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[SolidisusSnake1]

acidproof2 wrote...

It's difficult because when you say "ain't gonna buy nothing no more!" you can come off like a petulant child. But speaking with one's wallet is probably the simplest and most effective way of saying that your displeased with a particular product or service. For instance: love DA:O, purchased all DLC and sunk close to 400 hours into it (whether or not that's healthy: no, probably not). DA2: played twice, no DLC.
To be honest, my decision to purchase another Bioware will not be predicated on whether or not they "fix" the endings, but I doubt very much it will be an automatic pre-order for me.

I totally do sound like a "petulant child", I heard a lot of people say what I'm saying now after DAII and I coudnt believe them, I called them childish and stupid for saying such a thing. I even stated that DA and ME were made by two seperate teams so how could you punish one for the others mistake. But now here I am saying something I thought I would never say. The endings prove BioWare doesnt understand its customers anymore so I cannot support their products.

[BrotherFluffy]

badmojo88 wrote...

ill give blizzard and cryptic my money, not bioware, hell bliz and crypt are happy as can be over this fubar bioware has going, both companies are preparing their own series of player lures back to their products, and to be fair neither of them has ever messed things up THIS bad.

I dunno, WoW's ending to 4.3 was pretty bad....

[Chuvvy]

squid25 wrote...

Adamantium93 wrote...

I'll never give another cent to Bioware or EA

This is the reason they will listen. If Bio/EA wish to continue making money off this game (through DLC) then they will have to make a change. Even if they charge for a "better ending" DLC, you can imagine that alone would generate enough money for them to consider it.

And considering it's the "vocal minority" that is most likely to buy DLC, it'd make sense to try and appeal to them.

[Thornquist]

Jesus, Its not like they intended to ****** us off.

The only thing I've learned from this is how INSANELY good Bioware have been in creating a universe and characters I care about.

The fact that the ending was so awful makes it so much worse, but I will not ignore the great times I've had playing this franchise.


If they dont fix the ending though, Mass Effect really is dead for me, I see no reason to return to a franchise that literally destroyed almost all the things I found fascinating about it.

But other Bioware products? Sure, I'll check them out.

[ChuckNorris18]

I wouldnt buy any dlc or any other bioware games.

Modifié par ChuckNorris18, 12 mars 2012 - 12:19 .

[xAGATHONx]

Then the company that I have put so many hours and dollars into will no longer have either of those. Boo Bioware...why did you sell your souls to EA!? Way to ruin an amazing trilogy in a brief 5 minutes...sad day

[mpgeist]

Bioware already burned me with DAII and SWTOR recently. I didn't agree with everything they did in Mass Effect 2, but the heart was still there and heck I even enjoyed most of 3 until the ending. I've been a faithful fan ever since KOTOR and this terrible conclusion has finally broke my will to play any more of their games. I've been debating on whether to take down my Mass Effect posters and Lithos from the first two games. I guess I'll keep them up to remember the good times...(sigh). I miss the time I thought multiplayer was the worst thing to happen to Mass Effect.

[paynesgrey]

I don't think refusing to fix things will break bioware. But it'll mean if I ever buy a Bioware or EA title again, it'll be *despite* the company, not *because of* the company. And even then, I'll not be pre-ordering, no matter what the beloved franchise, no matter what the bonuses. And I'll be checking the names on the Dev Team. Some are storyline/customer respect poison as far as I'm concerned now. Finally, any potential purchase of any bioware/EA title will be after there are enough player reviews for me to know it's not a case of "Oh, God, they ME3'ed another great game!"

[SandTrout]

Der Estr Bune wrote...
Well, no. It is complete. The story technically has an end, even if you don't like it. To that extent, they did what they said they would.

They said that it would provide closure. It did not.
They said that it would have significantly different endings. It did not.
They said that our choices throughout the game would affect the ending. They did not.

If you're this upset that the game itself did not mirror developer statements... Well, welcome to the world. This must be your first gaming experience, because that sort of thing happens everywhere.

And out come the ad hominem attacks claiming that I'm simply inexperience with gaming. I am not.

