games I used to gets tuff like a statue, or a picture, or a map or something that others never would have. Some people might find it agreeable that collector ediditon should contain DLC for the game rather proper stuff, but if that is so what is the point with the CE? Why collect something you cannot show off?

CE was getting robo-mutt, 4 N7 Weapons, and the Hoodie along with a few other things. CE was still getting its moneys worth before the price for From Ashes was let out.

[jtsherrard]

Originally, "from ashes " was a collectors edition exclusive. If they never would have put it out for non CE download, would you still be ranting?