I understand the difference of falling short of the marketing hype and blatently lying about the game being published. At best, these were intentional deceptions about what they were doing with the game and the story. We were told that the game would provide things that the developers must have known full-well would not be in the game.

[MaxShine]

If they do not change it, then galaxy's heros are all dead and someone pissed on their graves.

[matty_s]

Idk...I dont expect them to fix the ending at all; at this point however ive been burned by DA2 and the ending of this game was just dissapointing...I dont really see myself running out to buy the next bioware title regardless of what dlc they push out.

[Bearcavalryman]

if player choice has no real effect on the outcome of the story then why buy dlc to add to it, it will only end in three possible ways regardless. the consequences of these poor endings is that the story leading to them becomes pointless so why bother remaining devoted to the series and purchase additional content or merchandise for it

[badmojo88]

BrotherFluffy wrote...

badmojo88 wrote...

ill give blizzard and cryptic my money, not bioware, hell bliz and crypt are happy as can be over this fubar bioware has going, both companies are preparing their own series of player lures back to their products, and to be fair neither of them has ever messed things up THIS bad.

I dunno, WoW's ending to 4.3 was pretty bad....

perhaps but bioware has almost 50% of their fanbase blowing up at them currently and the numbers have been climbing rapidly, frankly this mess up is bringing it to a whole new level. The only thing that comes close to this in the gamming communitiy would be when square turned final fantasy into an mmo and alot of the fans turned from them, but even that they recovered from, mainly due to all FF games being seperate. Mass Effect is 1/3rd of bio's current market standing, all 3 games tied into one another, one goes down they all go down. Seems to me the ships on fire.

[QwertyMusicMan]

I'll support Bioware in whatever they do... so long as they actually acknowledge that our criticisms are valid, and try to do something about it, even if they just make a freaking 10-page-book to describe what happens.

[thesnake777]

OP I was also one of the people that enjoyed DAII (I'm a console gamer) but this? honestly I felt this went too far and I have supported almost even decision Bioware has made...Depending on Bioware's stance will be my reaction...they fix the endings no foul...and by fix I mean some tangible fixes, files fixed and altered. Not a statement explaining the endings....If they say tough luck guys ....no more...I'm out....

Modifié par thesnake777, 12 mars 2012 - 12:24 .

[BrotherFluffy]

badmojo88 wrote...

BrotherFluffy wrote...

badmojo88 wrote...

ill give blizzard and cryptic my money, not bioware, hell bliz and crypt are happy as can be over this fubar bioware has going, both companies are preparing their own series of player lures back to their products, and to be fair neither of them has ever messed things up THIS bad.

I dunno, WoW's ending to 4.3 was pretty bad....

perhaps but bioware has almost 50% of their fanbase blowing up at them currently and the numbers have been climbing rapidly, frankly this mess up is bringing it to a whole new level. The only thing that comes close to this in the gamming communitiy would be when square turned final fantasy into an mmo and alot of the fans turned from them, but even that they recovered from, mainly due to all FF games being seperate. Mass Effect is 1/3rd of bio's current market standing, all 3 games tied into one another, one goes down they all go down. Seems to me the ships on fire.

Oh, I totally agree.  4.3, as generally cliched and stupid as it was, had little to no effect on the universe at large and no direct impact on the actual gameplay.  The star-kid single-handedly murdered the Mass Effect series.  

[utaker1988]

I know I sure as heck won't buy any dlc that doesn't affect the endings, why bother? Doesn't matter what you do in it, you will get the same crappy ending. Just as I want my Shep dead, I wouldn't buy a "fix it" ending dlc where the only choice is that she lives. I will control what I want in my game of "choices" by buying or not buying. I am reluctant to ever trust BW on any press or interviews they give on any future games. I will be forever reminded on the promises made with ME3 and how that failed. Sorry...fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

[Der Estr Bune]

SandTrout wrote...

They said that it would provide closure. It did not.

You have an answer for what happened to the Reapers, Shepard, and your team. It's a plothole-filled answer, but it is an answer.

They said that it would have significantly different endings. It did not.

I can grant this, but technically they are different endings in terms of affect. You can hardly disagree that merging the DNA of all being in the universe isn't significantly different than you destroying all synthetic life.

They said that our choices throughout the game would affect the ending. They did not.

They absolutely did, insofar as there are some 18 minutely-different endings, and your choices throughout the series affected your War Assets (and thus which ending you get).

And out come the ad hominem attacks claiming that I'm simply inexperience with gaming. I am not.

I understand the difference of falling short of the marketing hype and blatently lying about the game being published. At best, these were intentional deceptions about what they were doing with the game and the story. We were told that the game would provide things that the developers must have known full-well would not be in the game.

I think you're reaching way too far by thinking this was a malicious thing. It's far more likely that the developers who made the statements were either A) Out of touch with the game itself, or sincere in their appreciation of the endings. I don't know why you think that the entire team suddenly decided that they want to deceive the entire fanbase. I get that you're mad, but that really just sounds like you're letting your emotions get the best of you.

Modifié par Der Estr Bune, 12 mars 2012 - 12:29 .

[Drake_1000]

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[Gromphadelic]

Ratham wrote...

Then they ruined what could have been this generation's Star Wars and upset a large group of people...?

Hell I'd love ME movies.. conventions... figures.. posters... more books...

exactly my thoughts, it definately felt like the great science fiction story of the 21st century.

the atmosphere of that universe was so fresh, all the different races and cultures and the setting at least in my opinion was so unique.  mass effect wasn't just about space fights, heroism and gigantic conflicts. more importantly it was about the characters and their relationships.

dammit, how often did i just check the different levels of the citadel and the normandy between missions just not to miss out on any conversations or encounters.

it added romance and sexyness to the whole sci-fi theme to an extend we don't find anywhere in star wars or star trek, and that without being cheap or being reduced to some sci-fi-twilight crap.

and with just 5 sloppy minutes they take it all away and apart from denying shep and his crew a worthy ending they also destroy or at least severely shatter this great universe they created:alien:

[Sylvianus]

Well, if they don't change, I would find that sad, because they worked hard on this game, and it's a shame that a great game like that can't be praised as it should because of the endings. The best ending isn't good enough, because it's feels like ' wait, i did everything in this series for this result ? "

I don't think that's a good thing.. There should be an option, hard to have, but not impossible. I should have finished M3 in 40 hours, finally 55 hours, because I wanted the best ending for my shep. and what I saw, wasn't at all something I desserved for my perfect job. I was bitter..

However, personally, the game is so great that if they don't change, I won't be pissed off.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 12 mars 2012 - 12:30 .

[hurricaneez2]

I have no idea what Bioware was thinking here. If your going to claim that player choice effects the ending and you claim to have muiltiple endings why cant you make at least 1 ending happy? After everything my Shep has been thru he deserves to save the universe and sit on a beach next to Miranda for the rest of his life.

Bottomline...I think the writers got too cute by half and couldnt bring themselves to just give us a straightforward ending.

Modifié par hurricaneez2, 12 mars 2012 - 12:32 .

[Almostfaceman]

I had a bad experience with a Ford I once owned. So, I don't buy any more Ford's. Bioware obviously is not obligated to do anything, but then again neither am I obligated to buy any more of their product - same goes for EA.

I won't buy any more of their products.

[darkshadow136]

If they don't change the endings. I will no longer buy anything from Bioware. They don't give me a satisfying product, they don't get my money. If a lot of people do the same thing, it will hurt their bottom line, and then they will either continue to lose money or they will fix the endings to ME3.

if you want your voice heard louder got to my blog which I have a link too in my Sig , click on my ME3 review and click on the links to my polls.

1. would you Boycott Bioware if they don't fix the endings
2. do you believe Multiplayer should have no impact on the single player campaign
3. Facebook Campaign demand better endings for ME3

[Rrezz]

meh, I'm fine with the way it ended. its not the ending I wanted, but hey, you can't always get what you want. I might buy the DLCs, depending on what it is. I'm already doing a second play through, so you know, I'm not as heart broken as most.